Unpopular Movie Opinions: Part III

[HipsterTrash]

John Williams new Star Wars scores < Stephen Barton, video game composer, Star Wars Jedi scores

[Member-866753]

Originally Posted by HipsterTrash

John Williams new Star Wars scores < Stephen Barton, video game composer, Star Wars Jedi scores

Mostly agree except for Rey's theme. Immediately special.

[AKORIS]

Originally Posted by sandboxgamer

Every film Oliver Stone has directed sucks except for Platoon (1986).

Oliver Stones best film is THE HAND…..

[scarletlion]

Originally Posted by Just_Discovered_3D

I wonder as Scorsese hasn't had a hit since Wolf of Wall Street, has he? 10 years ago is ~half a generation, and I'm not sure it had a cultural impact. For what that's worth.

Leo/DeNiro vehicles, gangster movies, and a slew of critically-acclaimed duds (not mutually exclusive)?

Well, maybe that's a little unfair as I'd say Gangs of New York was carried by DD-L. I wonder if his 2002-2013 films were more accessible as, off-hand, I know they were raunchy and violent but I don't recall them being as "gross-out" as his prior films.

What is 'a hit'?

Silence is good. The Irishman is good.

[Gacivory]

Originally Posted by scarletlion

What is 'a hit'?

Silence is good. The Irishman is good.

Money. That’s how people on these boards determine if a movie is “good or not”. If it makes money. Everyone has become accountants for the studios.

[mwynn]

How to Judge a movie.


A movie I like.
High Critic Score, High Audience Score, and makes money.

"I knew it, these critics and the audience know what a good movie is"

A movie I do not like.
High Critic Score, High Audience Score, and makes money.

"What do they know, this movie is going to end cinema for ever. No one should listen to any of them."

A movie I like.

Low Critic score, low audience score, makes no money.

"Never listen to these people this is a masterpiece. It will be a cult classic one day"

A movie I do not like.

Low Critic score, low audience score, makes no money.

"They are right on the money this movie is terrible. Downfall of everything."

[Member-866753]

Originally Posted by mwynn

How to Judge a movie.


A movie I like.
High Critic Score, High Audience Score, and makes money.

"I knew it, these critics and the audience know what a good movie is"

A movie I do not like.
High Critic Score, High Audience Score, and makes money.

"What do they know, this movie is going to end cinema for ever. No one should listen to any of them."

A movie I like.

Low Critic score, low audience score, makes no money.

"Never listen to these people this is a masterpiece. It will be a cult classic one day"

A movie I do not like.

Low Critic score, low audience score, makes no money.

"They are right on the money this movie is terrible. Downfall of everything."

I've never paid attention to ratings. I only care about discussion points.

I couldn't even tell you the RT or letterboxd score of my favorite movies.

[dvining]

Originally Posted by Gacivory

Money. That’s how people on these boards determine if a movie is “good or not”. If it makes money. Everyone has become accountants for the studios.

To be fair, the guy wasn't talking about quality but cultural reach.

But that's a dumb metric to measure films. Not only is it impossible to actually measure, but it's removed from the actual film itself. You're no longer talking about the movie but how many people know about the movie.

[HipsterTrash]

Originally Posted by Gacivory

Money. That’s how people on these boards determine if a movie is “good or not”. If it makes money. Everyone has become accountants for the studios.

If Chris Stuckmann, Jeremy Jahns and RLM love a movie, I do too. If they hate it, I loathe it.

[Damon1281]

Originally Posted by AspiringMinimalist

I've never paid attention to ratings. I only care about discussion points.

I couldn't even tell you the RT or letterboxd score of my favorite movies.

Aggregate scores are useless for critical reasons if you are trying to determine a movies likelihood of entertaining you. Best to look up critiques after you see movies and learn which critics you agree with for future reference. Audience scores are particularly useless because most people are predisposed to liking a movie they paid to see.
It's like polls here All but few are majority 4 star movies. Useless.

[dvining]

Originally Posted by HipsterTrash

If Chris Stuckmann, Jeremy Jahns and RLM love a movie, I do too. If they hate it, I loathe it.

Now that's a measurable faucet.

[Trekkie313]

Originally Posted by HipsterTrash

If Chris Stuckmann, Jeremy Jahns and RLM love a movie, I do too. If they hate it, I loathe it.

Living up to your name I see.

[HipsterTrash]

Originally Posted by Trekkie313

Living up to your name I see.

Not sure but just in case...

[Cinemaniac]

Originally Posted by HipsterTrash

John Williams new Star Wars scores < Stephen Barton, video game composer, Star Wars Jedi scores

John Williams' scores for the Star Wars sequels were forgettable. Abrams and Johnson didn't know how to collaborate with him the way Lucas did.

[wonderer99]

Fight Club was a huge step backwards after Seven for Fincher.

[Gacivory]

Originally Posted by dvining

To be fair, the guy wasn't talking about quality but cultural reach.

But that's a dumb metric to measure films. Not only is it impossible to actually measure, but it's removed from the actual film itself. You're no longer talking about the movie but how many people know about the movie.

I’ve read enough from that user to ignore a lot of what they say. So that was on me. I’ve just seen the deluge of people reporting how much money a movie lost and just find it so boring that people would focus on the money and I let that cloud my reading.

[Foggy]

Originally Posted by wonderer99

Fight Club was a huge step backwards after Seven for Fincher.

He did a film between the two of them.

[dvining]

Originally Posted by Gacivory

I’ve read enough from that user to ignore a lot of what they say. So that was on me. I’ve just seen the deluge of people reporting how much money a movie lost and just find it so boring that people would focus on the money and I let that cloud my reading.

It ends up being a proxy argument for quality.

"A movie can't be good if no one has heard of it, and a movie has to be good if everyone's heard of it."*

*only applicable to movies the person either does not or does like, respectively

It's a dodge to avoid actually talking about the movie itself for whatever reason. I find discussion of the films themselves far more interesting.

Like, for instance, the film directors who made the transition to sound best were the youngest generation at the time, like Howard Hawks and Frank Capra. People with more experience had serious trouble making the transition because they had more to unlearn like Ford and Hitchcock.

The one that breaks the rule is Ernst Lubitsch who had been making movies since 1915 or so and his first sound, The Love Parade, is a technical marvel.

[Damon1281]

All of David Fincher's films are great.

[Scott in UK]

The Empire Strikes Back, is my least favourite of the original trilogy. (that doesn't mean I dislike it)