Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection Vol. 1

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Originally Posted by jimidini

I guess I can safely go for the skip option, then

No really. I can't stand this. They could have easily used a 32 GB cart, but they go fully cheap, despite the customer paying for the cart and everything else. It's a pure joke, why even release it like that in the first place?

And I'm sure if they actually did any compression, instead of doing what they are doing (NES games take up 1.5 GB), they could have fit everything including videos on a 32 GB cart.

What's worse is that it's the HD collection versions anyway, so they lack content and lack graphical features.

And I even wish that they had not released any physical cart at all, and instead went the Alien Isolation way, where we finally get the game + all DLC on a 32 GB cart (there is no other way) through LRG. I mean really. what is wrong with these people?

Reminds me of that Abe's Odyssey, where only the intro level is on cart. why even bother? I skip releases like this. If everyone did so, maybe companies would get a hint. Of course nintendo could simply not allow it. They didn't allow it on 3DS.

I agree that they shouldn't bother at all with physical releases when they do stuff like this. Either put the whole game(s) on the cart, or make it digital-only.

Disagreed about the HD collection versions of MGS2 and 3, though. Yes, it's true some extra content was cut from the Substance and Subsistence versions, and they have a couple minor technical flaws, but overall they're still the best versions of those two games for everything they get right. I'm very happy to be getting those here.

The port of MGS1 is the bigger question mark.

Originally Posted by jimidini

Let me check.
PS3 version of MGS5 was 11.7 GB.
MGS4, well the primary reason for the insane size is cutscenes. It's not the game. And you can compress videos if you want to. Remember that it was sold as "the blu-ray game" and thus wastes disc space with uncompressed audio and tons of HD videos, even has a stupid blu-ray product placement inside the game, which is ridiculous, because it goes on about 1 time disc swapping, meanwhile the game had mandatory installation per chapter, which took 5 or 10 minutes. It came off like a joke. "Look at us, yes, the PS3 is shit, yes you would love 1 time disc swapping instead of these installations, but the PS3 is garbage, so modern Snake"

MGS4 is supposed to be around 26-27 GB.

Compress videos and compress audio and there you go. They also could fit that onto a 32 GB cart, if they wanted to.
MGS3 has far far far more codec audio and far more content, and that fit onto around 3 GB.

In this case konami shows that they don't give a shit and also probably don't even have the talent to at least compress it a bit.

Reminder that proper developers even ported Resident Evil 2 onto the N64. and thus compressed a game that took 2x 700 MB onto a 64 MB cart. Yes, 64 MB. with videos intact.

Originally Posted by Modren

Konami does not seem to be interested in compressing these games to work optimally. If anything, they seem to be massively inflating the installation sizes for unclear reasons; MGS1 has gone from 1.33GB for the raw PS1 disc images to 3.4GB, and MGS2&3, which once fit together on a single DVD for the 360 ports, are now 8 and 12GB respectively. Even the MSX games have somehow ballooned to 1.4GB. So if MGS4 was almost 30GB on PS3, I honestly expect it to be even larger when it's brought over to newer platforms.

The size inflation is indeed strange. Evidently something about their process is causing this, but I'm not knowledgeable enough to know what and how.

Either way, this obviously makes it much more difficult to fit everything on one cart per collection, especially when we get to vol. 2, if the rumors are correct and MGS4 and 5 are included.

It is what it is. I'm content to purchase games digitally when that's the only/best option, so that's what I will do. The games will likely remain downloadable for a minimum of 20 years (taking into consideration not just the massive success of the Switch itself but the fact that the successor will most likely be fully backwards compatible), and I will be in my mid-50s by then if I'm still alive. In other words, I feel quite safe as far as future-proofing and getting my money's worth.