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Old 11-28-2022, 09:31 PM   #1
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Good riddance. Manufacturers can now focus on improving motion resolution/ picture quality instead of useless specs.
These power requirements will affect all flat panels including 4K flat panels. It does not matter what the resolution of the flat panel is, its how much power consumption they use. OLED displays are at risk also when getting up to the 77 inch and higher range.

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"On March 1, 2023, even stricter requirements including a lower maximum level for power consumption will be imposed on all new TVs produced."


Plasma displays have better picture quality then LCD, but around a decade ago they were removed from the market since they use too much power, and that is one of the reasons 4K plasmas never appeared on the market and only 2K (1080P) plasmas, since they would consume too much power to meet the strict government power requirements for plasma displays. OLED displays replaced plasmas.

Manufactories are only going to be able to make very limited picture quality improvements with motion, and HDR since 4K displays fall under the energy consumption rules put in place by the government or governments of the world. Therefore, if more power plants are not built, manufactories will be forced to limit the size of the display, and limit the picture quality of the display in order to meet the power requirements for 4K displays. For some consumers the less power a display uses is the most important factor. However Videophiles prefer the best picture quality even though the display might use a extra 50 to 100 watts of power to deliver nice bright HDR images.

8K displays are being sold in the United States that offer improved resolution, but they also consume more power because of the higher resolution. So, consumers in Europe might have to move to the USA to purchase a 8K display unless the rules for 8K displays change or a breakthrough is made in order to make 8K displays more energy efficient. The United States also has growing power issues and needs more power plants. Only 20% of the United States is on nuclear power that generates zero CO2 emissions. France is 70% nuclear power with possible in the years to come France could become 100% nuclear power and France is on track to becoming the first country to be absolutely zero CO2 emissions free when it comes to power plants. Then in decades to come France might be zero CO2 emissions for transportation and industry if electric vehicles are used instead of gas motors (electric lawn mowers, electric cars, electric trucks, electric buses, electric trains, and one day electric airplanes).

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These power requirements will affect all flat panels including 4K flat panels. It does not matter what the resolution of the flat panel is, its how much power consumption they use. OLED displays are at risk also when getting up to the 77 inch and higher range.

quote from article

"On March 1, 2023, even stricter requirements including a lower maximum level for power consumption will be imposed on all new TVs produced."


Plasma displays have better picture quality then LCD, but around a decade ago they were removed from the market since they use too much power, and that is one of the reasons 4K plasmas never appeared on the market and only 2K (1080P) plasmas, since they would consume too much power to meet the strict government power requirements for plasma displays. OLED displays replaced plasmas.

Manufactories are only going to be able to make very limited picture quality improvements with motion, and HDR since 4K displays fall under the energy consumption rules put in place by the government or governments of the world. Therefore, if more power plants are not built, manufactories will be forced to limit the size of the display, and limit the picture quality of the display in order to meet the power requirements for 4K displays. For some consumers the less power a display uses is the most important factor. However Videophiles prefer the best picture quality even though the display might use a extra 50 to 100 watts of power to deliver nice bright HDR images.

8K displays are being sold in the United States that offer improved resolution, but they also consume more power because of the higher resolution. So, consumers in Europe might have to move to the USA to purchase a 8K display unless the rules for 8K displays change or a breakthrough is made in order to make 8k displays more energy efficient. The United States also has growing power issues and needs more power plants. Only 20% of the United States is on nuclear power that generates zero CO2 emissions. France is 70% nuclear power with possible in the years to come France could become 100% nuclear power and France is on track to becoming the first country to be absolutely zero CO2 emissions free when it comes to power plants. Then in decades to come France might be zero CO2 emissions for transportation and industry if electric vehicles are used instead of gas motors (electric lawn mowers, electric cars, electric trucks, electric buses, electric trains, and one day electric airplanes).
4K is good enough, I’m happy to stop there. It looks fantastic on a large screen.

If Europe has to abide with the new rules you can bet it will have a knock on effect for the USA. Questions will be asked of why Americans aren’t doing their bit.

Maybe it’s time to put 8K on the back burner until these problems are solved.

Having said all that, there is a work around. EU TVs could be preset at a dim energy saving mode with a notification that brighter settings can be achieved with the press of a button.

Also, the 8K association are lobbying for a response and that may still happen.

U.K. tv and film fans aren’t going to move to the USA to get a 8K tv, that’s wild talk.

The industry will sort the 4K issue, it’s 8K that seems undoable without that shortcut I mentioned.

It’s worth noting that 8K adoption is poor at this stage though.
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8K displays are something for the year 2026+. There needs to be native 8K content offered by a 8K optical disc, 8K cable TV boxes, 8K satellite TV boxes, 8K ATSC over the air, and 8K streaming.

So until native 8K content is offered the sells for 8K displays will be lower. Also, it needs to be verified that 8K displays will work with the existing HCDP 2.2 standard, and it needs to be verified that something like a new HDCP 3.2 standard is not required.

Power consumption issues will affect all displays regardless of their resolution. 8K projectors in 2026+ might be except from the power consumption rules.
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