Titanic 4K UHD (1997)

[vncsmoraes]

Originally Posted by andreasy969

Had the Scandi release in the mail today. Nice slip, English cover, 3 nice discs and no stacked discs (which I'm sure the US would've had, had it come with 3 discs to begin with).

Does this one come with English subtitles?

[andreasy969]

Originally Posted by vncsmoraes

Does this one come with English subtitles?

Yes. But only English SDH.

[Ben_UK]

Is the European Disney release sourced from a Fidelity In Motion master by any chance?

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

Paramount US/CA:


Disney/FOX Rest of the world:

Looks like 2 different versions of the software were used.
I wouldn't put stock in the US numbers.

[Farerb]

Made a new poll:
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=369134

[Scott in UK]

Originally Posted by Farerb

Made a new poll:
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=369134

No thanks

[LordoftheRings]

I'm waiting till the price come down ... Boxing Day
It'll help to digest better. And more to come ... The Abyss, Aliens, True Lies

* You need more than one job to afford this inflated hobby.

[Harryhausen AF]

I wish every trace of these AI upscaled 4k abominations from Cameron could be sent down to the Titanic in an Oceangate sub.

[Pieter V]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Looks like 2 different versions of the software were used.
I wouldn't put stock in the US numbers.

Now my own scan: US edition:

Audio #1
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : MLP FBA AC-3 16-ch
Format/Info : Meridian Lossless Packing FBA with 16-channel presentation
Commercial name : Dolby TrueHD with Dolby Atmos
Muxing mode : Stream extension
Codec ID : 131
Duration : 3 h 14 min
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 640 kb/s
Maximum bit rate : 4 335 kb/s
Channel(s) : 8 channels
Channel layout : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Sampling rate : 48,0 kHz
Frame rate : 31,250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossless
Stream size : 891 MiB (1%)
Service kind : Complete Main
Number of dynamic objects : 13
Bed channel count : 1 channel
Bed channel configuration : LFE

Nothing to worry about then.

[dalemc]

Originally Posted by Riddhi2011

Where are these two pics from?

I have got a whole lot of 35mm film strips from a projection print. I've shared a few here but they may have gotten missed, all hidden with the Spoiler tags. Happy to send you a whole giant selection privately somehow, if you're interested?

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

Nothing to worry about then.

[Show spoiler]

[dalemc]

Here's a picture I've just taken from a book I have showing the original, and final shot of Jack & Rose running down that corridor with the stunt doubles & face replacement. It goes into detail on how they accomplished the shot, trying to match the faces from a bunch of different takes, trying to get the strobe lights to match up between takes and whatnot. Pretty clever stuff.

Also that other shot that gets talked about often, of Rose just before the flying scene - it was all filmed on a small soundstage against a green screen, with all of the separate foreground and background plates composited into a 1/4 scale model. I do not know why that single shot tracking into Kate Winslet has always been so smooth and soft-looking though. Maybe detail was lost when it went through the initial compositing process, being converted to digital back in 97, then printed back out.

[Show spoiler]

[Scott in UK]

Originally Posted by dalemc

Here's a picture I've just taken from a book I have showing the original, and final shot of Jack & Rose running down that corridor with the stunt doubles & face replacement.

[Show spoiler]

Maybe those pictures are distorting the actual reality, but that woman stunt double looks abit bigger built than Kate Winslet, i wonder if Kate wasn't flattered by that. Haha.

[aiman04]

I'm returning the US version and getting the UK version, always my intention I own the US version just because my supplier guy got it early. Weird preference but I like the Fox logo and fanfare a lot more

Good that they keep the original Paramount logo but it's drab and dull, they could've done the same treatment like the rest of the film, at least brighten up and enhance the colours a bit.

[blakninja]

Originally Posted by aiman04

I'm returning the US version and getting the UK version, always my intention I own the US version just because my supplier guy got it early. Weird preference but I like the Fox logo and fanfare a lot more

Good that they keep the original Paramount logo but it's drab and dull, they could've done the same treatment like the rest of the film, at least brighten up and enhance the colours a bit.

Why are you returning the US for the UK?

[dalemc]

Originally Posted by Scott in UK

Maybe those pictures are distorting the actual reality, but that woman stunt double looks abit bigger built than Kate Winslet, i wonder if Kate wasn't flattered by that. Haha.

Oh you're right in this - the stunt woman was heavier set than Kate yeah. This is mentioned in the book too, how they had to replace her neck and everything since Kate's face and jawline were more naturally and clearly defined. Made the face replacement job a bit more tricky and involved!

Kate probably wasn't phased, she has always spoken highly of Sarah Franzl, the stunt lady I think she even mentions her in the new documentary that's on this 4K edition

[GrouchoFan]

When Titanic hit the iceberg, the ship went back, and to the left. Back...and to the left. Why did Cameron not address the theory of the Second Iceberg on the Grassy Knoll?!?

I might be in the wrong thread....

[SCS_Shoug]

Originally Posted by Bolty

Please terminate these jokes before they end up spawning moderators to come in and pronounce judgment

and then the moderators will rise and...uh...salvage the conversation?

...I got nothing.

[Pagey123]

The wife and I are 2/3 into this, and other than a couple of VFX shots that don't age/upscale as well as the live action, I've seen or heard nothing to pull me out of enjoying the hell out of this for the upteenth time.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by dalemc

Oh you're right in this - the stunt woman was heavier set than Kate yeah. This is mentioned in the book too, how they had to replace her neck and everything since Kate's face and jawline were more naturally and clearly defined. Made the face replacement job a bit more tricky and involved!

Kate probably wasn't phased, she has always spoken highly of Sarah Franzl, the stunt lady I think she even mentions her in the new documentary that's on this 4K edition

The shot varies, at one point it's just her face being replaced, at others it's a whole head replacement, they even had to comp in the earrings in some frames because they were bouncing differently from Kate's run to the stuntwoman's, and the strobe lighting wasn't matched across the two shots so that all had to be massaged into place. Even the water spray across their faces had to be erased then re-animated over the top. Insane shot for 1997 tech, absolutely insane.