The Brave and the Bold - DCU Batman & Robin Film

[jstxanothrxstory]

Originally Posted by Sawasdee1983

I know it is wishfull Thinking but I hope it wil be R-Rated. Iwant to see a bloody Robin. For me Damien Wayne is the coolest Robin

Allowing more R-rated stuff would help the DCU stand-out from MCU, but I wonder if WB would let them experiment with that with Batman. Joker and TSS are one thing, but Batman's their big name.

[drb999]

I only know Damien from the animated movies. I don’t find him irritating at all. I like that he has an edge to him.

[GarynDakari]

Originally Posted by NARMAK

The Batman in this and Battison being on screen at the same sort of time is going to be interesting to observe because i don't technically think we have got multiple actors playing characters at the same time in the same medium like a movie unless it was deliberately part of the story like a doppelganger etc.

We've already got two right now. ZSJL came out 2021 with Batfleck, The Batman with Pattinson in 2022, and allegedly we're getting Batfleck again in The Flash and Aquaman 2 in 2023.

If you count Keaton in The Flash, and if this new movie comes out in or before 2026, we'll have 4 live action Batmen in only 4 years.

[RalphoR]

Damien Wayne is totally annoying (that's his charm?) but he's not anywhere near as bad as Scrappy-Doo

[Poya]

Batman and Damien's relationship summed up in Injustice 2:

Batman: I don't have time for this, Damien
Damien: A good father would make time.
Batman: A better son would deserve it.

If they get this right, then we have something.

[NARMAK]

Originally Posted by GarynDakari

We've already got two right now. ZSJL came out 2021 with Batfleck, The Batman with Pattinson in 2022, and allegedly we're getting Batfleck again in The Flash and Aquaman 2 in 2023.

If you count Keaton in The Flash, and if this new movie comes out in or before 2026, we'll have 4 live action Batmen in only 4 years.

For me personally, i don't count Batfleck and Battison because the Snyder Cut releasing when it did didn't count as a cinema movie release with a current ongoing plan to keep going. It was the final bow on the whole DCEU sorta thing he kickstarted and righted the changes of the Whedon cut of JL.

Reeves Batman is or was a direct replacement once no further Batfleck content was ever going to come and the alleged cameo in Flash is also apparently being cut/dropped or rejigged, however, what's weird to me is that Gunn specifically references Flash as being tied to the new movies directly whereas Mamoa and Gadot are merely seen as being invited to reprise their respective roles under a completely new direction/timeline it almost seems.

The whole thing doesn't seem like they've committed to a "clean break" on one side, yet mostly all the stuff they want to do is at the price of dropping pretty much everything before.

Personally i hope the DC stuff works out as i've always wanted to see both do well. It's a golden age foe CBMs but Marvel imo has had some recent fumbles in their formula imo post-Endgame as they again, imo struggle to fully establish themselves a future road.

Phase 1 was seen as a bit of a happy coincidence that worked out but once they got the pieces moving, it's silly to try and compare the behemoth the MCU became and the connected nature of it back to Phase 1 like they're back at trying to connect properties with a really loose attachment.

[SteelbookCat]

I would like to see Will and Jaden smith in the role of batman and robin for this movie it will work because the DC has been reset and deadshot can be recast.

[ben6543]

Originally Posted by SteelbookCat

I would like to see Will and Jaden smith in the role of batman and robin for this movie it will work because the DC has been reset and deadshot can be recast.

Good thing WB/Gunn doesn't care what you wanna see cause that is a terrible idea.

[MattJ1991]

Originally Posted by SteelbookCat

I would like to see Will and Jaden smith in the role of batman and robin for this movie it will work because the DC has been reset and deadshot can be recast.

[Mr Walker]

Originally Posted by SteelbookCat

I would like to see Will and Jaden smith in the role of batman and robin for this movie it will work because the DC has been reset and deadshot can be recast.

The Fresh Bat of Bel Air!

[mrjeff]

Originally Posted by Poya

Batman and Damien's relationship summed up in Injustice 2:

Batman: I don't have time for this, Damien
Damien: A good father would make time.
Batman: A better son would deserve it.

If they get this right, then we have something.

To each their own, but I highly doubt Gunn is going to reference Injustice for well, ANYTHING.

[GarynDakari]

Originally Posted by NARMAK

For me personally, i don't count Batfleck and Battison because the Snyder Cut releasing when it did didn't count as a cinema movie release with a current ongoing plan to keep going. It was the final bow on the whole DCEU sorta thing he kickstarted and righted the changes of the Whedon cut of JL.

Fair enough on ZSJL, but if Batfleck has an even somewhat substantial role in The Flash or Aquaman 2 (And he has said that he does) then my point still stands that we have overlapping Batmen. We'll have to wait and see to know for sure.

Originally Posted by NARMAK

however, what's weird to me is that Gunn specifically references Flash as being tied to the new movies directly whereas Mamoa and Gadot are merely seen as being invited to reprise their respective roles under a completely new direction/timeline it almost seems.

The whole thing doesn't seem like they've committed to a "clean break" on one side, yet mostly all the stuff they want to do is at the price of dropping pretty much everything before.

My 2 cents: The Flash is obviously setting up the DC Multiverse--on that alone, regardless of what the movie does or does not setup, you can interpret it as being "connected" to the new DCU in the same way that Doctor Strange 2 "connected" the Fox X-Men and the MCU. In that movie, Xavier was not the same Xavier we see in any of the Fox X-Men timelines, but by being the same actor we the audience can infer that the X-Men series is a part of the MCU Multiverse (And the upcoming Deadpool 3 will almost definitely confirm that).

So The Flash and Aquaman 2 come out, effectively closing out the Snyder era continuity, but we will likely retain some of the old actors going forward. Margo Robbie could appear as Quinn alongside a new Joker, Gal Gadot might return as WW alongside a new Batman, etc. It might be a little confusing to general audiences, but I think with the multiverse already established, people will get it.

I expect we won't know what is actually part of the new continuity until this year's movies come out, because if a movie is not going to be part of continuity they won't destroy the hype by saying that. But I predict these movies will serve as a "Chapter 0" and be a full part of the DCU:

• Wonder Woman/WW88 (Likely dependent on whether they can get Gadot back)
• Shazam! (Only DCEU connection is a very brief Supes cameo that conveniently does not show his face)
• Shazam! Fury of the Gods
• The Suicide Squad
• Peacemaker
• Blue Beetle

[mwynn]

The rivalry between Damian and Grayson is just as important as Bruce and Damian. The other sons have to be there. They can save Red Hood, as Jason is still his one failure. That failure is what pushes Bruce to give Damian so many chances.

[tcripe]

Gonna be interesting to see a kid Robin in live action. Wonder how it will turn out.....

[HomerThompson]

Like a PG-13 version of Kick-Ass?

[j_sazin]

So what are the odds this is an actual fun action flick and not a miserable, rainy suicide note of a movie?

I'd even settle for somewhere inbetween.

[Moviefan2k4]

I think the "fun" aspect of it might depend on how seriously they depict Damien's assassin behavior...because having to reign in a kid like that wouldn't be an easy thing for anybody.

[j_sazin]

Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

I think the "fun" aspect of it might depend on how seriously they depict Damien's assassin behavior...because having to reign in a kid like that wouldn't be an easy thing for anybody.

I mean trust me, I want it distinctly different from MCU type "fun", but this is really their best opportunity to find a happy medium between the brooding darkness of Nolan/Snyder and the Burton/Schumacher city of Gotham that actually felt "fun" and alive.

[GarynDakari]

Originally Posted by j_sazin

I mean trust me, I want it distinctly different from MCU type "fun", but this is really their best opportunity to find a happy medium between the brooding darkness of Nolan/Snyder and the Burton/Schumacher city of Gotham that actually felt "fun" and alive.

Most non-Snyder/Nolan DC movies have pulled this off, IMO: Wonder Woman, Aquaman, The Suicide Squad, Shazam! all managed to be fun while not completely destroying the stakes or being overly quippy.

Plus with Reeves' Batman being decidedly in the dark-crime-drama territory I'd say it's safe to assume DC will shoot for something tonally different.

[s2mikey]

Originally Posted by jstxanothrxstory

Allowing more R-rated stuff would help the DCU stand-out from MCU, but I wonder if WB would let them experiment with that with Batman. Joker and TSS are one thing, but Batman's their big name.

What does an R rating really get you with the super hero genre though? More violence? Sex? Just curious. IMO, the best super hero films are great as is and I dont see how an R-rating could have made them better. Or, I dont see how super hero films that sucked would suddenly be good with an R rating.