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DC_Street · 07-22-2009, 06:07 PM

I just got a "new to me" car and want to let the audio system be the first upgrade I do to it. The front and rear doors require 6.5" speakers and the front doors have tweeters in which I will probably disable with the new speakers. The sub/amp are taken care of. I have a 10" Reference MB Quart sub with a 600w Rockford amp. Very good sounding sub, not overpowering.

The amp I want to put in for the door speakers is this:

MB Quart 1000w DSC4125 I know it is the Discus series but that is a hard price to beat for a 4 channel 1000 watt amp.

I'm not looking to go crazy insane on the speakers but here is what I'm thinking about right now...

Infinity: KAPPA 653.7I | 6020CS | Kappa Perfect

Alpine: SPX-17REF

Polk: MM6501

I'm trying to keep it at $500 or less if at all possible but I know getting something like the Kappa Perfects would be worth spending a little bit extra to get. I'm not looking for a perfect audio system, just something that will sound good but definitely not cheap. Thanks for any help

Beta Man · 07-22-2009, 06:54 PM

I am NOT very big into Mobile audio..... but I always thought Blaupunkt made good speakers..... I think they're pretty affordable.... if they're still making them!!!! I bought some for a car back in the 90's, and thought they were a great improvement to the stock ones...... I never had a separate Amp/Sub though.... I don't listen to anything loud in the car.....

With my jeep now, I'm thinking about getting some after-market speakers .... I bought my Jeep new in 2005 and the speakers barely get loud enough to hear over the wind/tire noise when the top is down and the doors are off when I'm on the highway.......

Grumpz · 07-22-2009, 07:02 PM

When I was a kid, 18 - early 20's, all I did was spend my money on Alpine, Coustic, Boston, Rockford Fosgate and the list goes on.

Remember, this was 18 yrs ago. The first break in I experienced cost me all my tapes.

The second cost me CD's and a portable cd-player with cassette adapter. The third cost me everything replaced from the second and some speakers. The fourth cost me everything except the car (and I had $400 dollar alarm).

Man, ever after all the limo tinted windows were smashed execpt one, and I had the factory stereo back in the car, I was broken into, just to see if I was hiding anything.

Needless to say, I lost touch with car audio stuff because the crooks just kept coming.

I guess what I'm saying is, good luck with that. The punks always seem to find away in.

mikejet · 07-22-2009, 07:05 PM

I say keep it stock. People tend to break into cars that have nice things inside.

jw · 07-22-2009, 07:09 PM

https://forum.blu-ray.com/forumdisplay.php?f=102

Heres our car audio forum, you may get better responses there

DC_Street · 07-22-2009, 07:10 PM

I do a ton of driving, definitely not staying stock. I'm going to keep the interior looking completely factory. I've learned my lesson with showing stuff off when I had my interior ripped apart when I lived in Houston. The doors have massive speaker grills factory that will cover anything in them. The head unit will be the only thing visible that shows a sign of it not being factory. The amps I will be hiding where I keep my spare tire (it is going out) and then sub will be covered by the rear cover deck (it is a station wagon).

DC_Street · 07-22-2009, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwbbud

https://forum.blu-ray.com/forumdisplay.php?f=102

Heres our car audio forum, you may get better responses there

I didn't realize we had that, can you move the thread there?

jw · 07-22-2009, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DC_Street

I didn't realize we had that, can you move the thread there?

I would of if I could

, It should get moved soon, just report it and someone will move it eventually

Beta Man · 07-22-2009, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DC_Street

I didn't realize we had that, can you move the thread there?

no problem.

Also.... I recommend keeping a spare.... I have had to change two tires on one day (posted my horror story about it) and had it not been for the first spare, I couldn't have gotten to a shop to buy a new tire, and would have missed my nephew's graduation.......

KEEP A SPARE TIRE!

DC_Street · 07-22-2009, 07:24 PM

my car is AWD and I do not have a full size spare. The donut size spare will mess with the AWD system and can damage the differentials and transmission, I'm not going to risk that when I have AAA and where I drive mostly we have vehicles called "Heroes" that are constantly monitoring the roads, so if I have a blow out they will be there to help out. Now if I go on a long drive out of state or something I will try to find another wheel like I have to throw a tire on it and pop it somewhere in the rear (a full size tire will not fit in the spare tire compartment). I am very paranoid about my cars

, maybe a donut will not hurt a car driving a few miles to a shop but I do not want to take any risks. Rebuilding a AWD drive train can be pretty pricey.

mj79 · 07-22-2009, 10:01 PM

I've been into car audio for 10 + years. And one thing I've learned is the markup onspeakers is insane. You don't need to spend a ton at All. But fron the ones u mentioned I'd say the kappas. There pretty good for what they are. I got a pair of jl audio zr components if ya want

DC_Street · 07-22-2009, 11:27 PM

How do they compare to Kappa Perfects? Do you have 4 6.5"s? Pics? Price?

I know the markup is ridiculous, that is why I'm eBay shopping

mj79 · 07-24-2009, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DC_Street

How do they compare to Kappa Perfects? Do you have 4 6.5"s? Pics? Price?

I know the markup is ridiculous, that is why I'm eBay shopping

It would be about the same performance comparison as a horse and buggy vs a 2009 corvette

DC_Street · 07-25-2009, 01:50 AM

I hate chevrolet so I'll go with the horse and buggy, sorry

mj79 · 07-26-2009, 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DC_Street

I hate chevrolet so I'll go with the horse and buggy, sorry

I hope a Chevrolet hits your horse

Jk

. Let s know how they sound in the ride man. U go with the kappas? If so there a great speaker

DC_Street · 07-27-2009, 03:15 AM

I've decided that I'm going to go with the Polk speakers, I love my Polk Monitor series that I use in my surround sound at home so why not take them with me while I'm in the car as well?

DC_Street · 07-30-2009, 03:20 AM

the Polks came in today! Can't wait to install them tomorrow and then install the amp next week when it comes in. For now I think the head unit I have will be enough juice to start to break them in.

cuhayega · 11-24-2009, 11:15 PM

I accept with my jeep now, I'm thinking about getting some after-market speakers .... I bought my Jeep new in 2005 and the speakers barely get loud enough to hear over the wind/tire noise when the top is down and the doors are off when I'm on the highway.......

picture_shooter · 12-03-2009, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikejet

I say keep it stock. People tend to break into cars that have nice things inside.

Very true in these hard times. Crooks are even worse.

~ but you can go on ahead and replace the door speakers and run a RF adapter from your stock stereo and have a amp installed(if needed) to push the door speakers or sub.
This will turn crooks away as when / if they look inside all they see is a stock radio they won't even waste their time. Also don't advertise in on your block (lesson learned when I was 20 yrs old at one time(then).

I enjoy JBL, Kicker, Infinity, MB

Also since your on a budget, check out PYLE subs and Lanzar amps.

Orion & PPI once in the days was a very , very popular brand that knock the socks out of the BOOMing competition. I think now I give the torch to MEMPHIS amps

PS3+HDDVD OWNER · 12-06-2009, 07:21 AM

Pretty much any aftermarket speaker will give you much imporved performance over the stock crap thrown in from their factories. But i do agree with the poster above that recommended the kappas, those are decent speakers and should be plenty for the average enthiusiast.

I still remember in 2003 when i bought my 02 Trans Am, Pontiac wanted an extra $850 for the monsoon surround stereo package. I decided against it, found another 02 T/A that i liked and saved myself the outrageous $850 charge for an "upgraded stereo package." Much better to upgrade your stereo yourself.

07-22-2009, 06:07 PM	#1
DC_Street Power Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Denver, CO Blu-ray collection:142 Trading Score:43	car audiophile guys I just got a "new to me" car and want to let the audio system be the first upgrade I do to it. The front and rear doors require 6.5" speakers and the front doors have tweeters in which I will probably disable with the new speakers. The sub/amp are taken care of. I have a 10" Reference MB Quart sub with a 600w Rockford amp. Very good sounding sub, not overpowering. The amp I want to put in for the door speakers is this: MB Quart 1000w DSC4125 I know it is the Discus series but that is a hard price to beat for a 4 channel 1000 watt amp. I'm not looking to go crazy insane on the speakers but here is what I'm thinking about right now... Infinity: KAPPA 653.7I \| 6020CS \| Kappa Perfect Alpine: SPX-17REF Polk: MM6501 I'm trying to keep it at $500 or less if at all possible but I know getting something like the Kappa Perfects would be worth spending a little bit extra to get. I'm not looking for a perfect audio system, just something that will sound good but definitely not cheap. Thanks for any help

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07-22-2009, 06:54 PM	#2
Beta Man Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Juuuuuuuust A Bit Outside.... Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:268 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:25	I am NOT very big into Mobile audio..... but I always thought Blaupunkt made good speakers..... I think they're pretty affordable.... if they're still making them!!!! I bought some for a car back in the 90's, and thought they were a great improvement to the stock ones...... I never had a separate Amp/Sub though.... I don't listen to anything loud in the car..... With my jeep now, I'm thinking about getting some after-market speakers .... I bought my Jeep new in 2005 and the speakers barely get loud enough to hear over the wind/tire noise when the top is down and the doors are off when I'm on the highway.......

07-22-2009, 07:02 PM	#3
Grumpz Blu-ray Guru Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Winnipeg, MB Blu-ray collection:22	When I was a kid, 18 - early 20's, all I did was spend my money on Alpine, Coustic, Boston, Rockford Fosgate and the list goes on. Remember, this was 18 yrs ago. The first break in I experienced cost me all my tapes. The second cost me CD's and a portable cd-player with cassette adapter. The third cost me everything replaced from the second and some speakers. The fourth cost me everything except the car (and I had $400 dollar alarm). Man, ever after all the limo tinted windows were smashed execpt one, and I had the factory stereo back in the car, I was broken into, just to see if I was hiding anything. Needless to say, I lost touch with car audio stuff because the crooks just kept coming. I guess what I'm saying is, good luck with that. The punks always seem to find away in.

07-22-2009, 07:05 PM	#4
mikejet Banned Member since:Sep 2008 Location:Los Angeles, CA Blu-ray reviews:5 Trading Score:29	I say keep it stock. People tend to break into cars that have nice things inside.

07-22-2009, 07:09 PM	#5
jw Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Apr 2007 Location:USA Trading Score:519	https://forum.blu-ray.com/forumdisplay.php?f=102 Heres our car audio forum, you may get better responses there

07-22-2009, 07:10 PM	#6
DC_Street Power Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Denver, CO Blu-ray collection:142 Trading Score:43	I do a ton of driving, definitely not staying stock. I'm going to keep the interior looking completely factory. I've learned my lesson with showing stuff off when I had my interior ripped apart when I lived in Houston. The doors have massive speaker grills factory that will cover anything in them. The head unit will be the only thing visible that shows a sign of it not being factory. The amps I will be hiding where I keep my spare tire (it is going out) and then sub will be covered by the rear cover deck (it is a station wagon).

07-22-2009, 07:24 PM	#10
DC_Street Power Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Denver, CO Blu-ray collection:142 Trading Score:43	my car is AWD and I do not have a full size spare. The donut size spare will mess with the AWD system and can damage the differentials and transmission, I'm not going to risk that when I have AAA and where I drive mostly we have vehicles called "Heroes" that are constantly monitoring the roads, so if I have a blow out they will be there to help out. Now if I go on a long drive out of state or something I will try to find another wheel like I have to throw a tire on it and pop it somewhere in the rear (a full size tire will not fit in the spare tire compartment). I am very paranoid about my cars , maybe a donut will not hurt a car driving a few miles to a shop but I do not want to take any risks. Rebuilding a AWD drive train can be pretty pricey.

07-22-2009, 10:01 PM	#11
mj79 Banned Member since:Jun 2009 Location:San Antonio/ Duluth Mn	I've been into car audio for 10 + years. And one thing I've learned is the markup onspeakers is insane. You don't need to spend a ton at All. But fron the ones u mentioned I'd say the kappas. There pretty good for what they are. I got a pair of jl audio zr components if ya want

07-22-2009, 11:27 PM	#12
DC_Street Power Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Denver, CO Blu-ray collection:142 Trading Score:43	How do they compare to Kappa Perfects? Do you have 4 6.5"s? Pics? Price? I know the markup is ridiculous, that is why I'm eBay shopping

07-25-2009, 01:50 AM	#14
DC_Street Power Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Denver, CO Blu-ray collection:142 Trading Score:43	I hate chevrolet so I'll go with the horse and buggy, sorry

07-27-2009, 03:15 AM	#16
DC_Street Power Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Denver, CO Blu-ray collection:142 Trading Score:43	I've decided that I'm going to go with the Polk speakers, I love my Polk Monitor series that I use in my surround sound at home so why not take them with me while I'm in the car as well?

07-30-2009, 03:20 AM	#17
DC_Street Power Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Denver, CO Blu-ray collection:142 Trading Score:43	the Polks came in today! Can't wait to install them tomorrow and then install the amp next week when it comes in. For now I think the head unit I have will be enough juice to start to break them in.

11-24-2009, 11:15 PM	#18
cuhayega Banned Member since:Nov 2009	I accept with my jeep now, I'm thinking about getting some after-market speakers .... I bought my Jeep new in 2005 and the speakers barely get loud enough to hear over the wind/tire noise when the top is down and the doors are off when I'm on the highway.......

12-06-2009, 07:21 AM	#20
PS3+HDDVD OWNER Special Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Chicago Trading Score:12	Pretty much any aftermarket speaker will give you much imporved performance over the stock crap thrown in from their factories. But i do agree with the poster above that recommended the kappas, those are decent speakers and should be plenty for the average enthiusiast. I still remember in 2003 when i bought my 02 Trans Am, Pontiac wanted an extra $850 for the monsoon surround stereo package. I decided against it, found another 02 T/A that i liked and saved myself the outrageous $850 charge for an "upgraded stereo package." Much better to upgrade your stereo yourself.

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