Extremely Scary Thought: Can Streaming Video Companies Edit Movies!?!?

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by CrowKiller

Yeah for the life of me, I don't understand why anyone would waste money on digital content. Complete waste of money in every conceivable way. Things can be altered. Things can be taken away. Mind boggling how people fall for that crap. Buy discs. Won't be altered. Won't get taken away by rights holders. Even if they rather stream, they can just rip their discs and set up a FREE plex server, which is what I do, for when I'm away from home. Which can be accessed anywhere with an internet connection or even locally. I paid zero for all my digital stuff, or it was stuff that happened to come with my physical copies. Other than a rental, streaming is a waste of money and only suckers buy that stuff. IMO

I used to throw the digital code in the garbage.

Glad it’s not tarnishing my Blu-ray and 4K cases much these days, even the studios seem to be bored with digital movies. (All about subscription now)

[Chad Rouch]

Originally Posted by CrowKiller

Yeah for the life of me, I don't understand why anyone would waste money on digital content. Complete waste of money in every conceivable way. Things can be altered. Things can be taken away. Mind boggling how people fall for that crap. Buy discs. Won't be altered. Won't get taken away by rights holders. Even if they rather stream, they can just rip their discs and set up a FREE plex server, which is what I do, for when I'm away from home. Which can be accessed anywhere with an internet connection or even locally. I paid zero for all my digital stuff, or it was stuff that happened to come with my physical copies. Other than a rental, streaming is a waste of money and only suckers buy that stuff. IMO

After you've had a large laserdisc collection and a large DVD collection become obsolete, the idea of "owning movies forever" fades away. Eventually those blu-rays won't seem as special to you when the 8k versions are released and you want the absolute best quality for your favorite movies and shows. We never really own these movies, we basically rent them for a few years.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Chad Rouch

After you've had a large laserdisc collection and a large DVD collection become obsolete, the idea of "owning movies forever" fades away. Eventually those blu-rays won't seem as special to you when the 8k versions are released and you want the absolute best quality for your favorite movies and shows. We never really own these movies, we basically rent them for a few years.

Why would a DVD collection be obsolete? They are not even remotely close to being obsolete. 4K players play DVD just fine and while I don’t project them, they look fine upscaled on my 4K tv. Much better than streamed SD sources for example.

If you have a 4K or Blu-ray player, DVD is a very safe bet.

[sandman slim]

Originally Posted by Engage

Hey guys, this has been on my mind so much that I haven't been using my streaming video accounts even though I'm paying for it.

And then...

I'm not paranoid or anything...

Uhm... Who wants to tell him?

[ps3bd_owner]

Yes, for example on YouTube publishers/managers/creators can simply update their videos without reuploading it.

That sometimes is great when they replace SD footage with a HD remaster.

YouTube

While other times, they can replace with inferior quality or censor it.

Welcome to the Digital Era. You'll Own Nothing, and Be Happy. (:

[DuncJS]

Originally Posted by kannibaliztik

funny enough, when they updated Splash to 4K they returned it to it's original version. From what I've read that edit wasn't even from Disney, they were just using an edited broadcast version on D+. Digital rights are so weird.

Wait. They did what? Did I hear that right???

[CrowKiller]

Originally Posted by Chad Rouch

After you've had a large laserdisc collection and a large DVD collection become obsolete, the idea of "owning movies forever" fades away. Eventually those blu-rays won't seem as special to you when the 8k versions are released and you want the absolute best quality for your favorite movies and shows. We never really own these movies, we basically rent them for a few years.

Laserdisc I can understand your point because players are hard to come by. DVDs and Blus aren't a problem. Plenty of players. I have like 10 players that play blus and DVDs. I don't really have a need to upgrade everything. Hell, some blus I won't upgrade to 4k because the blus look fine to me. Only if it's a big difference like a new scan vs an old 10+ year scan or don't have the blu already. 4k discs might be a little harder in the future because there's not a lot of players out there compared to blu or DVD ones. I think we have gotten to a point where blus won't be obsolete compared to old "foolscreen" (pan and scan) and non anamorphic DVDs with low af bitrates. I mostly watch old sleazy horror movies, so not much more to squeeze out of those these days as far as detail.

[kannibaliztik]

Originally Posted by DuncJS

Wait. They did what? Did I hear that right???

https://movieweb.com/disney-4k-upgra...h-naked-scene/

[Chad Rouch]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Why would a DVD collection be obsolete? They are not even remotely close to being obsolete. 4K players play DVD just fine and while I don’t project them, they look fine upscaled on my 4K tv. Much better than streamed SD sources for example.

If you have a 4K or Blu-ray player, DVD is a very safe bet.

Because I wanted better and repurchased most of the titles on Blu-ray. They became obsolete to me.

[GaragePoet]

[Show spoiler]

[CivilTwilight]

Sure you could rip your disc but you can even more easily download your Itunes purchases if that's the route you want to take. When you buy a digital copy, you keep that movie even if it gets delisted from the storefront. I guess technically your purchase is replaced after it gets upgraded. However, it's very rare for me to want to own more than one version of a movie. The majority of the time, I'm happy to own a definitive version but when that isn't possible, the option still exists to buy the film in different formats. I already own multiple copies of all my favorites on DVD or blu ray. Most of them are either extended or alternate cuts, have special features, different aspect ratios, color timing, etc.

Generally the way I see it is that physical copies are for fans who like to watch their favorite films over and over again while digital caters mostly to those with widespread tastes who are more willing to take a chance on a random title. With physical, you also have a minority who collect from a particular label, but I found that to be a too expensive hobby for me. It's wild to me that so many classics haven't been released on any high def physical format yet a ton of z grade horror gets the deluxe treatment from these independent labels. Not to disparage those films in any way as I purchased quite a few of them during the last Arrow sale on Itunes.

I've discovered many great and unique films in my digital collecting that I never would have otherwise so for me it's been a win. In addition, I'm still supporting a format that allows the customer more control than the alternative of subscription services and exposing myself to films that are unlikely to get a disc release.

[Undeadcow]

It's also possible that digital content could be updated for the better with a new remaster, better sound, added bonus features, or even legit superior content tweaks.

[Liquid_Swords]

Originally Posted by Undeadcow

It's also possible that digital content could be updated for the better with a new remaster, better sound, added bonus features, or even legit superior content tweaks.

I read somewhere about that. Maybe it was Kaleidescape. Could be wrong though.

[WonkaBedknobs83]

The second movie in my username is the answer to your question: a resounding "yes."

[CatBus]

Originally Posted by CivilTwilight

Generally the way I see it is that physical copies are for fans who like to watch their favorite films over and over again while digital caters mostly to those with widespread tastes who are more willing to take a chance on a random title.

IMO you're describing the same person dealing with different films. If you have broad tastes and want to take a chance on a random title, digital purchases are actually not your first stop -- streaming is. Then if you like it enough for more than one viewing, you buy it -- digital or physical.

Only if the streaming experience is so poor that you'd rather buy a bad movie than stream it would most people jump straight to purchasing/blind buys. But, to be fair, there ARE some streaming services that I'd describe that way.

[cheez avenger]

Originally Posted by Zillamon51

Disney+ has already done this. They gave Daryl Hannah digital hair extensions to cover her bare butt in Splash. There may be other examples.

As for purchased content on a service like Vudu, you're probably safe. While they could theoretically alter content, I doubt they would want to deal with the customer backlash.

Disney+ edited out dialogue in the Marvel short with Ben Kingsley in prison. There's a scene where a black inmate yells out "Hey, Cracker!" The "hey" part is still there but the audio is omitted on "Cracker" part. It wasn't always, though. Now, the only way to get that unedited short is to get the Thor: Dark World disc.

[nickg]

Can and will, if they arent already. its not surprising, they can just edit out any 'objectionable' parts from the streaming service if need be. add in "disclaimers",even if its one you bought to stream(ie from vudU) nothing is stopping them. only way to make sure you version you love is always there for you is to buy it physically and make backupd

[steve_dave]

Originally Posted by nickg

Can and will, if they arent already. its not surprising, they can just edit out any 'objectionable' parts from the streaming service if need be. add in "disclaimers",even if its one you bought to stream(ie from vudU) nothing is stopping them. only way to make sure you version you love is always there for you is to buy it physically and make backupd

I said it before: Disney already replaced the US Lilo & Stitch 2 packs with new pressings that have the UK cut of Lilo & Stitch.

Physical can be changed too and in a lot of cases, you won’t know these changes happened. The Executive Decision Blu-ray is slightly altered compared to the DVD.

Who Framed Roger Rabbit has had numerous alterations over the years on Laserdisc, VHS, DVD, Blu-ray, and 4K disc. The only way to get the original version is on Laserdisc at this point.

[CivilTwilight]

Originally Posted by CatBus

IMO you're describing the same person dealing with different films. If you have broad tastes and want to take a chance on a random title, digital purchases are actually not your first stop -- streaming is. Then if you like it enough for more than one viewing, you buy it -- digital or physical.

Only if the streaming experience is so poor that you'd rather buy a bad movie than stream it would most people jump straight to purchasing/blind buys. But, to be fair, there ARE some streaming services that I'd describe that way.

That's certainly applies to a lot of people. However, I find it rather inconvenient to be subscribed to so many streaming services where the rights can lapse at any moment. I rather watch what I want when it's convenient for me. There's also the case that many new releases don't end up on any streaming services for months if at all.

That said, I am subscribed to a few streaming services mostly for the exclusive content. However it's becoming so fractured, I just wish that the titles would be available to rent or purchase rather than launching on some random service.

[cheez avenger]

Originally Posted by steve_dave

I said it before: Disney already replaced the US Lilo & Stitch 2 packs with new pressings that have the UK cut of Lilo & Stitch.

Physical can be changed too and in a lot of cases, you won’t know these changes happened. The Executive Decision Blu-ray is slightly altered compared to the DVD.

Who Framed Roger Rabbit has had numerous alterations over the years on Laserdisc, VHS, DVD, Blu-ray, and 4K disc. The only way to get the original version is on Laserdisc at this point.

What's wrong with Executive Decision?