Michael Mann on Blu-ray

[Rayjg]

I just wish the Aussie DVD included the alternate ending from the laserdisc release. I wonder if the film elements are lost for that.

[James Luckard]

Originally Posted by Rayjg

I just wish the Aussie DVD included the alternate ending from the laserdisc release. I wonder if the film elements are lost for that.

For The Keep? I think I saw that alternate ending on YouTube, so at least it's out there.

I believe KL said they were offered the film as a DVD-only release in the US, but turned it down.

There's no HD master, and Michael Mann apparently refuses to allow one to be created unless they allow him to rework the film.

[Rayjg]

Originally Posted by James Luckard

For The Keep? I think I saw that alternate ending on YouTube, so at least it's out there.

I believe KL said they were offered the film as a DVD-only release in the US, but turned it down.

There's no HD master, and Michael Mann apparently refuses to allow one to be created unless they allow him to rework the film.

Yup, I wonder how that ended up on the laserdisc? Did Paramount allow Mann to make a quick director's cut or was it a similar situation to Blade Runner where an alternate version was used accidentally and no one knew what it was.

[James Luckard]

Originally Posted by Rayjg

Yup, I wonder how that ended up on the laserdisc? Did Paramount allow Mann to make a quick director's cut or was it a similar situation to Blade Runner where an alternate version was used accidentally and no one knew what it was.

Ah,so the alternate ending wasn't a bonus feature on the laserdisc? The laserdisc contained an entire alternate cut of the film, with the alternate ending in the body of the film? Interesting.

What's the difference between the theatrical ending and the laserdisc ending.

I have an old unofficial DVD that I always assumed was ripped from the laserdisc.

I also have the Aussie DVD, and I could have sworn they had the same ending.

How big a difference are we talking?

I'm not super familiar with the various versions of the film. I've only seen it twice, on those 2 DVDs.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by James Luckard

Ah,so the alternate ending wasn't a bonus feature on the laserdisc? The laserdisc contained an entire alternate cut of the film, with the alternate ending in the body of the film? Interesting.

What's the difference between the theatrical ending and the laserdisc ending.

I own The Keep on laserdisc and I do not recall there being any alternate cut or alternate ending. It was a pretty bare bones release. I own this laserdisc, to be exact:

TheKeepLaserdisc.jpg

The laserdisc database website does not list anything about alternate cuts or alternate endings, either:

https://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/23041...63-WS/Keep-The

[Rayjg]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I own The Keep on laserdisc and I do not recall there being any alternate cut or alternate ending. It was a pretty bare bones release. I own this laserdisc, to be exact:

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The laserdisc database website does not list anything about alternate cuts or alternate endings, either:

https://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/23041...63-WS/Keep-The

I wonder where the alternate ending came from then? A TV cut maybe?

[drush9999]

Originally Posted by Rayjg

I wonder where the alternate ending came from then? A TV cut maybe?

Yeah it was from a TV cut. There was a bootleg DVD which created an extended version of the film and had that ending as an extra. The quality was really bad though.

[Rayjg]

Originally Posted by James Luckard

Ah,so the alternate ending wasn't a bonus feature on the laserdisc? The laserdisc contained an entire alternate cut of the film, with the alternate ending in the body of the film? Interesting.

What's the difference between the theatrical ending and the laserdisc ending.

I have an old unofficial DVD that I always assumed was ripped from the laserdisc.

I also have the Aussie DVD, and I could have sworn they had the same ending.

How big a difference are we talking?

I'm not super familiar with the various versions of the film. I've only seen it twice, on those 2 DVDs.

The theatrical/DVD ending freezes on a shot of Eva after Glaeken is sucked into the keep. In the alternate ending we see Glaeken floating down to the bottom of the keep and then Eva re-enters and descends down to him where she finds him alive. Tangerine Dream’s version of The Walking in the Air plays over Glaeken’s descent.