Titanic 4K UHD (1997)

[bmick23]

Originally Posted by Rolling Dice

The only DVD caps available over at capsaholic.com are those of the German Special Edition (2006). There's definitely a green tint. I agree the "king of the world" scene looks off, but take a look at this:

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=1&x...5&l=0&i=1&go=1

There's a pinkish hue here on the DVD and that doesn't look good, either.

I’m not able to load the comparison on my phone but I’ll make a set of screencaps to post tomorrow. The color isn’t a dealbreaker for me but it is distracting, and it’s one of those things you can’t unsee once you see it.

[jala12]

Originally Posted by Matt89

Canadian edition doesn't come with a slip unfortunately. Paramount stopped producing slips for their Canadian UHDs. Rosemary's Baby, Trading Places, Scrooged, etc. all don't come with them. I think the last one to have a slip was Ferris Bueller's Day Off. They stopped right around then anyway.

You sure about that? Transformers Rise of the Beasts has a slipcover.

[sojrner]

Originally Posted by Rolling Dice

The only DVD caps available over at capsaholic.com are those of the German Special Edition (2006). There's definitely a green tint. I agree the "king of the world" scene looks off, but take a look at this:

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=1&x...5&l=0&i=1&go=1

There's a pinkish hue here on the DVD and that doesn't look good, either.

[blakninja]

Originally Posted by matbezlima

"We recompose, shot by shot, going through the film, and I'm pretty serious about this. I don't just let somebody else go through it because I have such a vivid memory of what the color was and what we fought for on the set and in post, maybe all the way back to when the color was done with photochemical film, which is when I rode my Stegosaurus to the studio. These restorations have been on top of our day job, which is called Avatar. Those movies are quite good."

Why does Cameron have to rely on his memory? Couldn't he just pull out a threatre print of the movie from 1997 and watch what color that print has?

[Trekkie313]

I trust Cameron on this one despite my massive dislike of Avatar and the T2 3D conversion.

[fertacrit]

Originally Posted by yapchagi

Confirmed the 4K code works even when you already owned the HDX version on Vudu. Can't wait to watch this later. Turn the lights off. Turn the dolby atmos speakers all the way up! HECK YEAH!!!

Audio is showing as DD not Atmos in my Vudu. Hopefully that's just a hiccup.

[Matt89]

Originally Posted by jala12

You sure about that? Transformers Rise of the Beasts has a slipcover.

Maybe it's only the catalogue titles that aren't getting them? Rosemary's Baby, which was released on the same day, didn't come with one.

Sleepy Hollow didn't have one either.

[blakninja]

Why is everyone here? Aren't you supposed to be watching the 4K disc?

[Rich Pure Doom]

Got my copy today and sampled some scenes.

I'm not a professional by any means and haven't done any back to backs with the blu-ray but immediately when I put this in something looked off. I'm not even sure I can put my finger on what exactly I'm seeing. It definitely appears more saturated and there's been some sort of filtering going on although it's hard to tell exactly what it is. A little smeary in motion and overall has an artificiality to it. Anyone else that's done a more detailed look at it can chime in on what I'm seeing here.

[PonyoBellanote]

Turns out the disc Paramount uses was made by Disney, as it uses the same ''ding'' and layout they use.

Opening to Titanic (1997) 2023 4K Ultra HD - YouTube

[Trekkie313]

I have a feeling some user reviews of this disc are going to be tainted by confirmation bias and rampant speculation.

[JMEANS]

Originally Posted by Matt89

Canadian edition doesn't come with a slip unfortunately. Paramount stopped producing slips for their Canadian UHDs. Rosemary's Baby, Trading Places, Scrooged, etc. all don't come with them. I think the last one to have a slip was Ferris Bueller's Day Off. They stopped right around then anyway.

Thx for the info. Good grief. I did get mine from .com to avoid any billingual business so fingers crossed it comes with slip.

[Rich Pure Doom]

Originally Posted by Trekkie313

I have a feeling some user reviews of this disc are going to be tainted by confirmation bias and rampant speculation.

Huh?

[tankryankr19]

Originally Posted by PonyoBellanote

Turns out the disc Paramount uses was made by Disney, as it uses the same ''ding'' and layout they use.

Opening to Titanic (1997) 2023 4K Ultra HD - YouTube

Since it is a partial Disney (unfortunately) Property I am not surprised by this decision that they made

[Trekkie313]

Originally Posted by Rich Pure Doom

Huh?

Being told something is wrong weeks in advance and unfounded claims of upscaling/degraining.

[1924]

Originally Posted by mar3o

Most "pro" reviews aren't worth a hill of beans. They frequently don't even touch on disc issues.

It’s not like they weren’t afraid to call out the crappy T2 4K. Why wouldn’t they here?

[Rich Pure Doom]

Originally Posted by Trekkie313

Being told something is wrong weeks in advance and unfounded claims of upscaling/degraining.

It begs the question: Is it worse to speculate or speculate on speculation?

[PonyoBellanote]

Originally Posted by tankryankr19

Since it is a partial Disney (unfortunately) Property I am not surprised by this decision that they made

Why ''unfortunately''? I'm guessing Disney did the disc on request of Cameron, since they're releasing all of his movies.

Disney (through Fox) owns the movie everywhere but in the US.

[matbezlima]

Disney also encodes FAR better than Paramount.

[samlop10]

Originally Posted by Trekkie313

Being told something is wrong weeks in advance and unfounded claims of upscaling/degraining.

The caps alone show that some sort of artificial sharpening was done (whether it was ai or not). Fine detail wouldn’t look like it does otherwise.

The grain also doesn’t look great. It should look more organic and refined. Whether that was due to the “additional remastering” done for this transfer, compression deficiencies (the bitrate is a bit low for a film source), or both, it’s unclear.



Edit:

Originally Posted by DoubleGulpShrimp

Just got mine today. My first impressions from just watching it are :
A clear uses of, for the most part, Haloless sharpening and a implementation of what looks to be a smart temporal noise reduction.
Noise reduction gives it more detail than the film would normally have (even in areas where there should be small amounts of motion blur)
Altogether making the image strangely sharp and artificial looking on my 4k projector.
I'm almost done ripping it to my computer so I should have screenshots soon.
Edit: Just went back and read some of the posts and I see there have been other screenshots posted. So I will just show a couple of random ones.



PNG- https://i.ibb.co/9yFkTxD/Titanic-6.png

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Just look at his hand holding the phone in the full size image. Is that supposed to be hair? The artificial sharpening is definitely there.