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Old 01-21-2023, 12:40 AM   #1541
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Because they're talking out of their ass?
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Oh no. Why isn't it real DV?
The Dolby Vision metadata isn't dynamic at all. It's just a static dimming down of the picture throughout the whole movie.
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Old 01-21-2023, 01:02 AM   #1542
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Old 01-21-2023, 04:15 AM   #1543
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Because they're talking out of their ass?
No, they are not really. Static (and false) DV meta data is a hack really. It might help with the symptoms of the borked underlying grade, but it's still a hack. But I thought we settled that by now.

EDIT: It's not real DV in regard to there not being "real" DV content - one could simply spoof the same static DV meta data values instead. Starship Trooper's DV is the equivalent of EMI changing a Beatles song from C Minor to E minor, the result being shit and then re-releasing the same E minor shit with a meta data which makes the processor, handling the meta data, make it sound like C Minor again. And I'm basically totally serious.

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Old 01-21-2023, 02:02 PM   #1544
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There's just a problem, though..

I don't care.
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Old 01-21-2023, 02:46 PM   #1545
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There's just a problem, though..

I don't care.
If you don't care, why don't you just acknowledge that it's true/a valid point instead of saying "they are talking out of their ass"?

Anyway, I do care about the facts and your comment was misleading, hence my comment.
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Old 01-21-2023, 03:35 PM   #1546
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Why don't you go shit on someone else's party?

Did you also know that most if not all of the ''hybrid remuxes'' with DV from HDR discs and web DV are prolly fake and reverse engineered?
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Old 01-21-2023, 08:14 PM   #1547
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No, they are not really. Static (and false) DV meta data is a hack really. It might help with the symptoms of the borked underlying grade, but it's still a hack. But I thought we settled that by now.

EDIT: It's not real DV in regard to there not being "real" DV content - one could simply spoof the same static DV meta data values instead. Starship Trooper's DV is the equivalent of EMI changing a Beatles song from C Minor to E minor, the result being shit and then re-releasing the same E minor shit with a meta data which makes the processor, handling the meta data, make it sound like C Minor again. And I'm basically totally serious.
All this might be true - but on DV displays it does indeed "fix" the movie and looks great IMO.

For non-DV displays they ignore the metadata anyway so it's the same as the first disc.

No harm - no foul.
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Old 01-21-2023, 08:20 PM   #1548
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All this might be true - but on DV displays it does indeed "fix" the movie and looks great IMO.

For non-DV displays they ignore the metadata anyway so it's the same as the first disc.

No harm - no foul.
I didn't argue about that. I even have the disc filed under maybe (not for the DV, but the better compression, because that's a minor itch). But even if I owned it, I'd still call it a total hack. Because that's what it is DV wise (if the static meta data is true). But the other guy seems to have a problem with people saying so.
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Old 01-21-2023, 08:33 PM   #1549
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I didn't argue about that. I even have the disc filed under maybe (not for the DV, but the better compression, because that's a minor itch). But even if I owned it, I'd still call it a total hack. Because that's what it is DV wise (if the static meta data is true). But the other guy seems to have a problem with people saying so.
I just think you're making a big deal out of a total nothing. You act like you're being ''lied'', ''scammed''.. who cares. You seem to be all about numbers and data and not what the movie looks like. You prolly must hate 4K upscales too.
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Old 01-21-2023, 08:41 PM   #1550
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I just think you're making a big deal out of a total nothing. You act like you're being ''lied'', ''scammed''.. who cares. You seem to be all about numbers and data and not what the movie looks like. You prolly must hate 4K upscales too.
No, I'm just competent.
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Old 01-21-2023, 08:51 PM   #1551
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No, I'm just competent.
You also didn't bother to reply to me about all the hybrid remuxes being pretty much fake DV, HDR under a DV metadata.

Tell me if you know so much about ''real'' or ''fake'' DV.
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Old 01-21-2023, 09:26 PM   #1552
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You also didn't bother to reply to me about all the hybrid remuxes
That's right.
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Old 01-21-2023, 09:32 PM   #1553
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That's right.
And why don't you? I'm not even mocking you, you seem an expert, so I want to know what you think. I'm actually curious about what's your take on that
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I'm convinced that Paul Verhoeven is a closet bisexual. Moreso than any other filmmaker, he consistently casts good-looking men and women and grants us equal-opportunity nudity. What a king.
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I'm convinced that Paul Verhoeven is a closet bisexual. Moreso than any other filmmaker, he consistently casts good-looking men and women and grants us equal-opportunity nudity. What a king.
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I've been looking for a gif of Elizabeth Berkley sucking on her fingers for a while now, and then you gave it to me. Marry me?
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I've been looking for a gif of Elizabeth Berkley sucking on her fingers for a while now, and then you gave it to me. Marry me?


Sure, only if it’s a Showgirls-themed wedding!
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Old 01-21-2023, 11:08 PM   #1558
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Sure, only if it’s a Showgirls-themed wedding!
You can be Cristal and I can be Nomi? We can walk down the aisle to 319 by Prince.
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You can be Cristal and I can be Nomi? We can walk down the aisle to 319 by Prince.
I prefer “I Would Die 4 U”, but anything for my honeybun, so i’ll be Cristal
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