The Beekeeper (2024)

[Martoto]

I hear Sting was the original casting for the lead role.

[CaptainYoda]

This looks like a lot of fun action.

[Just_Discovered_3D]

This looks pretty fun. The cinematography looks like a Netflix Original for some reason? With solid action and a decent plot, I can more than live with that, but I do wonder why it looks not as sharp as The Transporter 1-2.

Why does the trailer take a rock song and slow it down into a "Muzak" version? Statham looks like he's finally allowed to cut loose with the action chops, but the music is working against it. Confusing to me.

[Just_Discovered_3D]

Originally Posted by CreasyBear

Ayer is slumming it and Statham has more potential as a quality action star, ala 60's/70's Bronson, Eastwood, McQueen, etc. than the shit scripts he's choosing will allow.

So yeah, trash.

I can see the point here, my hope is that Statham is easing back into action after Sly Stallone had him sit on his hands for much of a decade, and I have to ask: are there quality action scripts being made into films? I have this suspicion that studios will want to imitate and try to make the "next John Wick" rather than the next great action flick.

Would be very on point if Statham were to remake Bronson's Breakheart Pass, that'd be a particularly poignant flick, which seems to be what this is going for.

Script-wise, this one could have been a combination of Enemy of the State, Bourne, and Kingsman. But it seems like it is going more comedic in both script and cinematography, "John Wick Syndrome"?

[Youre My Boy Blu!]

Originally Posted by Just_Discovered_3D

I can see the point here, my hope is that Statham is easing back into action after Sly Stallone had him sit on his hands for much of a decade, and I have to ask: are there quality action scripts being made into films? I have this suspicion that studios will want to imitate and try to make the "next John Wick" rather than the next great action flick.

Would be very on point if Statham were to remake Bronson's Breakheart Pass, that'd be a particularly poignant flick, which seems to be what this is going for.

Script-wise, this one could have been a combination of Enemy of the State, Bourne, and Kingsman. But it seems like it is going more comedic in both script and cinematography, "John Wick Syndrome"?

Because of your post, I'm now introduced to Breakheart Pass.

I definitely know of Bronson and his other films, but I have not yet seen Breakheart Pass.

Breakheart Pass will be added to my short list of Winter Westerns I'm viewing later, this Winter.

[Martoto]

Appropriately, Statham has the charisma of a wax dummy. And only slightly more acting talent.

[russweiss1]

Originally Posted by Martoto

Appropriately, Statham has the charisma of a wax dummy. And only slightly more acting talent.

Yet he is obviously a box office draw and has gotten continuous work for the past 25 years.

[drb999]

Looks good!

[Just_Discovered_3D]

Originally Posted by Martoto

Appropriately, Statham has the charisma of a wax dummy. And only slightly more acting talent.

Wow, I didn't know wax figures had so much charisma.

Frankly, and perhaps this should be in the unpopular movie opinions thread, The Stath is more charismatic than Tom Cruise. Here's the logic: Jason Statham plays the same guy in every film, if you see a Stath film, you're watching it for The Stath; with a Tom Cruise film, it's the subject matter or possibly his character that is the draw.

To that end, as far as I am aware, Stath's films have consistent performance but Tom Cruise films do not; RIP Oblivion etc, the world hardly knew ye

[TheSweetieMan]

Statham may not be some generational actor.

But lacking charisma?

Yeah, that's one way to ensure no one takes your opinion seriously when it comes to filmmaking.

[Martoto]

Fine have it your way. He has more charisma then a WAX dummy. But slightly less acting talent.

[Just_Discovered_3D]

Originally Posted by Martoto

Fine have it your way. He has more charisma then a WAX dummy. But slightly less acting talent.

How many other actors can act at Statham's level while also delivering action scenes at his level?

If someone made a case that Statham's combination of charisma/acting/action is greater than Keanu's, I don't believe I could honestly gainsay 'em. Could anyone?

[Martoto]

For a neanderthal, his charisma is exceptional and his acting talent extraordinary.

Gee whizz this thread is a hive of intolerance towards dissenting opinions.

[raptors661]

I was not expecting that Nine Inch Nails needle drop in the trailer. I laughed hysterically. I can't wait for this.

[russweiss1]

Originally Posted by Martoto

Appropriately, Statham has the charisma of a wax dummy. And only slightly more acting talent.

Originally Posted by Martoto

Fine have it your way. He has more charisma then a WAX dummy. But slightly less acting talent.

Originally Posted by Martoto

For a neanderthal, his charisma is exceptional and his acting talent extraordinary.

Gee whizz this thread is a hive of intolerance towards dissenting opinions.

Why post on a thread just to crap on it? The film hasn't even come out yet.

[Martoto]

I thought that highlighting WAX would tip you all off.

Originally Posted by Martoto

I hear Sting was the original casting for the lead role.

Originally Posted by Martoto

Appropriately, Statham has the charisma of a wax dummy. And only slightly more acting talent.

Originally Posted by Martoto

For a neanderthal, his charisma is exceptional and his acting talent extraordinary.

Gee whizz this thread is a hive of intolerance towards dissenting opinions.

[Markgway]

Oh, beehave!

[Fif22]

Originally Posted by Just_Discovered_3D

Wow, I didn't know wax figures had so much charisma.

Frankly, and perhaps this should be in the unpopular movie opinions thread, The Stath is more charismatic than Tom Cruise. Here's the logic: Jason Statham plays the same guy in every film, if you see a Stath film, you're watching it for The Stath; with a Tom Cruise film, it's the subject matter or possibly his character that is the draw.

To that end, as far as I am aware, Stath's films have consistent performance but Tom Cruise films do not; RIP Oblivion etc, the world hardly knew ye

Are you actually suggesting Jason Statham is a bigger movie star than Tom Cruise? My God!

Even Oblivion actually made more money at the BO than like 90% of Statham's filmography, including his three Transporter movies combined.

And the sole consistent performance about Statham's filmography seems to be losing money, since that was the case for most of his movies, and even moreso for those he headlines, to the point where USA Today branded him one of the 'least bankable movie stars' a couple of years ago.

I really don't know how Statham has kept getting work (maybe he's connected, maybe he got leverage over the right people, maybe he sold his soul, his butt or both, or maybe he was just lucky), but a box office draw he is certainly not. And 2023 has been a perfect example of this, with the balance for his movies this year being over $ 300 million. Over $ 300 million in losses, that is...

[Benoit Blanc]

jesus christ, are we still on the Tom Cruise is not a movie star madness?!

[russweiss1]

Originally Posted by Fif22

I really don't know how Statham has kept getting work (maybe he's connected, maybe he got leverage over the right people, maybe he sold his soul, his butt or both, or maybe he was just lucky), but a box office draw he is certainly not. And 2023 has been a perfect example of this, with the balance for his movies this year being over $ 300 million. Over $ 300 million in losses, that is...

These are the 4 films he was in this year. Well over a billion in box office. Two lost money. Two made money. The two films that lost money cost an estimated 150 million combined so I don't know where you're getting the 300 million in losses from.


Expend4ables (lost money)
Meg 2: The Trench 395 million box office (made money)
Fast X 704 million box office (made money)
Operation Fortune: Ruse de Guerre (lost money)