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Old 07-28-2022, 08:50 AM   #1
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Unfortunately, no subtitles! Olive, do something next time!
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Old 07-28-2022, 09:09 AM   #2
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Unfortunately, no subtitles! Olive, do something next time!
I'm patiently waiting for a UK Eureka release exactly because of that. (Not that there has been an official announcement or a hint, by the way. It's just that Eureka has released a lot of Billy Wilder movies in the UK, so...)
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Old 07-28-2022, 12:16 PM   #3
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I'm patiently waiting for a UK Eureka release exactly because of that. (Not that there has been an official announcement or a hint, by the way. It's just that Eureka has released a lot of Billy Wilder movies in the UK, so...)
I'm holding out on it as well for that same reason. However, last year I finally broke down and picked up Olive's release of John Ford's "The Sun Shines Bright", which I had held off as well because of the lack of subtitles. Then, a couple of months later, Eureka went and released a superior version with subs. So, maybe I need to take one for the team with "Kiss Me, Stupid" and see if lightening strikes twice
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Old 07-28-2022, 01:23 PM   #4
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I generally love Kim Novak. Her four in a row streak of amazing performances from 1958 to 1960 ("Bell Book and Candle", "Vertigo", "Middle of the Night" and "Strangers When We Meet") remain absolute knockouts for me. But I've never found her to be quite right in "Kiss Me Stupid". The actress's comedy instincts were somewhat problematic. She needed just the right sympathetic director to coax an effective comic performance from her. Richard Quine elicited brilliant work from Novak in "Bell Book and Candle"; and she registered quite appealingly in Britisher Terence Young's "The Amorous Adventures of Moll Flanders". But Wilder - for all his lauded skill with actors in comedies - seemed unable to mine much from her in "Kiss me Stupid". She's beautiful, of course. Always ranked among the all-time screen beauties. But that loveliness was always apparent no matter who directed her.
Everything about the Walston and Novak roles seems to suggest that Jack Lemmon and Shirley MacLaine should have played them. What naturals they'd have been at nailing both the funny and sympathetic sides of these characters. And both pretty much at the height of their box office appeal.
As someone indicated above, Dean Martin's work in the picture is spot on. And Felicia Farr (the real-life Mrs. Lemmon) is good too. But I can't help thinking that a Lemmon/MacLaine/Martin "Kiss Me Stupid" would have not just played infinitely better - but that it would have been a big box-office hit too. Sadly it seems that just wasn't meant to be.
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I'm holding out on it as well for that same reason. However, last year I finally broke down and picked up Olive's release of John Ford's "The Sun Shines Bright", which I had held off as well because of the lack of subtitles. Then, a couple of months later, Eureka went and released a superior version with subs. So, maybe I need to take one for the team with "Kiss Me, Stupid" and see if lightening strikes twice
Nothing dramatic as your experience, but I had to double or triple-dip Bullfighter and the Lady (Indicator), Cloak and Dagger (Eureka), Force of Evil (Arrow), High Noon (Eureka), Invasion of the Body Snatchers (BFI), Johnny Guitar (Eureka), Secret Beyond the Door (Arrow), Twilight's Last Gleaming (Eureka) and of course, The Sun Shines Bright. I also had a close call with One of Our Aircraft is Missing (BFI) and Rio Grande (Eureka).

Well, I still hope there will be another superior, subtitled release of Body and Soul, Caught, Letter from an Unknown Woman, Men on War, Pursued, etc... but at this point, I can't imagine myself buying another no-sub release from Olive.
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Old 07-28-2022, 06:35 PM   #6
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Nothing dramatic as your experience, but I had to double or triple-dip Bullfighter and the Lady (Indicator), Cloak and Dagger (Eureka), Force of Evil (Arrow), High Noon (Eureka), Invasion of the Body Snatchers (BFI), Johnny Guitar (Eureka), Secret Beyond the Door (Arrow), Twilight's Last Gleaming (Eureka) and of course, The Sun Shines Bright. I also had a close call with One of Our Aircraft is Missing (BFI) and Rio Grande (Eureka).

Well, I still hope there will be another superior, subtitled release of Body and Soul, Caught, Letter from an Unknown Woman, Men on War, Pursued, etc... but at this point, I can't imagine myself buying another no-sub release from Olive.
Letter From An Unknown Woman has an Olive Signature release that not only looks better, but has subs.
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Letter From An Unknown Woman has an Olive Signature release that not only looks better, but has subs.
I'm painfully aware of that, of course, but can't stand their ugly yellow subtitling hung too high in a 4:3 frame.



I got burnt once with High Noon Signature release.

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I'm painfully aware of that, of course, but can't stand their ugly yellow subtitling hung too high in a 4:3 frame.
Someone else posted an elegantly simple solution to the yellow problem in a different thread.

Turn down the color on your TV to zero. Your subtitles are now white.
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