Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by Ender14

Same BS that has been disproven time and time again.

That one insist on making himself look like a and that is just .

There are at least four current models of UHD Blu-ray players based on the MediaTek SoC (like the Oppo). Reavon here and Magnetar here. I believe Sony has discontinued their UHD Blu-ray players but some may still be available and they were MediaTek based also.

If one is willing to take the risk there is AliExpress with some models here.

[lgans316]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Please try harder to get along with each other. All of this acrimony is enough to make a guy ill.

Thank you all for the kind thoughts. I'm doing all that I can.

Glad to hear from you. Wishing you the nothing but the very best.

I don't post here much but it's important that we stop this Physical Vs. Digital cat fights and enjoy whatever pleases us. There will always be 100s of other things to worry about in life. Both techs will co-exists at least for many more years to come and let's try to embrace, adapt and enjoy.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by lgans316

Glad to hear from you. Wishing you the nothing but the very best.

Don’t know how far back you read but Vilya has some very grave health issues and that makes us very .

I don't post here much but it's important that we stop this Physical Vs. Digital cat fights and enjoy whatever pleases us. There will always be 100s of other things to worry about in life. Both techs will co-exists at least for many more years to come and let's try to embrace, adapt and enjoy.

Would be nice if folks would do that but in my experience it never happens. Some of mine:

1" C vs. 1" B vs. 2" Quadraplex ● 16x9 vs. 4x3 ● 1920 x 1080 vs. 1280 x 720 ● ⅔" CCD vs. ½" CCD ● 8 Track vs. 4 Track ● 8VSB vs. COFDM ● Analog vs. Digital audio desk ● Avid vs. CMX ● Beta H-Fi vs. VHS Hi-Fi ● BetaCam vs. Type M ● Blu-ray vs. HD DVD ● CD vs. LP ● Dolby Digital vs. DTS ● DVD vs. DIVX DVD ● DVI/HDCP vs. DVI ● LaserDisc vs. CED ● LCoS/SXRD vs. DLP ● PCM 3324/3348 vs. Mitsubishi 32 ● Plumbicon vs. CCD ● Solid State vs. Tubes

In the US: I remember long after the FCC mandated 8VSB that some COFDM folks continued to constantly heckle those of us trying to help early adopters with their hardware, software and antennas. Here, it is very tame compared to what it was like on eTown in the days of DVD vs. DIVX DVD. Also quite heated in the days of Blu-ray vs. HD DVD at AVS. The same happened there as in, long after everyone got onboard with Blu-ray some continued to heckle us Blu-ray supporters. Have you ever watched this video? :

[Show spoiler]

The downfall of HD DVD - YouTube

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by lgans316

Glad to hear from you. Wishing you the nothing but the very best.

I don't post here much but it's important that we stop this Physical Vs. Digital cat fights and enjoy whatever pleases us. There will always be 100s of other things to worry about in life. Both techs will co-exists at least for many more years to come and let's try to embrace, adapt and enjoy.

I think you are missing the point of the thread somewhat.

[lgans316]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Don’t know how far back you read but Vilya has some very grave health issues and that makes us very .

Yes I do, I had acknowledged earlier by thanking but was just wishing him the best.

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by bhampton

Give $50 million worth of stock to assume $321 Million in dept.

Seems reasonable.

Chicken Soup expects $40 million in synergies from the merger, and overall revenue from the combined companies to triple to $500 million annually. Chicken Soup will also add around 11,000 movies and TV series to a 40,000-title streaming catalog to drive through a bolstered 145 free ad-supported streaming TV platform.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/bu...ox-1235197034/

[bhampton]

Well Chicken Soup is good for the soul so good luck to them.

I haven't used Redbox in some time.

[Steedeel]

Watched Nope in 4K tonight. What a A/V feast! Stunning IMAX sequences and enveloping audio.

Really liked the film, 4/5 from me.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by unberechenbar

I recently blind bought this. Has anyone seen it?

Have you watched Stagecoach yet? If so, thoughts?

Netflix by mail does not have it so would be a blind buy for me as well.

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by stonesfan129

Has anyone else noticed that Redbox is acquiring fewer releases on Blu-ray? I tried to get Lamborghini from there and they only have the DVD. I also looked for The Menu on there, but they don't even have it in their "Coming Soon" area. Is Redbox losing money to the point where they'll go broke soon? It's a good thing DVD Netflix is still available.

Redbox Stock is selling for $1.65 a share, so it doesn't look good for the Company. Their Kiosk have shrunk, and no one seems to be buying. Disc Rentals are on the way out!

[unberechenbar]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Have you watched Stagecoach yet? If so, thoughts?

Netflix by mail does not have it so would be a blind buy for me as well.

Nope. Have a big backlog so it'll be a while before I get around to it. Will share my thoughts here when I do though.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by alchav21

Redbox Stock is selling for $1.65 a share, so it doesn't look good for the Company. Their Kiosk have shrunk, and no one seems to be buying. Disc Rentals are on the way out!

Meanwhile, studios are starting to admit that there doesn’t seem to be much profit in streaming.

I wouldn’t be so keen to celebrate the demise of disc rentals if I were you.

There were too many people drinking the kool aid with digital movies rather than making the most of discs superior quality.

[bhampton]

I have Disney+
I have purchased movies on iTunes
I have physical media.

Which of these do you think will last the longest ?

I used to think online movie services were a threat to physical media but subscription seems to be the significantly bigger fish and in my mind it's more of a threat to my cloud service collection (iTunes)

Online movie lockers are so irrelevant with the rise of subscription services. Most of my iTunes movies are available on a subscription service now and if they discontinued them it wouldn't really matter. iTunes still sells music too even though most people prefer a music subscription lately.

Only one of my kids is interested in inheriting the physical media collection and the iTunes movies have no survivorship benefits. My answer to this question would be I believe D+ will last longest because people pay for it by the minute and that's a very good business model.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by bhampton

I have Disney+
I have purchased movies on iTunes
I have physical media.

Which of these do you think will last the longest ?

I used to think online movie services were a threat to physical media but subscription seems to be the significantly bigger fish and in my mind it's more of a threat to my cloud service collection (iTunes)

Online movie lockers are so irrelevant with the rise of subscription services. Most of my iTunes movies are available on a subscription service now and if they discontinued them it wouldn't really matter. iTunes still sells music too even though most people prefer a music subscription lately.

Only one of my kids is interested in inheriting the physical media collection and the iTunes movies have no survivorship benefits. My answer to this question would be I believe D+ will last longest because people pay for it by the minute and that's a very good business model.

True HT enthusiasts will continue with disc. Whether that’s 5 more years or 15 more years, I’m there to the end.

This is my third decade of collecting films on disc, it been glorious, it will continue to be imo.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Meanwhile, studios are starting to admit that there doesn’t seem to be much profit in streaming.

Netflix made a statement recently they were the only ones making a profit from streaming and that profit was only in the millions. They did much better profit wise with disc when they really pushed disc rental. Meanwhile:

For the fiscal year, Peacock’s operating loss increased 47% to $2.5 billion from a loss of $1.7 billion in 2021.

I wouldn’t be so keen to celebrate the demise of disc rentals if I were you.

alchav21 is nothing more than a, “if I can’t have it then I don’t want you to have it either”. Trolls like him has been around since the days of CompuServe and private BBS's.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Netflix made a statement recently they were the only ones making a profit from streaming and that profit was only in the millions. They did much better profit wise with disc when they really pushed disc rental. Meanwhile:
alchav21 is nothing more than a, “if I can’t have it then I don’t want you to have it either”. Trolls like him has been around since the days of CompuServe and private BBS's.

I would be amazed if Paramount and Peacock aren’t swallowed up by one of the big 4 in the next year or two.

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I would be amazed if Paramount and Peacock aren’t swallowed up by one of the big 4 in the next year or two.

Don't quit your day job. You'll starve as a prognosticator.

There will be no swallowing. Peacock is part of NBC Universal. They are a big enough company to buy Paramount Global. That's the only way it would happen.

All they would do is go back to the business plan they used to have: license out their content to other streaming services.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

Don't quit your day job. You'll starve as a prognosticator.

There will be no swallowing. Peacock is part of NBC Universal. They are a big enough company to buy Paramount Global. That's the only way it would happen.

All they would do is go back to the business plan they used to have: license out their content to other streaming services.

Hark at the guy who keeps telling us cinemas will die and Disney+ will turn a profit next, next, next year (or by 2040 maybe)

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Hark at the guy who keeps telling us cinemas will die and Disney+ will turn a profit next, next, next year (or by 2040 maybe)

You are not paying attention again Steedeel.

I dare you . . .I double dare you . . . to find a post made by me that states "Cinemas will die."

I have ALWAYS as in never waivered, said that ACCORDING to Disney on their Disney Plus Day 2020, Disney+ will be profitable BY EOY 2024.

So please - take your hatred and bullshit and peddle it some place else.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

You are not paying attention again Steedeel.

I dare you . . .I double dare you . . . to find a post made by me that states "Cinemas will die."

I have ALWAYS as in never waivered, said that ACCORDING to Disney on their Disney Plus Day 2020, Disney+ will be profitable BY EOY 2024.

So please - take your hatred and bullshit and peddle it some place else.

Disney WOULD say that.

You used that statement to back up your argument about the wellbeing (or otherwise) of Disney+ On a few occasions, so it’s only natural people are going to question that down the line.

By the way, don’t get so triggered. It’s only a discussion between two people with very opposing views.