Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Vilya]

I'm doing a lot better, but I still have a persistent cough.

Today I take my last dosage of Paxlovid, which leaves a terrible chemical aftertaste that lasts all day long. I will be glad to be done with it, but I also think that it really helped me.

Might turn on the TV for the first time in a week tonight; I've saved enough on power by being in bed almost the whole time that I can afford to run wild with it now.

[cheez avenger]

A friend was accidentally sent two copies of Event Horizon 4K disc steelbook and he gave me one. Nice gesture since I believe these steelbooks are sold out everywhere and hard to get at the moment.

First two episodes of The Rings of Power premiere tonight at 6pm PST. I am excited! It's the early 2000's again with new Tolkien related material coming out!

I also rented via PRIME, the HD digital version of an early 1970's exploitation film called "Bonnie's Kids." It apparently inspired QT and Pulp Fiction pays lots of homages to it. The trailer is hysterical and so is the tagline: "Thank God she only had two!" lol

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

A friend was accidentally sent two copies of Event Horizon 4K disc steelbook and he gave me one. Nice gesture since I believe these steelbooks are sold out everywhere and hard to get at the moment.

First two episodes of The Rings of Power premiere tonight at 6pm PST. I am excited! It's the early 2000's again with new Tolkien related material coming out!

I also rented via PRIME, the HD digital version of an early 1970's exploitation film called "Bonnie's Kids." It apparently inspired QT and Pulp Fiction pays lots of homages to it. The trailer is hysterical and so is the tagline: "Thank God she only had two!" lol

Nice, good film as well.

[Lee A Stewart]

Is Blu-ray at death's door? Innovative 1TB optical disc could be the future of physical media

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news...6621b213cbd80e

[sapiendut]

Every year… death of CD, death pf DVD, death of bluray. When will these so-called news outlet learn?

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

Is Blu-ray at death's door? Innovative 1TB optical disc could be the future of physical media

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news...6621b213cbd80e

What purpose would a 1TB disc have for pressed media? Studios aren't going to release 1TB discs with lots of movies for a cheap price and a 1TB disc with lots of movies for a high price wouldn't be as popular as selling each movie individually.

It would be great for TV shows but those continually sell better on DVD than Blu-ray. If people aren't willing to buy TV shows on Blu-ray they certainly wouldn't embrace a new format.

Originally Posted by sapiendut

Every year… death of CD, death of DVD, death of Blu-ray. When will these so-called news outlet learn?

When people stop clicking on the articles.

[Vilya]

A 1TB capacity optical disc might be useful for an 8K physical media format, but that would presume that there was actual demand for 8K content in the first place. I don't see that happening anytime soon, if ever.

[Warm Gun]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

Is Blu-ray at death's door? Innovative 1TB optical disc could be the future of physical media

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news...6621b213cbd80e

Physical media has no future. What I mean is that studios aren't gonna invest in another new format when they have more control over digital distribution and almost everybody is consuming over the internet anyway.

[unberechenbar]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

Is Blu-ray at death's door? Innovative 1TB optical disc could be the future of physical media

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news...6621b213cbd80e

I wonder if this could be a revolutionary jump in technology like DVD was compared to VHS. It's nice to see people still pushing the limits of optical media.

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by unberechenbar

I wonder if this could be a revolutionary jump in technology like DVD was compared to VHS. It's nice to see people still pushing the limits of optical media.

Probably not. Massive difference between DVD and VHS. Not so with this 1TB disc. Just another evolutionary change. Like BD and 4K UHD-BD.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by unberechenbar

I wonder if this could be a revolutionary jump in technology like DVD was compared to VHS. It's nice to see people still pushing the limits of optical media.

It could be but most likely will not be. Imagine what a 10 or 12 bit depth at 4:2:2 or 4:4:4 would be like for home use. IMHO, Hollywood would never support video at this quality level on a physical disc.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I'm doing a lot better, but I still have a persistent cough.

Today I take my last dosage of Paxlovid, which leaves a terrible chemical aftertaste that lasts all day long. I will be glad to be done with it, but I also think that it really helped me.

Might turn on the TV for the first time in a week tonight; I've saved enough on power by being in bed almost the whole time that I can afford to run wild with it now.

glad to hear you are doing better. Hope it kept up after the pills ended

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

Is Blu-ray at death's door? Innovative 1TB optical disc could be the future of physical media

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news...6621b213cbd80e

I would love if this is true. But I hate these ridiculous headlines. acording to the article this will be 5$/TB and from the looks of it, it appears to be write once not replicatable so not really geared for movie distribution but more for off-line or cold storage.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

What purpose would a 1TB disc have for pressed media? Studios aren't going to release 1TB discs with lots of movies for a cheap price and a 1TB disc with lots of movies for a high price wouldn't be as popular as selling each movie individually.

It would be great for TV shows but those continually sell better on DVD than Blu-ray. If people aren't willing to buy TV shows on Blu-ray they certainly wouldn't embrace a new format.



When people stop clicking on the articles.

I don't agree with you the 1TB is not important assuming the 1TB is for a 16 layer disk (article mentions 8 or 16) if this was for replication (and I am assuming it is not but it is for long term storage which makes it interesting for film sturdies but not us) they could use 2 layers for 125GB or 4 for 250 or 8 for 500. they don't need to replicate a disk with 16 layers of data every time the same way that some disks are single dual or triple layers today.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

It could be but most likely will not be. Imagine what a 10 or 12 bit depth at 4:2:2 or 4:4:4 would be like for home use. IMHO, Hollywood would never support video at this quality level on a physical disc.

I don't get why people say that (since you are not the only one). Don't get me wrong, I think They like that I keep on rebuying the same films over and over again every decade as new formats come out and so I don't think they are in any rush to get to master quality. But I don't feel they have an aversion to ever get there.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

I don't agree with you the 1TB is not important assuming the 1TB is for a 16 layer disk (article mentions 8 or 16) if this was for replication (and I am assuming it is not but it is for long term storage which makes it interesting for film sturdies but not us) they could use 2 layers for 125GB or 4 for 250 or 8 for 500. they don't need to replicate a disk with 16 layers of data every time the same way that some disks are single dual or triple layers today.

4K Blu-ray discs are already a niche market (and 100GB 4K Blu-ray discs are even rarer). Increasing the capacity won't do anything to increase the popularity of physical media and won't replace any of the (far more popular) lower capacity formats.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Estimates are that we will go from 1200 to 7,000 for our energy bill per year! So that figure will dramatically increase.

can you show me where these estimates of yours are coming from? I think it will be a substantial increase, but that seems extremely exaggerated compared to estimates I have seen.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

4K Blu-ray discs are already a niche market (and 100GB 4K Blu-ray discs are even rarer). Increasing the capacity won't do anything to increase the popularity of physical media and won't replace any of the (far more popular) lower capacity formats.

I am not sure I get your point.
Your previous point, if I understood it correctly, was 1TB is too big for 1 film, it could be useful to replace a box set but do we need a new format only for box sets.

I just said the 1 TB is not important, if we can replicate a disk with 16 layers (affordably when needed) the same line can replicate a 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16 layer disk depending on what is needed.

if we get an 8k physical format (and I don't care how popular it is if I wanted popular I would watch add supported SD streaming) then a single film can be on 3-4 layers and a trilogy (which I don't care if it is on one disk or not) plus extras on more layers.

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

I don't get why people say that (since you are not the only one). Don't get me wrong, I think They like that I keep on rebuying the same films over and over again every decade as new formats come out and so I don't think they are in any rush to get to master quality. But I don't feel they have an aversion to ever get there.

DVD, BD and UHD BD all use the same Chroma Subsampling Rate: 4:2:0. That's as low as you can go.

[Lee A Stewart]

Pioneer Develops World's First 16-Layer Optical Disc

JULY 7, 2008

Pioneer Corporation has succeeded in developing a 16-layer read-only optical disc with a capacity of 400 gigabytes for the first time in the world.

https://phys.org/news/2008-07-world-...ical-disc.html