The Anime Blu-ray Video Quality Thread

[TThomas]

Originally Posted by The Collector FX

What's the surplus cost difference between single layer (25GB) and dual layer (50GB) when companies press discs for distribution?
I tried Google and quick searching but couldn't find out.

A European pressing plant asks for ~1000 € BD50-surcharge for a 2000 units print run (like 0.50€ per disc), and approx ~1350 € BD50-surcharge (like 0.27€ per disc) for a 5000 units print run.
This already includes double AACS-fees for BD50 compared to BD25.

BD25 is quite popular with German anime companies, as the higher disc count allows to use the same premium packaging for DVD and Blu-ray versions - the final product gets a sticker or paper sheet (J-card) to show which version is included.

[NLScavenger]

Fusé: Memoirs of the Hunter Girl - Discotek Media BD vs Kadokawa BD

Comparison (Expires on August 27 2024)

Discotek Media BD


Kadokawa BD


The presentation on the Discotek Media release is good. Looks similar to the Kadokawa release.

As mentioned before: the NISA BD doesn't seem to have a color space conversion problem. If you already own the NISA BD, then the Discotek Media BD is perhaps not worth picking up.

Discotek Media BD | NISA BD (Blu-ray.com review)


BDInfo Discotek Media BD

DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     Fuse - Memoirs of the Hunter Girl
Disc Label:     FUSE
Disc Size:      23,671,877,982 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BDInfo:         0.7.5.8

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00003.MPLS
Length:                 1:49:39.573 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   22,566,731,136 bytes
Total Bitrate:          27.44 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        22990 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             Japanese        2046 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz /  2046 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz /   768 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio             Japanese        903 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz /   903 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz /   256 kbps / 16-bit)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         36.145 kbps

Kadokawa BD

AVG: 32099 kbps

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[Show spoiler]Fusé is one of several 2022 Discotek Media releases where you can bypass the region lock screen by pressing the top menu button on any Blu-ray player

[Memade]

Any info on whether Sentai's LE Vinland BD or UK mvm version is using BD footage instead of broadcast?

[Mangaranga]

Just a quick one - the Japanese BD of Paripi Koumei (or Ya Boy Kongming) is a steaming pile of poo, with near constant banding and/or blocking.
Sadly this seems to be a very common thing with P.A.Works titles these days.




A bitrate viewer scan for episode 1 reveals a suspicious bitrate graph...




Remuxing to an MKV confirms that the disc author pulled a Viz on this one. Never expected to see this behaviour pulled for a Japanese release.

[NLScavenger]

Though distributed via Avex Pictures, DMM Pictures produced the Blu-ray release. No wonder that it looks so awful.

[Mangaranga]

Originally Posted by NLScavenger

Though distributed via Avex Pictures, DMM Pictures produced the Blu-ray release. No wonder that it looks so awful.

That makes a lot of sense. Probably means Sentai's eventual BD will be at least marginally better at worst.

[pikagreg]

That is a shame to hear.

Has anyone heard anything about the US 4K Belle vs the UK one?

Or if the standard BD for Belle is any diff on the CE set?

[NLScavenger]

Originally Posted by pikagreg

That is a shame to hear.

Has anyone heard anything about the US 4K Belle vs the UK one?

Or if the standard BD for Belle is any diff on the CE set?

BD is the same as previous release

Originally Posted by wormraper

Atmos is for both tracks. English and Japanese

Subs are the same English and English SDH and Spanish found on the Blu-ray

the Blu-ray is the exact same disc down the bit as the previous one. just with a new silk screening for the top

[professorwho]

Originally Posted by pikagreg

Has anyone heard anything about the US 4K Belle vs the UK one?

I wouldn't bother with the NA release when the UK is so solid (the BD is fantastic, but obviously limited due to how visually complex the film vs format/bitrate limitations, and the UHD's encode is practically flawless). Unless you really want the dub in Atmos, I see no reason to get the GKids release.

[Show spoiler](Hopefully their UHD is good, and better yet, hopefully a clone of VDMS' encode, but knowing how Shout and Duplitech still fail to grasp UHD encoding even at ridiculously high bitrates, it wasn't worth risking it in my eyes)

[CrashOveride95]

I forgot to post about this before but the Lupin III pilots' HD remasters were recently uploaded to Amazon JP by WOWOW, and as expected they look amazing and destroy the ancient trashy 1989 telecine




Comparison between Discotek DVD and WEB-DL (CinemaScope)

Comparison between Discotek DVD and WEB-DL (Standard)

I really wish this would get a BD release anywhere (They haven't been available on BD even in Japan!)
Would love to see these at non-streaming encoding settings

[BorisKarloffice]

Originally Posted by The Collector FX

I despise BD-25's even if the running time was 60 seconds.

One of the strangest takes I've seen in a long time

[Naiera]

If there's enough space, there's enough space

[jd213]

As long as the bitrate can be comfortably high enough, as a collector I'd never want an unnecessary BD-50. Had several Criterion releases where the first layer was fine but the second rotted and became unplayable.

Not exactly a common issue, but I'd still be slightly paranoid about expensive/rare discs.

[Kyle15]

If you know what you're doing with bitrate and size you can work some magic. FiM's 14GB El Topo encode is proof of such, though it's probably not fair to use them as an example cuz they're so good.

[pikagreg]

Was it ever confirmed if the Sentai Vinland Saga LE fixed the discs or are they the same?

[BigOnAnime]

Originally Posted by pikagreg

Was it ever confirmed if the Sentai Vinland Saga LE fixed the discs or are they the same?

Nope. Telltale sign though would be the copyright year on the disc credits screen and ending credits, they'll probably say 2021 indicating same discs.

[Mangaranga]

Originally Posted by BigOnAnime

Nope. Telltale sign though would be the copyright year on the disc credits screen and ending credits, they'll probably say 2021 indicating same discs.

Easiest thing would be to check if the dimming and ghosting is present in the OP.
Alternatively, does anyone have HiDive and can check what version that uses? If that's also broadcast then I would assume the disc still is.

[bigzgod]

Originally Posted by Mangaranga

Easiest thing would be to check if the dimming and ghosting is present in the OP.
Alternatively, does anyone have HiDive and can check what version that uses? If that's also broadcast then I would assume the disc still is.

HiDive shows Home Video version

Original Premiere: 7/6/2019 7:00:00 PM
Versions: Home Video (TV-MA)
Audio: Japanese English
Subtitles: English

[NLScavenger]

I doubt that the description on HiDive is reliable.

Example of dimming:

German BD


Japanese BD

[bigzgod]

Originally Posted by NLScavenger

I doubt that the description on HiDive is reliable.

Just watched through the OP on HiDive stream marked as Home Video version. I can confirm there's still dimming.