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Old 12-31-2022, 06:24 PM   #1721
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I really enjoyed NTTD. Don't get me wrong, it was crackers, but it was ballsy and different and I think it adds something to the Bond cinematic experience that we previously did not have, which is an arc with one actor that can be contained to itself. That is not a suggestion that the arc was anything like perfect because obviously it was not. But going forward I like having a five movie stretch that I can treat as its own entity within the franchise. The rest of the movies can be mixed and matched as my mood takes me and 007: DC can be my contained arc that I watch when I want soomething that treats Bond as less of a superhero and more a human being where the stakes actually matter.
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I really enjoyed NTTD. Don't get me wrong, it was crackers, but it was ballsy and different and I think it adds something to the Bond cinematic experience that we previously did not have, which is an arc with one actor that can be contained to itself. That is not a suggestion that the arc was anything like perfect because obviously it was not. But going forward I like having a five movie stretch that I can treat as its own entity within the franchise. The rest of the movies can be mixed and matched as my mood takes me and 007: DC can be my contained arc that I watch when I want soomething that treats Bond as less of a superhero and more a human being where the stakes actually matter.
I agree with this wholeheartedly. I'm a looooooong-time Bond fan and I really loathe the Timothy Dalton films and at least a couple of the Pierce Brosnans, so I can understand somebody not liking the Craigs. There'll be somebody else and those won't be for everybody. I kinda look at them like Batman movies. I like Burton's, love Nolan's and am completely meh about the new one.
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Old 12-31-2022, 09:47 PM   #1724
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Meanwhile in this same film (NTTD) we have Ana de Armas...
Did she get super fit for the role, did she muscle up? Or do you mean she's hot? She's alright. Almost middling without all the makeup. Never swooned me in Knives Out and BR 2049. Not wowed by the facial structure.
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Did she get super fit for the role, did she muscle up? Or do you mean she's hot? She's alright. Almost middling without all the makeup. Never swooned me in Knives Out and BR 2049. Not wowed by the facial structure.
She got fit and trained.

Is she musclebound? No.
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Did she get super fit for the role, did she muscle up? Or do you mean she's hot? She's alright. Almost middling without all the makeup. Never swooned me in Knives Out and BR 2049. Not wowed by the facial structure.
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Even the photo I found with the least makeup has some, and even with all the makeup I don't find her that pretty. I know because she's a woman she automatically gets two extra points in a ten point looks scale. My scale is correct because I don't think with my cock all the time. Her head is so rounded all over. She also looks fragile, like a henchman's light punch would send her flying across a room.

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She was great because she was so much fun in this, looks didn't hurt either of course.

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even the photo i found with the least makeup has some, and even with all the makeup i don't find her that pretty. i know because she's a woman she automatically gets two extra points in a ten point looks scale. my scale is correct because i don't think with my cock all the time. Her head is so rounded all over. She also looks fragile, like a henchman's light punch would send her flying across a room.
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Old 01-01-2023, 06:57 AM   #1730
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People complain that these movies are too formulaic and won't try new things after almost 60 years of the franchise existing, then No Time To Die has the balls to end the actor's run differently, and people can't help but complain that they did something different.

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People complain that these movies are too formulaic and won't try new things after almost 60 years of the franchise existing, then No Time To Die has the balls to end the actor's run differently, and people can't help but complain that they did something different.

I hate the internet sometimes.
The internet is not all bad.

Opinions vary!

I’m not one of the complainers in that sense, I liked the tried and tested formula. I’m complaining because it’s different. Didn’t feel like a Bond movie to me because of that. There are other films you can watch like Bond that can be different. Keep Bond, Bond. I tried to rewatch it after the cinema but I turned it off, to me it was such a disappointment.

I have to agree that Ana was the best thing about the film though like she was in Knives Out.
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Even the photo I found with the least makeup has some, and even with all the makeup I don't find her that pretty. I know because she's a woman she automatically gets two extra points in a ten point looks scale. My scale is correct because I don't think with my cock all the time. Her head is so rounded all over. She also looks fragile, like a henchman's light punch would send her flying across a room.
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People complain that these movies are too formulaic and won't try new things after almost 60 years of the franchise existing, then No Time To Die has the balls to end the actor's run differently, and people can't help but complain that they did something different.

I hate the internet sometimes.
I’m not against trying something different but killing off the character is just stupid and misguided. Like I said earlier, no actor is bigger than the character, whether it’s Connery or Craig.
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I’m not against trying something different but killing off the character is just stupid and misguided. Like I said earlier, no actor is bigger than the character, whether it’s Connery or Craig.
His character isn’t killed off. Daniel Craig’s version is killed off. I hate to break it to you but every time they recast bond he was ‘killed off’. Every single time they bring a new actor in it’s pretty much ‘Bond universe 919’ and the Daniel Craig run was all the more potent for this by having his origin story in there. Going from origin to ageing agent who literally dies for queen and country is the most satisfying arc any Bond actor has ever had. They will ‘reboot’ Bond again and it will have just as much potential to be glorious. This is my favourite Bond movie ever made and that’s saying something. It’s satisfying to have the stakes be real for once, and a truly touching send off to Craig’s overall splendid run as 007.
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Don’t worry about breaking anything to me. I think you’re wrong but respect your opinion.
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People complain that these movies are too formulaic and won't try new things after almost 60 years of the franchise existing, then No Time To Die has the balls to end the actor's run differently, and people can't help but complain that they did something different.

I hate the internet sometimes.
Doing something different is not the same as killing off the main character, and not everyone complains about them being formulaic. In fact, many fans enjoy that aspect of the franchise.

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His character isn’t killed off. Daniel Craig’s version is killed off. I hate to break it to you but every time they recast bond he was ‘killed off’. Every single time they bring a new actor in it’s pretty much ‘Bond universe 919’ and the Daniel Craig run was all the more potent for this by having his origin story in there. Going from origin to ageing agent who literally dies for queen and country is the most satisfying arc any Bond actor has ever had. They will ‘reboot’ Bond again and it will have just as much potential to be glorious. This is my favourite Bond movie ever made and that’s saying something. It’s satisfying to have the stakes be real for once, and a truly touching send off to Craig’s overall splendid run as 007.
No he's not. The entire run of the first 20 films were consistent, albeit with a floating timeline. They were able to run the gamut of styles within that framework, only tweaking things a bit with the Brosnan films.

When Craig took over it was advertised as a hard reboot but that it would be the only one, now they have to do another hard reboot. Doesn't really seem like the stakes are all that real to me to actually kill off the character then just have him be resurrected in the next film played by a different guy, having to start all over again from the ground up.

It eliminates the ability to becomes invested in the character and his lifespan if they just kill him off and his the reset button each time. When Dalton's Bond in LTK or Moore's Bond in TSWLM get sensitive when someone mentions the death of Bond's wife Tracy, it means something because there was 40 years and 20 movies worth of history wrapped up in that character. I had no emotional reaction whatsoever to the end of NTTD because it was a contrived ending to a rushed five-movie career.
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It has to be mentioned though that there is no logical explanation for why Bond as Connery is in the 60's and Bond as Brosnan is in the 90's and the dude did not age a year between though Q is on deaths door by Brosnan.

I think they are linked but Im not really sensitive about continuity when it comes to Bond films.
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The entire run of the first 20 films were consistent, albeit with a floating timeline. They were able to run the gamut of styles within that framework, only tweaking things a bit with the Brosnan films.

When Craig took over it was advertised as a hard reboot but that it would be the only one, now they have to do another hard reboot. Doesn't really seem like the stakes are all that real to me to actually kill off the character then just have him be resurrected in the next film played by a different guy, having to start all over again from the ground up.

It eliminates the ability to becomes invested in the character and his lifespan if they just kill him off and his the reset button each time. When Dalton's Bond in LTK or Moore's Bond in TSWLM get sensitive when someone mentions the death of Bond's wife Tracy, it means something because there was 40 years and 20 movies worth of history wrapped up in that character. I had no emotional reaction whatsoever to the end of NTTD because it was a contrived ending to a rushed five-movie career.
Why do they have to start all over again? If the first twenty movies are consistent (insert appropriate bemused look) then surely a new Bond can easily be inserted at any point within those twenty movies?

They have killed Bond once, so where does the "it eliminates the ability to become invested in the character and his lifespan if they just kill him off and his the reset button each time" come from? You are assuming that each time Bond will be killed off when there is nothing at all to suggest that is the case. And on a personal note, that is obviously not the case, because I was and still am invested in Craig's Bond, all of it, including his death. Craig's Bond was a hard reset to the beginning and the story is told in the five movies. If they are garbage to you, just forget them. Or the last movie at least, when Bond walks off the bridge in London, cut to THE END. It easily works.
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