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[bigzgod]

Originally Posted by Bobo1313

Rent a Girlfriend for romance fans.

Oh boy

[SpiritMeAway]

I shifted from buying physical superhero comics to reading on Marvel Unlimited a few years ago because I couldn't handle how much physical space my comics collection was taking up. The one and only instance of me giving up physical media for what is more or less streaming content, but it was getting ridiculous and is a much better value proposition in this specific instance. Equally ridiculous is the idea that "politics inserted into comics" is some new phenomenon. It's been there since the earliest days of American comics, just like it's in all media if you look for it. I find "keep politics out of comics" to be the refrain of those that simply don't like the politics of inclusivity that have led to modern superhero comics having the audacity to occasionally include a queer or BIPOC character (almost always quickly backtracked or retconned as an AU version).

The space I've saved by not buying comics is of course quickly being occupied by piles and piles of manga, graphic novels, and blurays, but so it goes. I do think that superhero comics retread the same tired plots over and over again and have very low stakes since reversion to the status quo is constant, whereas the constant inventiveness of manga has similarly led to it occupying more and more of my media time.

[Bobo1313]

Originally Posted by bigzgod

Oh boy

[Show spoiler]

I never read or watched it. My niece is a big fan of the manga and told me it was romance, I guess she lied to me lol.

Originally Posted by SpiritMeAway

I do think that superhero comics retread the same tired plots over and over again and have very low stakes since reversion to the status quo is constant, whereas the constant inventiveness of manga has similarly led to it occupying more and more of my media time.

They'll figure it out. I'm not as blackpilled on American comics as others, they're just in a funk at the moment. The medium will never fully go away imo.

[SteamfloggerBoss]

Originally Posted by Bobo1313

I never read or watched it. My niece is a big fan of the manga and told me it was romance, I guess she lied to me lol.

That's definitely the genre it's just...one of the worst entries in the genre I can recall and I've watched a lot of romcoms.

[neoz]

Here is a good romance manga lol.

[Lum]

The distribution model hurt American comics most. Let me buy comics at the supermarket or places I have to visit anyway, not dally miles away for some specialty shop.

[kk1]

Originally Posted by Lum

The distribution model hurt American comics most. Let me buy comics at the supermarket or places I have to visit anyway, not dally miles away for some specialty shop.

Which skewed fandom to older collectors who could drive to such places and thus pandering to that same crowd which lead to even fewer kids being interested.

[GeoffOliver]

Originally Posted by kk1

Which skewed fandom to older collectors who could drive to such places and thus pandering to that same crowd which lead to even fewer kids being interested.

Yeah even when I was a kid in the early 2000s, it was a treat to find any comic anywhere. The easiest comics available to me were in fact manga with Shonen Jump being available on grocery store shelves, and some manga (mostly from Viz and Tokyopop) was even available at Scholastic book fairs and through the Scholastic book club catalogs. The only American comics included in the latter were Bone and the Bart Simpson comics IIRC. We also had Garfield and Peanuts at the library but that's pretty much it.

[Girls With Guns]

When I was in college back in 1981, my roommate at the fraternity house was a huge comic book fan, he had boxes and boxes filled with about 800 comics stored under his bed, and all he did was read them constantly and go buy almost every new edition that came out at the comic book store just a few blocks away. I wasn't into comics at all, but I'll admit they became a fairly entertaining read once you were stoned, lol...

[neoz]

Originally Posted by Girls With Guns

When I was in college back in 1981, my roommate at the fraternity house was a huge comic book fan, he had boxes and boxes filled with about 800 comics stored under his bed, and all he did was read them constantly and go buy almost every new edition that came out at the comic book store just a few blocks away. I wasn't into comics at all, but I'll admit they became a fairly entertaining read once you were stoned, lol...

I bet if they would have kept them in good condition they could have sold them for a good amount.

[kk1]

Originally Posted by neoz

I bet if they would have kept them in good condition they could have sold them for a good amount.

I bagged and boarded mine as soon as I read them, I wonder if my first appearance of Deadpool is worth anything?

[Girls With Guns]

Originally Posted by neoz

I bet if they would have kept them in good condition they could have sold them for a good amount.

Oh my, he had so many #1's in his collection, and what he had at school was only a portion of his collection from home. I swear he was buying almost every comic series that was releasing at the comic book store, he'd come back to the room with a small stack every week, it seemed. But yeah, If he still has his collection, he probably could be totally rich selling some of those off now.

[MOONPHASE]

Originally Posted by kk1

I bagged and boarded mine as soon as I read them, I wonder if my first appearance of Deadpool is worth anything?

The New Mutants #98? Hell yeah it’s worth a lot.

[neoz]

Originally Posted by kk1

I bagged and boarded mine as soon as I read them, I wonder if my first appearance of Deadpool is worth anything?

I never had anything rare. I had the Xmen where Jean and Cycolps get married from 94 and the issue BATMAN #497 where Bane breaks Batman's back but didn't bag and board it like a fool.

[Batman1980]

Cycolps?

[kk1]

Originally Posted by neoz

I never had anything rare. I had the Xmen where Jean and Cycolps get married from 94 and the issue BATMAN #497 where Bane breaks Batman's back but didn't bag and board it like a fool.

I have the Uncanny X-men (and all the spinoffs, X-factor, NM, etc.) back to @ 110? maybe up to right after they split into 2 books and all the Image artists left Marvel (or whenever Wolverine got his adamantium ripped out by Magneto, that was the story where I gave up), and ASM from @200 to right after McFarlane left, plus some other stuff I can't really recall. All bagged and boarded in boxes, haven't looked at them in years.

[llj]

Originally Posted by neoz

I bet if they would have kept them in good condition they could have sold them for a good amount.

Unless they are 60s comics or older, most superhero comics aren't worth that much anymore. The market for 80s-90s comics burst about 15-20 years ago. Anyone who's trying to sell any 90s superhero comic for over $20 is probably trying to rip you off. They printed a shit load of copies during the boom years, so there are very few comics from those years that are scarce. The only comics that really are worth a damn are those with really low print runs that are in high demand now or really old comics that were sold before comic specialty shops emerged to preserve them (basically anything before 1969). Numerous TPB reprints have also suppressed the demand for back issues, lowering their worth.

I have about 1000 comics from the 80s and 90s sitting in my parents' house and I don't think I'd get much more than $200-300 for the lot of them, and that's if anyone even wants to buy them. There's a reason why a lot of those comics are found in the bargain bins of comics shops these days.

I still have a few superhero comics I take out to look at every now and again for the art (and only occasionally, the stories). I can look at Bill Sienkiewicz's stuff still and marvel at the art. Mazzuchelli. Buscema. Ditko. Kirby. Their stuff is still very instructive to a budding comic artist and very readable or innovative visually.

Originally Posted by Bobo1313

They'll figure it out. I'm not as blackpilled on American comics as others, they're just in a funk at the moment. The medium will never fully go away imo.

I'd say they've already figured it out in that American comics doesn't equal superheroes anymore. The American market now has simply shifted to kids comics and alternative comics taking up a bigger piece of the pie than before. Raina Telgemeier has been the best selling American comic artist of the the past 12 years and she hasn't drawn one person with cape and spandex to do it. Seriously, one of her books was on the NY Times bestselling graphic novels list for FIVE YEARS STRAIGHT. Her first graphic novel, Smile, has sold over a million copies--which is the same numbers as Marvel and DC did during their hottest selling 90s years. Similarly, alt comics from people like Alison Bechdel, or whenever Daniel Clowes or Adrian Tomine drops a new work, routinely outsell whatever the latest DC and Marvel graphic novel comes out every month. Book sales routinely suggest that those who watch superhero movies don't really buy superhero comics.

This is a GOOD thing too. Comic artists releasing work owned by themselves is much better for the industry.

[kk1]

Originally Posted by llj

I still have a few superhero comics I take out to look at every now and again for the art (and only occasionally, the stories). I can look at Bill Sienkiewicz's stuff still and marvel at the art. Mazzuchelli. Buscema. Ditko. Kirby. Their stuff is still very instructive to a budding comic artist and very readable or innovative visually.

I wish I had the Neal Adams (who just died in April) early X-men stuff, I have an issue of the Avengers he did in the #90's and it is great. Art Adams (before he started doing his own inks) was my favorite when I was reading, my Longshot mini series and New Mutants Special Edition #1 (where they go to Asgard) are still favorites, and Alan Davis when he did eXcalibur tracked down his early Captain Britain stuff too.

[llj]

Originally Posted by kk1

I wish I had the Neal Adams (who just died in April) early X-men stuff, I have an issue of the Avengers he did in the #90's and it is great. Art Adams (before he started doing his own inks) was my favorite when I was reading, my Longshot mini series and New Mutants Special Edition #1 (where they go to Asgard) are still favorites, and Alan Davis when he did eXcalibur tracked down his early Captain Britain stuff too.

Walt Simonson's Thor run is also great and very readable still today. I'd even say it's the only truly great Thor run outside of the Kirby stuff.

The last superhero series I collected on a monthly basis was the Perez/Alan Davis-Busiek Avengers run of the early 2000s. I pretty much stopped getting monthly superhero comics after that run ended. That was a series I collected purely for reading pleasure, not for collecting.

[kk1]

Originally Posted by llj

Walt Simonson's Thor run is also great and very readable still today. I'd even say it's the only truly great Thor run outside of the Kirby stuff.

The last superhero series I collected on a monthly basis was the Perez/Alan Davis-Busiek Avengers run of the early 2000s. I pretty much stopped getting monthly superhero comics after that run ended. That was a series I collected purely for reading pleasure, not for collecting.

I was never a fan of Simonson, granted I never read the Thor stuff just X-factor (he did the first Apocalypse story) so maybe it worked better for that character but I just remember seeing Beta Ray Bill on the cover and thinking...that is weird.