Panasonic UB820/UB9000 4K UHD Blu-ray player

[mkozlows]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

That's also why this mad consumer FOMO for HDMI 2.1 is so misguided. Yes, if people are hardcore gamers then they'll want all that 4K120 VRR etc bollocks but if people are just watching movies then 2.1 has literally no positive effect on image quality whatsoever.

Sure, but gaming isn't some weird edge case. The eventual size of the PS5/XSX console generation should be something like 150-200 million consoles (based on previous generations). And yeah, that still means that most UHD TV owners won't have one of those consoles, but I don't think it's surprising that "people posting on Reddit or other internet forums" are precisely the group of people most likely to own a game console or two.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by mkozlows

Sure, but gaming isn't some weird edge case. The eventual size of the PS5/XSX console generation should be something like 150-200 million consoles (based on previous generations). And yeah, that still means that most UHD TV owners won't have one of those consoles, but I don't think it's surprising that "people posting on Reddit or other internet forums" are precisely the group of people most likely to own a game console or two.

I know, I’m just being a crotchety bastard about it because my interests have been undermined by their interests. Haven’t played a game in years.

The point still stands though about people thinking that 2.1 equipment or cables has any bearing whatsoever on the image quality of 4K movies, I dread to think of how many people have been sold an expensive cable or even new TV on that basis.

[Tok]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

That's also why this mad consumer FOMO for HDMI 2.1 is so misguided. Yes, if people are hardcore gamers then they'll want all that 4K120 VRR etc bollocks but if people are just watching movies then 2.1 has literally no positive effect on image quality whatsoever. None. I say no positive effect because it has had a negative effect however, with more banding visible in HDR content on the 2.1 enabled MediaTek chipsets. They've robbed Peter to pay Paul and no sir, I don't like it.

This demand that you need all ports to support 48Gbps for up to 8K60/4K120/VRR is ridiculous. As you said only if you’re a gamer and it’s only a very few that have both consoles and a high-end PC graphics card.

Reality is even the new consoles will struggle with these high frame rates unless you give up other graphic settings. As a PS5 owner I’ve done fine with 4K60 using a HDMI 2.0 AVR. Even though my JVC 3100 supports 48Gbps JVC has said it won’t support VRR and it’s doubtful it ever will. I’ll take my 3100 with 120-in projected image over a smaller display that supports VRR.

[Darmok1004]

Does anyone know how to force eject a disc out of the 820?
Was watching The Magnificent Seven last night and the player refuses to eject the disc. Tried again this morning and it still won’t do it, it just attempts to replay the movie again after failing to open. I even tried a factory reset and nothing. So frustrating, this player isn’t even a year old.

[Scorxpion]

Originally Posted by Darmok1004

Does anyone know how to force eject a disc out of the 820?
Was watching The Magnificent Seven last night and the player refuses to eject the disc. Tried again this morning and it still won’t do it, it just attempts to replay the movie again after failing to open. I even tried a factory reset and nothing. So frustrating, this player isn’t even a year old.

https://eng-ca.faq.panasonic.com/app...8990/related/1

[Darmok1004]

Originally Posted by Scorxpion

https://eng-ca.faq.panasonic.com/app...8990/related/1

Tried it and it still won’t eject.

[B.inthe6]

Originally Posted by Darmok1004

Tried it and it still won’t eject.

Did you try to reboot (unplug)?

[Darmok1004]

Originally Posted by B.inthe6

Did you try to reboot (unplug)?

SEVERAL times. FINALLY after the 10th time of unplugging it and plugging it back in it just spat the disc back out. Checked the player out with a few DVDs and blu rays to see if it would play and eject and so far it seems to be fine.
Thank you to everyone for your help.

[Scorxpion]

Originally Posted by Darmok1004

SEVERAL times. FINALLY after the 10th time of unplugging it and plugging it back in it just spat the disc back out. Checked the player out with a few DVDs and blu rays to see if it would play and eject and so far it seems to be fine.
Thank you to everyone for your help.

Just a question did u open the cover by hand before ejecting the disc drive.probably the cover is stuck preventing the disc drive to open . Glad it is working now

[Darmok1004]

Originally Posted by Scorxpion

Just a question did u open the cover by hand before ejecting the disc drive.probably the cover is stuck preventing the disc drive to open . Glad it is working now

I tried the Panasonic code with the cover closed and with me opening it myself, literally nothing was working. I unplugged it one last time, shook it, plugged it back in and as soon as it got power it ejected the disc. The movies I tried after that all played and ejected but I’ll try watching a few movies just to make sure this was just some rare isolated thing and not the start of a bigger problem.

[Aerodude73]

Originally Posted by Fors*

I plan to get this player in June, but I have been told it is very light, which tends to make one question the build. Consistent with what you are stating, you will want to not only be careful with the port/connector outputs, but the player in general. It does have me question if I should pony up additional funds for an Oppo (which is a much heavier build/higher expense = peace of mind).

I wouldn't be too concerned about that -- as you know, I said the same thing when I got mine in last week about it being very small And Very Light, BUT, seeing as it's been around now for a few years, I'm thinking the Size & Weight of it are just the byproduct of tremendous engineering & updated technology


* plus, the Oppo's are Extremely overpriced & as you know, have NO Warranty coverage. IF you are at all still concerned, I'd offer looking at the UB9000

[dcx4610]

Yeah. I wouldn't call the player light. It's actually pretty chunky. It does have a lot of plastic on it but it doesn't feel cheap like a $100-200 player. You definitely feel you are getting something more premium.

But yeah, if you want something more in the line of receiver heft and solid build quality, go for the UB9000 if you think it's worth dropping a grand on a player. (I've always been tempted...)

[danny24]

Originally Posted by dcx4610

Yeah. I wouldn't call the player light. It's actually pretty chunky. It does have a lot of plastic on it but it doesn't feel cheap like a $100-200 player. You definitely feel you are getting something more premium.

But yeah, if you want something more in the line of receiver heft and solid build quality, go for the UB9000 if you think it's worth dropping a grand on a player. (I've always been tempted...)

The 820 isn't a junk spinner. It's definitely borderline premium. Not like the UB9000 which is all premium but for what your paying it's just a good disc spinner with pretty much same video quality as the UB9000. However I prefer the UB9000 because after awhile just sick of dealing with the dust cover. Personal preference though.

[jvonl]

Originally Posted by mdhaus;20893728 as they are way, way cheaper than an Oppo...which are over-inflated in price and [B

will lack warranty coverage[/B].

Originally Posted by Aerodude73

* plus, the Oppo's are Extremely overpriced & as you know, have NO Warranty coverage. IF you are at all still concerned, I'd offer looking at the UB9000

Oppo still services their machines. Will they stop eventually? Probably. For now at least they're covered.

[Tok]

Originally Posted by jvonl

Oppo still services their machines. Will they stop eventually? Probably. For now at least they're covered.

Yes but you’ll still pay out of pocket to fix it on top of acquiring one at an inflated price.

Nice players but not worth the premium on the used market.

[drush9999]

Originally Posted by dcx4610

But yeah, if you want something more in the line of receiver heft and solid build quality, go for the UB9000 if you think it's worth dropping a grand on a player. (I've always been tempted...)

Currently £799 with multi region mods

https://www.tps.uk.com/?tab_name=MUL...&choice_type=1

[Naiera]

Just remember that the UB9000 is not a good DVD player. It's not the equivalent of the Oppo as far as interlaced content goes. Nowhere near.

[danny24]

Originally Posted by Naiera

Just remember that the UB9000 is not a good DVD player. It's not the equivalent of the Oppo as far as interlaced content goes. Nowhere near.

It's not atrocious it's watchable for DVD but yeah the 203/205 has much better DVD upscaling than the UB820/UB9000. Will most people notice the difference?, probably not.

[drush9999]

Originally Posted by Naiera

Just remember that the UB9000 is not a good DVD player. It's not the equivalent of the Oppo as far as interlaced content goes. Nowhere near.

When I play PAL DVDs on my UB820 they're ok kinda watchable, but NTSC DVDs even if flagged as progressive look like a mess of jaggies. All types of DVD look better on my old Sony BD player though.

[Naiera]

I'd say that's fairly atrocious. It should be as good as an Oppo at that price point.