Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by stonesfan129

Does anyone here have a Kaleidescape? It seems like a rather expensive alternative to discs, but supposedly this thing offers full 4K Blu-ray quality streams.

there are a few here that do (I am not one of them). They are not " full 4K Blu-ray quality streams." but they are of similar high quality. K creates their own compression for their content. sometimes the physical copy might be better sometimes the K. If someone has the $ and does not want physical copies it is the way to go.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I have always believed it. Quibi was just premium paid content, user created free stuff is still hugely popular and what’s massively popular for younger generation ends up dominating. Heck, Youtube shorts is taking off on smart TVs, so it’s not just young people. Attention spans are decreasing.

Plus, short form has a lot of marketing clout behind it.

there ahs always been short form content and long form content and crazy short/long content. Not all stories can be said in the same amount of time.

[deatheats]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

there are a few here that do (I am not one of them). They are not " full 4K Blu-ray quality streams." but they are of similar high quality. K creates their own compression for their content. sometimes the physical copy might be better sometimes the K. If someone has the $ and does not want physical copies it is the way to go.

Anyone with a PC and a little technical know how can do so at a much cheaper price, using their own collection…One of the other benefits of owning physical content. 20 years or so from now having your collection on a thumb drive sized device will be doable.

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

You are a real enigma to me. You said you sued to be an administrator of a datacenter, you said you used to be advising fortune 500 companies on investments and now you are just a salesman?

Anthony:

Not one single item in this post is the truth or fact. Just wanted you to know.

[flyry]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

An R rated comedy? Yeah, sure. It will do well with digital rentals and on Blu-ray. Long term will be fine. These type of films have decent bounce on home media.

Joyride on the other hand, flopped hard!

Jennifer Lawrence's salary was more than the opening weekend box office. i don't care how you try to cut it, it was not a success.

Originally Posted by Steedeel

But you can’t enjoy them, they flopped at the box office!

i liked the movie for what it's worth. stop twisting my words. and i liked Joy Ride even more. I saw a free early screening 2 months before it came out. It deserved better. I go to the movies nearly every weekend and see tons of movies that don't perform well. I think i was 1 of 2 people in Bottoms on Friday.

[cheez avenger]

Just renewed my Peacock subscription for another year. They sent me a code for $19.99 and I added the $6 commercial free plan, so total broken down is roughly $7.66 a month.

Been watching Colombu on there and am on S3 E4. Just watched one last night that had Donald Pleasance in it a wine connoisseur / winery owner. It was great.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I hate reruns and you go and dredge up these two chestnuts of all the many things that you have falling down from the sky to end life as we know and enjoy it.

If a three hour long biopic like Oppenheimer can become a box office hit in 2023 then I am confident that long form content is just fine. Plenty of young people with their intact attention spans saw it with me at the the theater, too.

If you keep on with this tangent I think I will just go back to bed.

It’s the way things are trending. YouTube on a smart tv was u thinkable years back, now it’s very popular. That very same service now Carries short form content reconfigured for smart tv. We get tens of millions watching shorts and then what? After all, hundreds of millions are watching user generated content on their smart tv.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

It’s the way things are trending. YouTube on a smart tv was u thinkable years back, no it’s very popular. That very same service now Carries short form content reconfigured for smart tv. We get tens of millions watching shorts and then what? After all, hundreds of millions are watching user generated content on their smart tv.

Never has a post of yours been more timely:

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Very few people do agree with me on many topics to be fair.

Short form content is how film began; we have had it for well over a century. It is nothing new and it will not replace anything.

Fluffing my pillows....

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Never has a post of yours been more timely:



Short form content is how film began; we have had it for well over a century. It is nothing new and it will not replace anything.

Fluffing my pillows....

To be fair, it was a perfectly logical question. Short form is where YouTube is targeting the ad dollars. That can’t be disputed. Analysts believe short form will hold 65% of all advertising by 2027. What happens when the smart tv ad income dries up due to that fact.?

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

there ahs always been short form content and long form content and crazy short/long content. Not all stories can be said in the same amount of time.

There hasn’t always been smartphones and short attention spans though.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by deatheats

Luckily short form has about as much lasting cultural relevancy as its running time.

Yeah, and culture doesn’t seem to be top of the agenda for gen Z.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

There hasn’t always been smartphones and short attention spans though.

This is not what I wanted to find when I woke up from my nap!

There is no scientific evidence that attention spans have shortened. That is just your persistent prejudice towards younger generations bubbling to the surface again.

We've have had both smartphones and youtube for a very long time and neither have dented the popularity of long form content.

Of course most of youtube's ad revenue comes from short form content; that is by and far most of what they offer to view and that has always been the case. Watching youtube from a smart TV's app has been a common practice for years. I watch it that way myself. My 8 year-old 4K 3D TV came with the youtube app pre-installed on it, so it is nothing new to see the app on smart TVs

Increasing ad revenue from streaming plans will likely offset any possible declining ad revenue from traditional TV services both of which, btw, offer plenty of long form content the same as they ever have.

Originally Posted by Steedeel

To be fair, it was a perfectly logical question.

If it were really a logical question, how come you're the only one asking it? Think about that for a moment.

If you have to worry about stuff, can't you at least pick something real to fret about?

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

This not what I wanted to find when I woke up from my nap!

There is no scientific evidence that attention spans have shortened. That is just your persistent prejudice towards younger generations bubbling to the surface again.

We've have had both smartphones and youtube for a very long time and neither have dented the popularity of long form content.

Of course most of youtube's ad revenue comes from short form content; that is by and far most of what they offer to view and that has always been the case.

Increasing ad revenue from streaming plans will likely offset any possible declining ad revenue from traditional TV services both of which, btw, offer plenty of long form content the same as they ever have.

If you have to worry about stuff, can't you at least pick something real to fret about?

Short form as in tik-tok style 1 minute or less videos, are replacing 10-15 minute short form is the point. I think that supports my attention span argument quite well. Youtube creators are concerned as less content is now short form and more short short form, if you get what I mean. Youtube is the most watched video service in the world.

[PenguinInfinity]

Movies didn't replace books, TV shows didn't replace movies, video games didn't replace TV shows, and YouTube isn't going to replace them all.

Stop with your asinine predictions.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Short form as in tik-tok style 1 minute or less videos, are replacing 10-15 minute short form is the point. I think that supports my attention span argument quite well. Youtube creators are concerned as less content is now short form and more short short form, if you get what I mean. Youtube is the most watched video service in the world.

People watching minute long cat videos proves nothing. I do that, too.

Attention spans are fine.

Lots of young people watched Oppenheimer with me at the theater and, no, I did not see any glowing smartphones during the 3 hour show.

I grew up watching Three Stooges shorts and my grade school teachers lamented that these would destroy my generation's attentions spans and that we would never read anything longer than a comic book. They were wrong and so are you.

Fear that the younger generations will grow up to be a bunch of mouth breathers is nothing new. It just means that you are getting older and that you will soon be yelling "get off my lawn!" with the rest of the fearful old geezers.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

Movies didn't replace books, TV shows didn't replace movies, video games didn't replace TV shows, and YouTube isn't going to replace them all.

Stop with your asinine predictions.

Now now. No need to be so harsh. Worriers gotta worry; it's what they do.

[t-mel]

While I agree that "the youth are X" claims are as old as people, it can't be denied that tik tok and streamers are cutting into the attention pie. It does seem young people are focusing substantial attention on those things. Of course the newer ones won't replace the older mediums, but there is only so much time in the day and I do think they are culturally much more vapid. The same does not apply (as a whole) to books, movies, TV shows, and the like: while their quality varied, I think Tik Tok is rotten to the core. Their entire business model is digital crack.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by t-mel

While I agree that "the youth are X" claims are as old as people, it can't be denied that tik tok and streamers are cutting into the attention pie. It does seem young people are focusing substantial attention on those things. Of course the newer ones won't replace the older mediums, but there is only so much time in the day and I do think they are culturally much more vapid. The same does not apply (as a whole) to books, movies, TV shows, and the like: while their quality varied, I think Tik Tok is rotten to the core. Their entire business model is digital crack.

I deny it until I see evidence to the contrary. I entrust people far younger than myself with a great many critical tasks and I have not regretted it.

As you have already alluded, every generation engaged in some brain rotting activity that mortified their parent's generation. It is as cyclical as the seasons themselves.

[Lee A Stewart]

[russweiss1]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

There hasn’t always been smartphones and short attention spans though.

Back in the 80's there was MTV where music videos cut scenes often (I can't recall how many seconds) due to short attention spans. This isn't a new idea.