Titanic 4K UHD (1997)

[dalemc]

Originally Posted by blakninja

Interesting. I wonder if the image is "open matte" tho.. can anyone grab a screenshot of this scene we see in the negatives and post it here to do a comparison of the framing?

Oh oh I've got a bunch of these little film strip displays, they are super neat!! They are the full, open, uncropped Super35 frames - so exactly what would've been on the original camera negative (I guess!?). I just love seeing how much image was actually shot, and then given enough space to be framed for both Widescreen, and 4:3 pan and scan. Plus, I do appreciate seeing the extra costume and set details. Just from a fan's perspective, getting to absorb more of what was shot. Shall I share my scans of these, along with the cropped Widescreen comparisons? Pretty interesting if you're interested in this

I've also got a few scans of my 70mm frames from the film, along with my frame scans of a 35mm release print. Happy to share a few here to as I recall a discussion about aspect ratios here a few pages back.

[spanky87]

I bought a few 35mm film strips (from Pride & Prejudice) off eBay that I put in a plastic sleeve and use as bookmarks:



I think this seller (ware electronics) is legit and their strips seem to be sourced from a combination of 35mm film prints and 35mm trailers. This one above is definitely from a trailer since you can see it dissolving into a scene that occurs earlier.

There’s also an Etsy seller that sells lamp shades of recycled 35mm film strips, which seems like a neat idea for a home theatre. They have one for Titanic:



Link with more pictures for those that want to determine validity and get a better look:
https://www.etsy.com/ca/listing/2217...ilm-strip-lamp

[crashfellow]

Based on what i've seen you can just steal from stores and run now in the states lol I also think if it's on the shelf, you have to sell it. At least in Australia they do.

[BrandonJF]

Originally Posted by crashfellow

Based on what i've seen you can just steal from stores and run now in the states lol I also think if it's on the shelf, you have to sell it. At least in Australia they do.

I felt like a thief at my closest Best Buy! They have the mobile pay functionality that finally started working for media. I figured I'd skip the line, paid for it in the app, and then the security person at the front was gone (the idea is I'd show that person that I paid in the app on the way out). I walked around trying to find someone available, then just stood there at the front, then gave up and walked out the door.

I did just watch this - I really had no complaints. Not that that should be a ringing endorsement since I won't catch everything more astute members would, but it was definitely an upper tier release to me.

[yapchagi]

are there any of the online retailers accepting pre-order ? I still can't find it from Vudu.

[tankryankr19]

My Amazon Delivery got delayed till Wednesday and it said it was supposed to be Tuesday. I pay for release date shipping and two day shipping for ****s sake

[James Luckard]

Originally Posted by DigitalDeluge24

DISC THREE
29 Deleted and Extended scenes (with optional audio commentary with James Cameron) (44:40)
Parodies
- Play All (9:59)
- Saturday Night Live Skit (4:48)
- MTV Skit (4:23)
- Titanic in 30 Seconds With Bunnies (0:48)
DVD Credits

DISC FOUR
"Marketing”
- "HBO First Look: The Heart of the Ocean TV special (27:33)
- "Fox Special: Breaking New Ground" documentary (42:47)
- 7 "EPK Press Kit" featurettes
-- Play All (18:21)
-- Story Focus (2:57)
-- Actor Focus (2:13)
-- "Building the Ship" (2:32)
-- "Populating the Ship" (2:57)
-- Cameron Focus (2:28)
-- Deep Dive Focus (2:50)
- Trailers
-- Play All (19:07)
-- ShoWest Trailer (5:20)
-- Main U.S. Trailer (3:59)*
-- Short U.S. Trailer (2:20)*
-- Unused "Action" Trailer (2:07)
-- International Trailer (1:06)*
-- French Trailer (2:28)
-- Teaser Trailer: Concept Artwork (1:53)*
- TV Spots
-- Play All (3:44)
-- "Destiny" (0:17)*
-- "Opposite Worlds" (0:31)*
-- "Know the Legend" (0:17)*
-- "Nothing You Expect" (0:31)*
-- "Heart Will Go On" (1:02)*
-- "See It Again" (0:16)*
-- "Honored" (0:16)*
-- "German Holiday Spot" (0:39)
- "Concept posters and One Sheets" gallery (62 posters)
Special Features:
- "1912 News reel" featurette (with optional audio commentary by Ed Marsh) (2:13)
- "Construction Timelapse" (with optional audio commentary by Ed Marsh) (4:20)
- "Deep Dive Presentation" featurette (narrated by James Cameron) (15:33)
- "Titanic Crew" (gag) video (17:29)
- "Titanic Ship's Tour" video (with optional audio commentary by Anders Falk) (7:36)
- "Videomatics" footage (3:13)
- "Visual Effects" footage (3:38)
- DVD Credits
Still Galleries:
- Navigation Instructions
- Original script treatment (482 pages)
- Storyboard Sequences
- Production Artwork
- Photographs
- Ken Marschall's Painting Gallery
- By The Numbers
- Bibliography

Found the discs in question on this website. So which one of these two discs is missing from the NA sets? Also, people who bought the 3D set missed out on a DVD copy of the film that was included in the 2D BD set. Sometimes, DVD copies of films have a handful of extras on them, so it might be worthwhile to find out what extras were on it for the people who want to finally complete their collection.

I bolded the features that are present on the 2005 Fox international 4-disc Collector's Edition DVD set but which were removed from the 2005 Paramount 3-disc Collector's Edition US set.

They did retain a good deal of the stuff on Disc 4, moving it to Disc 3, including the extensive stills galleries, but they dropped some significant video features.

I also added stars next to the features left off the 2005 Paramount 3-disc DVD set, but later included on the 2012 Paramount BD set.

The features that were exclusive to the 2005 Fox International DVD set, and which have never appeared on subsequent sets are:
HBO special, ShoWest trailer, Unused Action trailer, French trailer

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by Croweyes1121

This is precisely why he’s on my ignore list. I have zero issue with civil discussion or friendly disagreements. But he in particular can’t let anything go once you dissent from him. He’ll badger your every post for page after page and even take his bullying into other threads when he decides he doesn’t like you. TBH, that kind of behavior shouldn’t warrant a temporary but a permanent ban. It’s likely the newer member didn’t realize that arguing heatedly for several pages would earn him a ban as well. This is what happens when people try and engage with him, and it’s why I don’t bother anymore.

Kinda feel bad for the newer member. Being new he didn't stand a chance getting caught in a back-and-forth with him. He was dragged in.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by DigitalDeluge24

Precisely, but let's not forget that he was emboldened by other members who kept liking his posts. I guess it doesn't count as bullying when one is simply cheering for the bully smh.

Agreed, and it should count.

[Geoff D]

I'm still confused as to who did what, are we still talking about Riddhi and starmike?

[James Luckard]

The bonus feature I missed most on the American DVD set is the trailer gallery.

The film had some amazing trailers, especially the first long one. Luckily, most of them are on the BD.

The best one, however, is the original NATO ShoWest trailer (an early version of the official long trailer), because it uses Enya's song "Book of Days" over the first half. The international Collector's Edition DVD set was the only home video release of Titanic that ever included that trailer.

Cameron has said many times that he wrote the script while listening to Enya's albums, and that he wanted her to score the film, originally.

The official story is that she turned the film down with the ever-popular reason of "scheduling conflicts," but someone involved in the film told me years ago that she actually turned the film down because she was offended that Cameron used "Book of Days" in that first trailer without asking her. I suspect they really shouldn't have included the ShoWest trailer on that DVD set, and I suspect that's why it's not in the trailer gallery on the BD.

In the end, they found the talented Sissel, who sounds just like Enya, to perform vocals on the score, but I would have loved to have seen what Enya would have done as a composer. I'm sure they would still have had to pair her with someone experienced at film scoring, like Horner, but the combination could have been amazing.

Much as I love Horner's solo score, I think of Tron: Legacy, where Daft Punk was paired with Joe Trapanese, and how amazing and singular that was.

[Geoff D]

The final result was so Enya-like I'm not sure it really mattered

[sfmarine]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I'm still confused as to who did what, are we still talking about Riddhi and starmike?

I’m still on the dock in Southampton holding the binoculars.

[James Luckard]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

The final result was so Enya-like I'm not sure it really mattered

It's true. Horner dipped his toe in that Irish/Gaelic sound with Patriot Games and then really explored it in Braveheart and the score he did right before Titanic, The Devil's Own, which shares a lot of similarities with it musically.

That said, while Cameron always says in interviews that he told Horner he wanted a sound that was modern, that didn't sound like lush orchestral scoring, and which had strong synth elements, I suspect what he really said was quite a bit more blunt, something along the lines of "make it sound like the score I would have had from Enya, if she hadn't said no."

[PowellPressburger]

I just watched the 5min plus Showest trailer wow they gave away the whole film. Which I get it, for theatre chains and all with that original July release date.

I still recall a local theater having a huge teaser banner for the July release and was the first time I heard anyone was making a Titanic movie. Oh those pre-massive internet period when things weren’t as spoiled.

[PowellPressburger]

Originally Posted by James Luckard

Cameron always says in interviews that he told Horner he wanted a sound that was modern, that didn't sound like lush orchestral scoring, and which had strong synth elements, I suspect what he really said was quite a bit more blunt, something along the lines of "make it sound like the score I would have had from Enya, if she hadn't said no."

As much as I love the score, and I love synth scores / music but there are times I think some of the synth score dates the film, were it more orchestral would it not date it as much.

I do recall when the film was released the amount of press / word of mouth mentioned it was an Enya rip off.

[James Luckard]

Originally Posted by PowellPressburger

I just watched the 5min plus Showest trailer wow they gave away the whole film. Which I get it, for theatre chains and all with that original July release date.

The ShoWest trailer is actually virtually identical to the long trailer that played in theaters about a month later. They just swapped out the Enya and the cues from "Courage Under Fire" and Horner recorded new soundalike music just for the trailer.

Someone at the time told me that the MPAA required trailers to be 2:30, but allowed each studio one exemption per year, and Paramount used that for Titanic. The press at that point in spring 1997 was absolutely TOXIC, the film had already been decreed by the media to be the biggest financial catastrophe of all time, so Paramount really pulled out all the stops to create a trailer that would blow people away, including showing a LOT of the sinking.

I remember someone else telling me that they moved heaven and earth to include that final shot of the ship vertical in the air, as it makes its final plunge, craning up to Leo and Kate. That shot involved a lot of complex effects, and finishing it for the trailer in March 1997, while the movie was still filming in Rosarito, was not easy.

Originally Posted by PowellPressburger

I still recall a local theater having a huge teaser banner for the July release and was the first time I heard anyone was making a Titanic movie.

I have one of those banners. This was the teaser art:

Originally Posted by PowellPressburger

Oh those pre-massive internet period when things weren’t as spoiled.

There was actually extensive coverage of the filming in 1996-1997, if you knew where to look for it. There was a whole unofficial fan website with an active chat board. I was obsessed with Titanic history, from when they found the wreck, a decade before the film, so I followed the making of the film religiously online.

[Uptight]

The original version hasn't been seen for a while...

https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=935850

The last time for the DVD releases...

There's also a "35mm" version on the internet, with this unedit theatrical cut + the extended scenes taken from the bonus contents... the picture is too "crude" in comparison with any other source





The UHD looks great for the most part

It's a shame 10% of this effort is put into other catalog titles

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by Bolty

There was a new member involved?

Riddhi was newer.

[mar3o]

I'd love to have the Showest Enya trailer in good quality. The version on youtube sucks, likely ripped from the old DVD at low bitrate then demolished further by Youtube's compression. Sadly I don't have the international Collector's Edition DVD.