Star Trek The Motion Picture Director's Edition 4K UHD/DLX (1979)

[david_blu]

Originally Posted by Croweyes1121

I just got an email from Bullmoose saying that the street dates had changed with no new date. Any word anywhere else of a delay?

Anymore on this, hopefully Paramount are reviewing the sets and making sure the Theatrical has its rightful place in the single edition DE release and appeasing us fans but I doubt it.

[Brian81]

noticed I can't preorder the UK set now

[david_blu]

Originally Posted by Brian81

noticed I can't preorder the UK set now

hmm only the deluxe set has had the pre order removed, the DE 4k and Blu seem to be ok.

I dont have an email from Amazon UK yet saying my pre order has been cancelled.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by JohnCarpenterLives

I'm mostly worried about it getting damaged en route. There aren't any UK retailers that I know of that have awesome packaging.

Deff has outstanding packaging but it will cost you, and they won't do an exchange for scratched discs. I found this out the hard way.

[Number_6]

Originally Posted by Croweyes1121

I just got an email from Bullmoose saying that the street dates had changed with no new date. Any word anywhere else of a delay?

Since I also ordered the Complete Adventure deluxe box, the email said that was being delayed by a day, now being released on September 7th.

Since the standard DE now has no new date, I wouldn't be surprised if the box set get's pushed back further.

[mar3o]

Honestly, I'm more excited for the special longer version than the director's cut now, thanks to the issues with the cgi, which is why I'm so frustrated that I have to spend $75 to get it. But it's a shame that the SLV will always be stuck with that borked space dock "fix" from the theatrical version. There's no reason Paramount couldn't have gotten this whole thing right. They've certainly had enough time to work on it all.

[pjl69]

To me Amazon UK claims the deluxe edition is "temporarily out of stock".

In the product description the claim that its a 5-disc set is back.

Luckily I already pre-ordered the set. Haven't got any email from Amazon regarding my order.

[mar3o]

They said they fixed the soundstage shot for the special longer version but if it's anything like the fixes for the spacedock shot in the theatrical cut and the lounge scene in the director's cut, I can't wait to see what they did with it.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by mar3o

Honestly, I'm more excited for the special longer version than the director's cut now, thanks to the issues with the cgi, which is why I'm so frustrated that I have to spend $75 to get it. But it's a shame that the SLV will always be stuck with that borked space dock "fix" from the theatrical version. There's no reason Paramount couldn't have gotten this whole thing right. They've certainly had enough time to work on it all.

Do you have information that confirms that? I know that the more cynical amongst us, me especially, have literally said that we don't think the SLV will be anything other than the extra scenes bolted on to the extant theatrical 4K transfer...but until we've seen it we won't know for sure. I will be buying it anyway

[RegressiveScan]

Yes, and “the extant 4K theatrical transfer” includes a borked attempt at a fix for the spacedock departure… which one hopes has been cleaned up (though I highly doubt it).

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by RegressiveScan

Yes, and “the extant 4K theatrical transfer” includes a borked attempt at a fix for the spacedock departure… which one hopes has been cleaned up (though I highly doubt it).

I understood that. I read his post. That's literally what I'm referring to above.

[AllOuttaBubbleGum]

Originally Posted by JohnCarpenterLives

For me, if I'm being honest, the most distracting thing about the new DE is that hero shot of V'ger. It's in the trailer. It's the most obvious piece of CGI in the movie and the colors seem so out of place. Crazy neon.
I say that having seen the Fathom Event for it. I rewatched some parts on Paramount+ but the app messes with the frame rate or something. It's too smooth.

I also think the opening credits make a terrible first impression and scream chintziness from the get-go, priming the viewer to be on the lookout for more inferior work. They demean the film. Intended as temporary or not, the theatricals' white on black were understated and elegant; the sign of a classy, confident film that didn't need to wear it on its sleeve. I didn't like the gold, fade-in style back in '01, and its flaws have only been magnified in the new, even mo' glinty rendering. I think they're the most egregious flaw in the new version, followed closely by the ungainly ascension of V'ger, a pointless shock wave money shot that takes the beautifully fluid blooming that precedes the re-emergence of the Enterprise--the culmination of the film--and gives it an awful, clumsy hitching.


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[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by AllOuttaBubbleGum

I also think the opening credits make a terrible first impression and scream chintziness from the get-go, priming the viewer to be on the lookout for more inferior work. They demean the film. Intended as temporary or not, the theatricals' white on black were understated and elegant; the sign of a classy, confident film that didn't need to wear it on its sleeve. I didn't like the gold, fade-in style back in '01, and its flaws have only been magnified in the new, even mo' glinty rendering. I think they're the most egregious flaw in the new version, followed closely by the ungainly ascension of V'ger, a pointless shock wave money shot that takes the beautifully fluid blooming that precedes the re-emergence of the Enterprise and gives it an awful, ungainly hitching; it's the tree root on the walking path to trip over.

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Those spangly titles are as disco as McCoy's beard/medallion/chest hair combo. If they'd been done like that at the time or even in 2001 then it'd be part of the charm, but adding them in now makes it look really tacky.

[Deciazulado]

Originally Posted by Jar Jar Stinks

Amazon had it listed as a 5-disc set in the Product Description:

This 5-disc set

Originally Posted by pjl69

To me Amazon UK claims the deluxe edition is "temporarily out of stock".

In the product description the claim that its a 5-disc set is back.

Luckily I already pre-ordered the set. Haven't got any email from Amazon regarding my order.

Well the Amazon listing is showing that ^^ back in, but it's become inactive

[Show spoiler] or limited run ran out of stock

, tho still active in Zavvi for example:

Star Trek: The Motion Picture Director's Edition Complete Adventure 4K Blu-ray

[AllOuttaBubbleGum]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Those spangly titles are as disco as McCoy's beard/medallion/chest hair combo. If they'd been done like that at the time or even in 2001 then it'd be part of the charm, but adding them in now makes it look really tacky.

Ha, yes. Now those credits are, like, "Damn it, Bones, we don't need them!"

[groovyalex391]

Those black and white title cards were placeholders. The film as it was released in 1979 was unfinished. They delivered the film prints to the premiere and they were still wet from being scanned, it was so rushed by the end. Wise never got to finetune the editing and the VFX team never got to do all they wanted. Aside from two changes though, this is so much superior to the original cut. It flows and feels much better.

The two changes I dislike are: 1) showing V'ger. It was more alien and awe inspiring when we only saw it in parts, so big it couldn't fit on screen. But showing it does also make the V'ger flyover a bit more understandable geography wise. 2) Removing Kirk saying "viewer off" a second time. That was a really great moment in the original, having to repeat his order highlighted that his leadership skills were rusty and everyone was so shaken up they needed to be told twice.

[AllOuttaBubbleGum]

Originally Posted by groovyalex391

Those black and white title cards were placeholders. The film as it was released in 1979 was unfinished. They delivered the film prints to the premiere and they were still wet from being scanned, it was so rushed by the end. Wise never got to finetune the editing and the VFX team never got to do all they wanted.

Had everyone the time and resources, would love to have seen the credits Wise would've signed off on back in the day. It remains an accidental irony of their minimalism that the temp credits work so well, maybe because they imply that the film proper will do all the heavy lifting on visuals.



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[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by AllOuttaBubbleGum

Had everyone the time and resources, would love to have seen the credits Wise would've signed off on back in the day. It remains an accidental irony of their minimalism that the temp credits work so well, maybe because they imply that the film proper will do all the heavy lifting on visuals.



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I don't get why Trek needs elaborate credits anyway. Several of the other movies make do with text against a black background or a starfield and I don't think ill of the movie that follows. Sometimes less really is more.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

Well the Amazon listing is showing that ^^ back in, but it's become inactive

[Show spoiler] or limited run ran out of stock

, tho still active in Zavvi for example:

Star Trek: The Motion Picture Director's Edition Complete Adventure 4K Blu-ray

Dang. Maybe this really is as limited as Fein was saying? Though stuff sometimes dips in and out these days prior to release.

[Croweyes1121]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Dang. Maybe this really is as limited as Fein was saying? Though stuff sometimes dips in and out these days prior to release.

FWIW, my individuals from Bullmoose say they’re delayed with no new date, so I don’t think this issue is exclusively about the Complete Adventure.

…though with all of the headaches that Paramount had with Indiana Jones and even the last ST box having enough stock, I REALLY don’t understand the timing of these announcements if there are supply issues of any kind. Just hold off on the dang announcement until you HAVE the freakin’ discs. Otherwise you’re just begging for issues.