The Anime Blu-ray Video Quality Thread

[dubudavid]

Originally Posted by Gowho

Which episodes for GT? For DBZ, 73-80 were apparently 35mm.

None of them. GT was entirely 16mm for its entire run. For a show made in 1996-1997, this was actually starting to become the exception and not the rule, interestingly enough.

As for the DBZ ones, you're correct, and you can most easily see proof of that in the DBZ Kai episodes they correspond to, as they look very, very different from the rest of them.

As to why they used them for a seemingly random span of episodes in the Freeza arc, it's neither clear nor can be proven, but it's been speculated that it might have been because they had leftover 35mm negatives close to expiring and they needed to make use of them somehow (I guess there was no major movie production going on at the time?), but there is no hard proof whether or not that's true.

[segapluto]

Originally Posted by peppapigstan

valid, it does seem like Universal Japan doesn't like to remaster 16mm AIC shows properly but given Armitage III's tragic BD, i suppose they just are too lazy to remaster most of AIC's shows in general

Such a damn shame because I've enjoyed so many series from AIC that I wish had proper bluray remasters.

[PondaBaba]

Originally Posted by dubudavid

and theatrically released films were exclusively shot on 35mm, if you don't count the many blown-up compilation films comprised mostly of TV footage that is

May be well known among those in the know in these parts (i only found out a few months ago) but worth mentioning (what i assume is?) the anomaly/curiosity(of awesomeness B)) of akira being shot on 65mm. and boy would i love to watch a 70mm theatrical print sometime if the opportunity ever came up (assuming they were produced? i mean why shoot it on 70mm if they only released 35mm theatrical prints right??)

[dubudavid]

There is no proof that I've found that Akira was actually shot on 70mm. It might have been shot on 35 and blown up to 70mm as was common in that period for many films (rare for anime films but not unheard of). The HD and 4K remasters certainly leave a lot to be desired as they are, even more so if it was from a 70mm source...

[PondaBaba]

Originally Posted by dubudavid

There is no proof that I've found that Akira was actually shot on 70mm

So this video (link timed to start at relevant bit of translated narration so have sound on) is what i what i came across

edit - is it just me or is it for everyone that youtube links never seem to work on this site? it always goes to a generic 'your browser is up to date' page smh...regardless the vid is at youtube.com /watch?v=n2rPM_U8NaM and the relevant bit is at 10mins 50secs

Originally Posted by dubudavid

It might have been shot on 35 and blown up to 70mm as was common in that period for many films (rare for anime films but not unheard of)

i did come across this comment when trying to search for the vid to link which adds more uncertainty/speculation..!

[Tylerfan]

Yeah, YouTube links have definitely become more finicky in the past while. Not sure why.

[sagadego]

https://twitter.com/simonm094/status...88811434860554

boruto has a different team doing discs the their other works

[BigOnAnime]

^

Originally Posted by simonm094

Today I learned that @VIZMedia still use the competent disc authoring/encoding house for their Boruto releases. This begs the question - why the hell are they using the absolutely god awful walmart encoder for their other titles, let alone their big hitters like JJK???

Originally Posted by simonm094

On the one hand this gives me hope that future Jojo discs and other major titles will be competently encoded and not look worse than the web streams, but I have very little faith in them that I'd blindly buy their releases to find out.

https://twitter.com/simonm094/status...89523665428503

[NLScavenger]

Medabots (Japanese version) - Discotek Media SDBD



Screenshots above are from the first M2TS file. As the series progresses, the colors of the telecine become washed out compared to the earlier episodes.


The SDBD appears to be a re-encode of the Marvelous Entertainment 9-volume DVD release as evidenced by the warning at the end of each of the 9 M2TS files.



BDInfo

Disc Title: Medabots Original Japanese Version
Disc Label: MEDABOTS JPN
Disc Size: 49,082,854,416 bytes
Protection: AACS
Playlist: 00000.MPLS
Size: 48,683,857,920 bytes
Length: 21:15:08.632
Total Bitrate: 5.09 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 4505 kbps / 480i / 29.970 fps / 4:3 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: Japanese / Dolby Digital Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz /   256 kbps / DN -31dB
Subtitle: English / 19.817 kbps

Bitrate episodes 1-6

[NLScavenger]

The Rose of Versailles / Lady Oscar - Discotek Media BD vs Bandai BD

Comparison
Bandai BD screenshots copied from another comparison, cropped Discotek BD to 1436x1080 to match Bandai BD screenshot

Screenshots

Bandai BD has additional clean up and stabilization, but the biggest difference is that it has the same high quality audio from magnetic tape source as the Nozomi DVD. Unfortunately TMS gave Discotek low quality audio from optical source. When I popped the disc in, I noticed the muffled audio immediately when the short jingle at the start of each episode played.

It seems very unlikely that the audio will ever be fixed since the sets were released 2 years ago, so I'm gonna have to pray for a UK release with better audio or grab the German KSM release if somebody can confirm that it has the magnetic audio (though it will likely have crappy dubtitles like Attack No. 1).

BDInfo disc 1 - Episodes 1 to 10

Disc Title: Lady Oscar - The Rose of Versailles Disc 1
Disc Label: ROSE OF VERSAILLES D1
Disc Size: 45,478,440,616 bytes
Protection: AACS
Playlist: All episodes minus production & disc credits
Size: 44,912,668,032 bytes
Length: 4:02:31.244
Total Bitrate: 24.69 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 21786 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: Japanese / LPCM Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz /  1536 kbps / 16-bit
Subtitle: English / 38.011 kbps

[mikezilla2]

Originally Posted by NLScavenger

The Rose of Versailles / Lady Oscar - Discotek Media BD vs Bandai BD

Comparison
Bandai BD screenshots copied from another comparison, cropped Discotek BD to 1436x1080 to match Bandai BD screenshot

Screenshots

Bandai BD has additional clean up and stabilization, but the biggest difference is that it has the same high quality audio from magnetic tape source as the Nozomi DVD. Unfortunately TMS gave Discotek low quality audio from optical source. When I popped the disc in, I noticed the muffled audio immediately when the short jingle at the start of each episode played.

It seems very unlikely that the audio will ever be fixed since the sets were released 2 years ago, so I'm gonna have to pray for a UK release with better audio or grab the German KSM release if somebody can confirm that it has the magnetic audio (though it will likely have crappy dubtitles like Attack No. 1).

BDInfo disc 1 - Episodes 1 to 10

Disc Title: Lady Oscar - The Rose of Versailles Disc 1
Disc Label: ROSE OF VERSAILLES D1
Disc Size: 45,478,440,616 bytes
Protection: AACS
Playlist: All episodes minus production & disc credits
Size: 44,912,668,032 bytes
Length: 4:02:31.244
Total Bitrate: 24.69 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 21786 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: Japanese / LPCM Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz /  1536 kbps / 16-bit
Subtitle: English / 38.011 kbps

i mean the German Set isn't English Friendly as per most German Sets Right ?

[NLScavenger]

Originally Posted by mikezilla2

i mean the German Set isn't English Friendly as per most German Sets Right ?

It's not English friendly.

[SpazeBlue]

Originally Posted by NLScavenger

The Rose of Versailles / Lady Oscar - Discotek Media BD vs Bandai BD

Comparison
Bandai BD screenshots copied from another comparison, cropped Discotek BD to 1436x1080 to match Bandai BD screenshot

Screenshots

Bandai BD has additional clean up and stabilization, but the biggest difference is that it has the same high quality audio from magnetic tape source as the Nozomi DVD. Unfortunately TMS gave Discotek low quality audio from optical source. When I popped the disc in, I noticed the muffled audio immediately when the short jingle at the start of each episode played.

[Show spoiler]It seems very unlikely that the audio will ever be fixed since the sets were released 2 years ago, so I'm gonna have to pray for a UK release with better audio or grab the German KSM release if somebody can confirm that it has the magnetic audio (though it will likely have crappy dubtitles like Attack No. 1).

BDInfo disc 1 - Episodes 1 to 10

Disc Title: Lady Oscar - The Rose of Versailles Disc 1
Disc Label: ROSE OF VERSAILLES D1
Disc Size: 45,478,440,616 bytes
Protection: AACS
Playlist: All episodes minus production & disc credits
Size: 44,912,668,032 bytes
Length: 4:02:31.244
Total Bitrate: 24.69 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 21786 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: Japanese / LPCM Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz /  1536 kbps / 16-bit
Subtitle: English / 38.011 kbps

Looks like the US BD also has a bit of a green tint.

[BigOnAnime]

Originally Posted by SpazeBlue

Looks like the US BD also has a bit of a green tint.

There was a tint difference between the US DVD and JP Blu-ray, so I wonder if that had anything to do with it?

Originally Posted by hissatsu

Overall, Rose of Versailles looks pretty good. The white balance is quite different from the DVDs, quite a bit cooler, though the white balance on the DVDs was itself shifted towards yellow. There's been some grain reduction - there's still quite a bit of grain - but 35 year old 16mm without grain reduction done is really grainy, more like this. The ED looks too dark, but it gets lighter after a few episodes (the last 2 screenshots).

01 R1DVD | JPBD
02 R1DVD | JPBD
03 R1DVD | JPBD
04 R1DVD | JPBD
05 R1DVD | JPBD
06 R1DVD | JPBD
07 R1DVD | JPBD
08 R1DVD | JPBD
09 R1DVD | JPBD
10 R1DVD | JPBD
11 R1DVD | JPBD
12 R1DVD | JPBD
13 R1DVD | JPBD
14 R1DVD | JPBD
15 R1DVD | JPBD
16 R1DVD | JPBD
17 R1DVD | JPBD
18 R1DVD | JPBD
19 R1DVD | JPBD
20 R1DVD | JPBD | JPBD (episode 6)
21 R1DVD | JPBD | JPBD (episode 6)

https://fandompost.vbulletin.net/for...090#post434090

[jala12]

Hmm, I've gotta ask but what exactly are the visual differences between the Netflix and JP/UK blu-ray masters of Violet Evergarden? Asking since I may have no choice but to go with the Funimation blus. The shoddy subs may be an issue I can overlook if I go with the dub.

[Total Procall]

Does anyone know if the most recent Manga UK versions of Jojo's Bizzare Adventures on blu-ray are decent?

Do they have colour issues that the viz titles apparently have?

Thanks!

[NLScavenger]

Originally Posted by Total Procall

Does anyone know if the most recent Manga UK versions of Jojo's Bizzare Adventures on blu-ray are decent?

Do they have colour issues that the viz titles apparently have?

Thanks!

They're alright, if you can accept the color issue. Stardust Crusaders part 1 has glitched frames in final episode.

[Memade]

Originally Posted by jala12

Hmm, I've gotta ask but what exactly are the visual differences between the Netflix and JP/UK blu-ray masters of Violet Evergarden? Asking since I may have no choice but to go with the Funimation blus. The shoddy subs may be an issue I can overlook if I go with the dub.

I believe the US version uses Netflix footage whereas UK uses JP blu-ray footage including an extended final episode.

[jala12]

Originally Posted by Memade

I believe the US version uses Netflix footage whereas UK uses JP blu-ray footage including an extended final episode.

What new material is there in the extended version?

[Ikari]

Originally Posted by NLScavenger

The Rose of Versailles / Lady Oscar - Discotek Media BD vs Bandai BD

Comparison
Bandai BD screenshots copied from another comparison, cropped Discotek BD to 1436x1080 to match Bandai BD screenshot

Screenshots

Bandai BD has additional clean up and stabilization, but the biggest difference is that it has the same high quality audio from magnetic tape source as the Nozomi DVD. Unfortunately TMS gave Discotek low quality audio from optical source. When I popped the disc in, I noticed the muffled audio immediately when the short jingle at the start of each episode played.

It seems very unlikely that the audio will ever be fixed since the sets were released 2 years ago, so I'm gonna have to pray for a UK release with better audio or grab the German KSM release if somebody can confirm that it has the magnetic audio (though it will likely have crappy dubtitles like Attack No. 1).

BDInfo disc 1 - Episodes 1 to 10

Disc Title: Lady Oscar - The Rose of Versailles Disc 1
Disc Label: ROSE OF VERSAILLES D1
Disc Size: 45,478,440,616 bytes
Protection: AACS
Playlist: All episodes minus production & disc credits
Size: 44,912,668,032 bytes
Length: 4:02:31.244
Total Bitrate: 24.69 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 21786 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: Japanese / LPCM Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz /  1536 kbps / 16-bit
Subtitle: English / 38.011 kbps

Is the Japanese set out of print? Can't find it on Amazon Japan