Unpopular Movie Opinions: Part III

[dkelly26666]

Originally Posted by dvining

Casino is also minor Scorsese!

But when Ernest looks at that vial he's putting into the insulin, I don't see a man torn by a moral quandary, I see a man who cannot make the connection between his actions and his wife's sickness because no one has explained it to him that the vial is bad.

Well, that is but one example. Also, "Raging Bull" bombed with audiences, and worse, "The King of Comedy" was completely ignored, and was out of the theater in like two weeks. Scorsese often tells the story of how he was watching TV on New Years Eve , 1983, and Entertainment Tonight was recapping the year in movies, and called "The King of Comedy", 'The Flop of the Year', quite gleefully.

There is no question that today both of those films are very respected, generally. "Casino" is, too.

We'll have to wait and see if time is kind to "Killers".

[spider-neil]

Not really a Scorsese fan.
I think Taxi Driver is a great movie and I enjoyed The Wolf of Wall Street but too often I find myself checking out in his movies. It doesn’t help that I’m not a massive fan of Gangster movies. Actually, I also enjoyed Hugo but that was more down to the 3D.

[fighthefutureofhd]

The BIGGEST unpopular opinion ever (and I've had some doozies):

Woody Allen's best film is Scenes From A Mall.

Originally Posted by dkelly26666

For that day, that was your setup.

I know a few times in my life where I watched a movie alone in a theater, instead of feeling like an oddball, I felt darned special, LOL. I want ed to snap my fingers at the projectionist, and say, "OK!", and point at the screen....

Here's the bigger question though: if a movie theater is empty, will the movie still play and will it make a sound?

[dkelly26666]

Originally Posted by fighthefutureofhd

The BIGGEST unpopular opinion ever (and I've had some doozies):

Woody Allen's best film is Scenes From A Mall.





Here's the bigger question though: if a movie theater is empty, will the movie still play and will it make a sound?

Of course. It simply becomes my private screening room.

Scenes from a Mall is Paul Mazursky's film, though. Allen's just in it. Though you may think it's the best film Allen was ever involved with at all, if you wish.

[fighthefutureofhd]

I know it's not a Woody Allen film that he produced, wrote, or directed. It's still my favorite of ALL the stuff he's done. My favorite Woody Allen movie that he was directly involved in directing was The Curse of The Jade Scorpion. I just love Helen Hunt.

[jzbadblood]

Originally Posted by fighthefutureofhd

The BIGGEST unpopular opinion ever (and I've had some doozies):
Woody Allen's best film is Scenes From A Mall.

That's definitely one of the most unpopular opinions I've seen in this thread. That movie is so disliked the blu-ray is practically free anywhere you go.

I might agree with you though. It's one of my favorites of his at least. You got to love the setting of Christmas at a mall with two great actors chewing it up and going over the top.

[Cardboard_killer]

In Dune, the Bene Gesserit tested for humans by subjecting them to pain and forcing them to choose life with pain or death with the gom jabbar.

I think the same thing could have been done with clips from the Three Stooges and clips of the Marx brothers. Simply jab anyone that prefers the stooges over the brothers.

[Walter Kafka]

Originally Posted by Cardboard_killer

In Dune, the Bene Gesserit tested for humans by subjecting them to pain and forcing them to choose life with pain or death with the gom jabbar.

I think the same thing could have been done with clips from the Three Stooges and clips of the Marx brothers. Simply jab anyone that prefers the stooges over the brothers.

[wonderer99]

Christopher Nolans achilles heel is his need to do everything in camera. This is commendable but when his subject matter demands huge, he goes small just to keep it practical. The atomic detonation should have been shattering in Oppenheimer but it was watered down to the films detriment.

Dunkirk beach in reality was sprawling and was packed with hundreds of thousands of soldiers. Nolan doesn't show that convincingly. He always scales back when the story needs him to do the opposite. The rescue boats were also hugely reduced onscreen. Nolan isn't apposed to cg but he never seems to utilise it when it calls for it and his films suffer for it. I say this as a big fan of his.

[Cinemaniac]

Christopher Nolan's last good movie was "Interstellar." And I've seen "Oppenheimer."

[Trekkie313]

Originally Posted by dvining

Potential unpopular opinion: Killers was minor Scorsese. The intended moral quandary at the center fell flat because Ernest is an idiot.

Sorcese has been minor mode after his last masterpiece The Aviator.

[dvining]

Originally Posted by Trekkie313

Sorcese has been minor mode after his last masterpiece The Aviator.

Silence is amazing and easily one of his best films, though.

[Walter Kafka]

I find Neil Breen movies more interesting than Oliver Stone movies.

[sandboxgamer]

Every film Oliver Stone has directed sucks except for Platoon (1986).

[Just_Discovered_3D]

Originally Posted by dkelly26666

Well, that is but one example. Also, "Raging Bull" bombed with audiences, and worse, "The King of Comedy" was completely ignored, and was out of the theater in like two weeks. Scorsese often tells the story of how he was watching TV on New Years Eve , 1983, and Entertainment Tonight was recapping the year in movies, and called "The King of Comedy", 'The Flop of the Year', quite gleefully.

There is no question that today both of those films are very respected, generally. "Casino" is, too.

We'll have to wait and see if time is kind to "Killers".

Is Scorsese then just a meme? By which I mean his is a name that many people know, but only because it is bandied about, not because his films are watched by the masses?

Sort of like Tarantino, except I get the impression that the masses have seen more of his films.

[Member-866753]

Originally Posted by Just_Discovered_3D

Is Scorsese then just a meme? By which I mean his is a name that many people know, but only because it is bandied about, not because his films are watched by the masses?

Sort of like Tarantino, except I get the impression that the masses have seen more of his films.

Scorsese has made a ton of movies. Some are bigger than others. But to say that masses haven't seen his films is off.

Yes, his catalog has lesser popular cult hits like After Hours, Bringing out the Dead, and King Of Comedy, but it also has bonafide hits like Wolf Of Wall Street, Goodfellas, The Departed among others. Shutter Island made $300 million dollars.

He is not niche. He has just been working a very long time. The market shifts, sometimes you make films that don't resonate immediately, he made films in the 70s...and now he's making films for Netflix and Apple. He's been around the block. Results vary.

I love Tarantino but he's only made a handful of films compared to Scorsese. The outside factors don't really compare when we're talking about a 30 year test case and 9 films as opposed to a 60 year career and 27 films.

[Just_Discovered_3D]

Originally Posted by AspiringMinimalist

Scorsese has made a ton of movies. Some are bigger than others. But to say that masses haven't seen his films is off.

Yes, his catalog has lesser popular cult hits like After Hours, Bringing out the Dead, and King Of Comedy, but it also has bonafide hits like Wolf Of Wall Street, Goodfellas, The Departed among others. Shutter Island made $300 million dollars.

He is not niche. He has just been working a very long time. The market shifts, sometimes you make films that don't resonate immediately, he made films in the 70s...and now he's making films for Netflix and Apple. He's been around the block. Results vary.

I love Tarantino but he's only made a handful of films compared to Scorsese. The outside factors don't really compare when we're talking about a 30 year test case and 9 films as opposed to a 60 year career and 27 films.

I wonder as Scorsese hasn't had a hit since Wolf of Wall Street, has he? 10 years ago is ~half a generation, and I'm not sure it had a cultural impact. For what that's worth.

Leo/DeNiro vehicles, gangster movies, and a slew of critically-acclaimed duds (not mutually exclusive)?

Well, maybe that's a little unfair as I'd say Gangs of New York was carried by DD-L. I wonder if his 2002-2013 films were more accessible as, off-hand, I know they were raunchy and violent but I don't recall them being as "gross-out" as his prior films.

[moreorless]

I would say the reverse personally, whilst he's never been a maker of blockbusters it actually stands out how widely viewed and known his films are when he's spent much of his career in the 70's and 80's making essentially arthouse cinema.

Films like Taxi Driver and Raging Bull I think had a cultural impact beyond what you'd expect from similar kinds of films today.

[Blu Lemmy]

I like Jared Leto, I've enjoyed just about all his movies....yes, including Morbius and yes, as the Joker

[DR Herbert West]

I don't mind Leto's Joker.