Twixt (aka B'Twixt Now and Sunrise) - February 28, 2023

[mattc]

The announcement for this release on the front page of this website states:

Special Features and Technical Specs:
AUTHENTIC CUT RUNNING TIME: 79 MINUTES
Twixt: A Documentary*by Gia Coppola
Optional English, Spanish, and English SDH subtitles for the main feature

So looks like its a shorter cut.

[Rayjg]

Originally Posted by mattc

The announcement for this release on the front page of this website states:

Special Features and Technical Specs:
AUTHENTIC CUT RUNNING TIME: 79 MINUTES
Twixt: A Documentary*by Gia Coppola
Optional English, Spanish, and English SDH subtitles for the main feature

So looks like its a shorter cut.

Uh oh. Another Director's Son's Cut?

[Temp_Money]

what be twixt eclusive rental veriron from veriosn regular differences

[Pondosinatra]

Originally Posted by Penti Mento

It's his best film since The Outsiders

So according to everyone on here, this movie is either:

a) An absolute pile of dog shit
b) An absolute brilliant film

That really helps me decide if I want to order or not...

[Kyle15]

Originally Posted by Pondosinatra

So according to everyone on here, this movie is either:

a) An absolute pile of dog shit
b) An absolute brilliant film

That really helps me decide if I want to order or not...

I'll call everyone up and have them say it's shit so then the consensus will be that it is "objectively" shit and then you won't need to buy it.

[Protozoid]

Originally Posted by mattc

The announcement for this release on the front page of this website states:

Special Features and Technical Specs:
AUTHENTIC CUT RUNNING TIME: 79 MINUTES
Twixt: A Documentary*by Gia Coppola
Optional English, Spanish, and English SDH subtitles for the main feature

So looks like its a shorter cut.

I'm kind of relieved it isn't longer, tbh. Apologies to anyone who loves this movie and wanted it to see more.

I wonder what exactly Coppola removed. Was it just a generally tightening up, or did he remove entire scenes, characters, subplots? Did he add anything? New color grade? And I suppose, more crucially, what was the goal of this new version? What makes it more authentic to him?

[Protozoid]

Wait, is this a shorter cut? I really wish there was some proper information about this new release. I'm seeing conflicting reports all over the internet.

The original cut was 88 minutes. This site's listing says the new cut is 95 minutes. Amazon says 2 hours and 19 minutes. I've seen different articles about it variably list the running time 79, 88, or 89 minutes! Rotten Tomatoes even says it's PG-13, which is probably bs. It's like nobody really knows or cares to be precise and are just making stuff up!

My guess? It's 79 minutes, like you folks are saying. Amazon's 2hr 19min was supposed to read 1hr 19min (79min). And it's probably R-rated or not rated at all.

But seriously, we're talking about a new cut of a Francis Ford Coppola movie that already played in theaters back in September. How has nobody on the internet reviewed it and detailed the differences??? Can somebody help me?

[badfingerboogie]

Originally Posted by Protozoid

But seriously, we're talking about a new cut of a Francis Ford Coppola movie that already played in theaters back in September. How has nobody on the internet reviewed it and detailed the differences??? Can somebody help me?

These have been my thoughts exactly - when this was first announced I look high and low for any sign of discussion from back then, and found absolutely nothing beyond the session times for the screenings. Kinda wild that not a single person walked out of those and thought 'Huh, this info might be of some interest to some people' and then uploaded their thoughts somewhere.

[Protozoid]

Originally Posted by badfingerboogie

Kinda wild that not a single person walked out of those and thought 'Huh, this info might be of some interest to some people' and then uploaded their thoughts somewhere.

Yeah, it boggles the mind. I couldn't even find anything on Reddit! I didn't hear anything about this until the Blu-Ray was announced, months after it played in theaters. I feel like this should have been a slightly bigger deal. Maybe Coppola intentionally kept it kind of quiet because he only wants the hardcore fans to find it? I feel like this was meant to be a niche movie, and too much hype would work against it?

Still... I'm surprised and a little sad about the lack of curiosity. I don't even like this movie very much and I'm intensely curious. My editor brain finds recuts by major filmmakers incredibly fascinating.

[badfingerboogie]

Originally Posted by Protozoid

Yeah, it boggles the mind. I couldn't even find anything on Reddit! I didn't hear anything about this until the Blu-Ray was announced, months after it played in theaters. I feel like this should have been a slightly bigger deal. Maybe Coppola intentionally kept it kind of quiet because he only wants the hardcore fans to find it? I feel like this was meant to be a niche movie, and too much hype would work against it?

Still... I'm surprised and a little sad about the lack of curiosity. I don't even like this movie very much and I'm intensely curious. My editor brain finds recuts by major filmmakers incredibly fascinating.

Yeah, I mean I'm already intrigued by Coppola recuts to begin with, but then on top of that there's the fact that this one was shot so bizarrely - he had the whole "live editing" roadshow exhibition planned, so I'm even more curious as to what a different edit of this will look like.

Has he gone back to the drawing board with a bunch of different takes I wonder, or is it a more standard re-edit and trim? Only a few weeks until we find out, I suppose.

[postmodel]

I didn’t hate this movie but I didn’t exactly love it. I think I had more fun with Gia Coppola’s behind the scenes stuff since she got to film her grandpa and we got to see Kilmer in his element just being silly.

Yet, at the same time, this film always intrigued me. Looking forward to the new edit since I just watched this the other week so it’s semi-fresh in my brain. Still can’t believe that Tom Waits narrates the beginning and then we never hear his voice again. Or am I mistaken? I don’t recall him coming back in the mix. Maybe the new cut has more.

[Rayjg]

Couldn't they just put multiple cuts on the disc but with no control over which one plays? That might re-create the experience he was after.

[Protozoid]

Originally Posted by Rayjg

Couldn't they just put multiple cuts on the disc but with no control over which one plays? That might re-create the experience he was after.

That would be cool. Or have three options: theatrical cut, Authentic cut, or scene randomizer where it builds a unique cut using scenes from both.

[WorldForgot]

^that would be wild, I'd love for Blu Rays to start including special features like that

The criterion collection TRAFFIC where you can follow along with the edit of certain scenes and 'remove' layers tries something similar

[badfingerboogie]

This site's review is up for the new edition, but they gave it to someone who hadn't seen the original cut, so... we're still in the dark as to differences. Visually it doesn't look especially different, at first glance.

[Protozoid]

Originally Posted by badfingerboogie

This site's review is up for the new edition, but they gave it to someone who hadn't seen the original cut, so... we're still in the dark as to differences. Visually it doesn't look especially different, at first glance.

Given that it's exactly the same disc aside from the new cut, that review is worthless.

I caved and ordered it. I'll rewatch the old disc and make my own comparison.

[willo007]

Does this release come with a Slipcover, the reviewer here stated it does, however the copy that I got delivered from BestBuy didn't have one and the pictures on Ebay of the product does not show any slipcover.

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by willo007

Does this release come with a Slipcover, the reviewer here stated it does, however the copy that I got delivered from BestBuy didn't have one and the pictures on Ebay of the product does not show any slipcover.

Did the reviewer state that? I didn't see that, only the mention of it in the database entry, which I assume is based off the stock cover art that seems to point to it being a slip.

[willo007]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Did the reviewer state that? I didn't see that, only the mention of it in the database entry, which I assume is based off the stock cover art that seems to point to it being a slip.

I might be going crazy, I could of swore it was stated on the review under; B'Twixt Now and Sunrise Blu-ray, Special Features and Extras
"Additionally, a digital copy is included."

I might be losing my mind.

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by Rayjg

Uh oh. Another Director's Son's Cut?

The original movie was universally disliked, can't get worse I'd think?

At least with this you know you have the director's preferred version the abomination

It sounds like when the movie first came out Coppola was more interested in random playback of scenes and experimental exhibition, so I'm not sure how much love the theatrical version actually got from him. I bet this one will be better.

Originally Posted by willo007

Does this release come with a Slipcover, the reviewer here stated it does, however the copy that I got delivered from BestBuy didn't have one and the pictures on Ebay of the product does not show any slipcover.

No slip from amazon either.

This release would benefit tremendously from a black blu-ray case

ALSO, the digital copy doesn't redeem properly in VUDU. And getting some read issue at 2:58 but may by the crappy external optical drive I'm using