Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

I'm surprised that with a collection as big as yours you've never got more than 32 in one day.

I don't think that I have ever had this many arrive all at once.

I may well have ordered more than this many at the same time, but such orders usually get busted up into several smaller shipments that arrive on different days.

Case in point: I ordered 18 titles from Amazon on Monday and they have been shipped in SIX separate packages and are estimated to arrive on different days. Amazon must love to pay for shipping; you'd think they would be better at minimizing the number of shipments necessary to fill just one order.

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by Vilya

What you are using.

Almost the same thing you are, I know you'll say the Sound System. My Headset is ATMOS!

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by alchav21

Almost the same thing you are, I know you'll say the Sound System. My Headset is ATMOS!

Your TV is 20" smaller, a model year behind, has worse local dimming, worse black uniformity, lower nits, and it lacks Dolby Vision support.

Your headphones merely simulate Atmos and for only one person. Simulate is not the real thing. Your $290 headphones (current price at Walmart) can not compete with a properly placed and well powered multi-speaker Atmos surround sound arrangement.

If more than one person wants to watch with you then everyone has to listen to crappy TV speakers.

Lastly, you stream everything and that means lower quality from the get go. It also means that you don't own anything.

You and I in no way have "almost the same thing."

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Your TV is 20" smaller, a model year behind, has worse local dimming, worse black uniformity, lower nits, and it lacks Dolby Vision support.

Your headphones merely simulate Atmos and for only one person. Simulate is not the real thing. Your $290 headphones (current price at Walmart) can not compete with a properly placed and well powered multi-speaker Atmos surround sound arrangement.

If more than one person wants to watch with you then everyone has to listen to crappy TV speakers.

Lastly, you stream everything and that means lower quality from the get go. It also means that you don't own anything.

You and I in no way have "almost the same thing."

From alchav's perspective every TV and sound system is exactly the same: it's all digital.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

An avalanche of titles arrived today! 32 all at once! This has got to be a personal record. There are so many that I put them behind spoilers:

[Show spoiler]













and

The Kino Lorber edition of The Big Country reportedly fixes a stretched image problem with the earlier MGM edition.

Long Day's Journey Into Night (2018) is a 3D title.

LDJIN is very interesting, it’s kind of hypnotic in 3D.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by alchav21

Almost the same thing you are, I know you'll say the Sound System. My Headset is ATMOS!

Nee comparison.

[bhampton]

Originally Posted by alchav21

Almost the same thing you are, I know you'll say the Sound System. My Headset is ATMOS!

My iPhone built in speaker is ATMOS!

[Show spoiler]

ATMOS can scale to whatever your sound system configuration is even if it's a tiny speaker in a phone.

An iPhone can be a complete home theater but some people want more.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Your headphones merely simulate Atmos and for only one person.

Seriously doubt his headphones even receive height sounds. Probably connected with S/PDIF or analog out from his TV. Even if connected with ARC still may not get Atmos to the headphone interface box.

[sapiendut]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Seriously doubt his headphones even receive height sounds. Probably connected with S/PDIF or analog out from his TV. Even if connected with ARC still may not get Atmos to the headphone interface box.

He’s bulcrapping beyond belief. His headphones does not do anything beyond 2.0 input and processing the sound to Dolby Pro Logic Headphone. The ONLY headphones that actually take pure Atmos and DTS:X without conversion is the JVC XP-EXT1. Other headphones even the ones that claim atmos takes Atmos/X signal and convert them into spatial audio before sending the signal to the headphones

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by sapiendut

The ONLY headphones that actually take pure Atmos and DTS:X without conversion is the JVC XP-EXT1.

It appears even that one does not do eARC so a good streaming box* would be needed as well.

* ATV4K, Shield, Roku Ultra

[Vilya]

Five new arrivals today:



and

Working on my collection of catalog titles as you may have noticed.

[veritas]

People talk about physical media struggling but I would love to see how digital sales did if they had to wait till a month after the physical release.

[bhampton]

Originally Posted by veritas

People talk about physical media struggling but I would love to see how digital sales did if they had to wait till a month after the physical release.

I just ignore the online release date if it's something I want to see or buy.

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by veritas

People talk about physical media struggling but I would love to see how digital sales did if they had to wait till a month after the physical release.

Which do you think is more profitable to the studios?

[Boccaccio]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

Which do you think is more profitable to the studios?

Which one do you think ?

Producing and selling a disc: One time cost

Producing and selling digital: Maintaining a server into perpetuity.

[veritas]

If you had to sell a movie or tv show what are some of the most expensive things you could sell?

Digital collectors you can answer also though I'm pretty sure the amount most of your collections worth is zero.

[bhampton]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

Which do you think is more profitable to the studios?

Disc has made $696.75 Million so far this year while NBCUniversal Projects Peak Losses on Peacock to Hit $3 Billion This Year.

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by Boccaccio

Which one do you think ?

Producing and selling a disc: One time cost

It would be if all you did was produce a single disc but that isn't the case. You need all the in house support to make discs for consumers.

Producing and selling digital: Maintaining a server into perpetuity.

The studios don't because they don't sell directly to consumers. You buy digital movies from 3rd parties who keep 15% of the selling price and send the rest to the production studio. They maintain the servers not the studios.

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by bhampton

Disc has made $696.75 Million so far this year while NBCUniversal Projects Peak Losses on Peacock to Hit $3 Billion This Year.

Great analogy! Comparing apples to bricks!

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by veritas

If you had to sell a movie or tv show what are some of the most expensive things you could sell?

Digital collectors you can answer also though I'm pretty sure the amount most of your collections worth is zero.

That doesn't seem to bother consumers.

For the year 2022 in No. America - the largest market - total disc sales were $1,582 billion down 19.77% while EST sales were $2,512 billion up 1.65%

So now you can understand why EST comes out before physical media.

BTW - it's what the studios think not what a bunch of people on a disc based forum think. They are controlling the market.