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Old 12-15-2023, 03:27 AM   #13541
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The only time I've been worried about a disc ruining a drive is ripping problem discs that make the drive mech go crazy, like really damaged discs or bad sectors, some things take like an hour to finish ripping. Too much of that might abuse the drive and wear something out. Don't see how that can happen on just a player it will probably go into a freeze fast enough on a bad disc.
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Old 12-15-2023, 03:44 AM   #13542
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I have stacked players for ages, zero problems. Just helps to put the lightest thing on the top and something built like a tank on bottom. My UB820 is sitting on the Toshiba HD-A35, they are almost the same size. You aren't running them both at the same time so the one that's off is essentially a stand. I used to stack Xbox 360 units also. These days I have everything standing vertically for space 360x2/PS2/PS3/PS4.
my 820 has been on top of my AVR since I got it almost 4 years ago. Never an issue. Of course I haven't used it in a few months since I started ripping all my UHDs and playing with Plex. Much more convenient.
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Old 12-15-2023, 05:20 AM   #13543
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Will continue to use Panasonic for Blu-rays and DVDs. Save some where, in tear on the Sony 4K player.

Panasonic 820 also had had some issues with Alien freezing just for a split second and a couple other discs in the past
Hey that looks like my Oppo 205. I still use it for SACDs and dvd-audio discs, and standard Blu-rays.
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Old 12-15-2023, 09:44 AM   #13544
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They will be too thick if you want two


Yep
UB424
Nichikon KX 400V 100uf
Panasonic FM 3x 1000uf + Wima 2x MKS2 1U/63
Diode to 2x MUR420G



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Panasonic EE 67uf 450V
Panasonic FR 2X1900uf + Wima 2x MKS2 1U/63
Diode to 2x MUR420G

They both play great, UB424 small but crazy...
Kindly can you provide the voltage used for Panasonic FR 2X1900uf
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Old 12-15-2023, 09:59 AM   #13545
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[QUOTE=Travis;21718501]Hooked up second Sony X700 today. First one lasted 4-1/2 years. Got UB820…lasted 1-1/2 years. Annoying.

Search of pixelation Panasonic 820 showed some simile at results.

Thought it was the Dune disc. Read about it being problematic. Then we were watching The Green Planet 4K disc and artifacts appeared again. Put in Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon 4K and before Sony Pictures Classics screen started white dots appeared on the black screen and then, after I skipped to the end, they’d appear when chapter changed, only took pic of Dune. Issues only with some 4K discs. Shrek played fine.

I would like to ask you a question once this happened did you repeat the same spot if it's happening again. Have you tried to clean the lens of your drive by disassemble. there is a work around how to do it

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Old 12-15-2023, 11:25 AM   #13546
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I would like to ask you a question once this happened did you repeat the same spot if it's happening again. Have you tried to clean the lens of your drive by disassemble. there is a work around how to do it

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...ostcount=13107
I didn’t try to clean it. Nervous.

Tried to work on a Marantz UD5005 after having it serviced a few times and not getting fixed.…by the time I was done messing with it, it was trash.

Happened in same spots on Dune and Croucjing Tiger.

Hooked 820 up to Marantz SR6004 (which only passes 1080p to projector). The UHD disc for Dune played fine.

If player is converting 4K to 1080p is it just reading a single layer?
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Old 12-15-2023, 11:27 AM   #13547
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Hey that looks like my Oppo 205. I still use it for SACDs and dvd-audio discs, and standard Blu-rays.
Ooh, that’s right. Now with a Sony X700 again, I can get my SACDs spinning again.
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Old 12-15-2023, 12:04 PM   #13548
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Hey that looks like my Oppo 205. I still use it for SACDs and dvd-audio discs, and standard Blu-rays.
Your 205 shows pixelation while playing 4Ks?
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Old 12-15-2023, 01:55 PM   #13549
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Hooked up second Sony X700 today. First one lasted 4-1/2 years. Got UB820…lasted 1-1/2 years. Annoying.

Search of pixelation Panasonic 820 showed some simile at results.

Thought it was the Dune disc. Read about it being problematic. Then we were watching The Green Planet 4K disc and artifacts appeared again. Put in Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon 4K and before Sony Pictures Classics screen started white dots appeared on the black screen and then, after I skipped to the end, they’d appear when chapter changed, only took pic of Dune. Issues only with some 4K discs. Shrek played fine.



Will continue to use Panasonic for Blu-rays and DVDs. Save some where, in tear on the Sony 4K player.

Panasonic 820 also had had some issues with Alien freezing just for a split second and a couple other discs in the past
Funny you should post that pic as I checked for that error on Dune yesterday and it was flawless on my 820.
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Old 12-15-2023, 02:35 PM   #13550
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So, in looking to make my decision on a 4k player, I see the panny here has speaker inputs on the back?

I've just been using an old home theatre in a box set up (which has been fine) but nice to know this one gives me two extra speakers, can process the sound etc. and saves me on purchasing a receiver for now.

Anyway, my speakers are just loose wire plugged into the old player with those push down spring things. This panny seems to be plugs.

Will these work to conver the wires into what would fit into the panny inputs?

https://www.amazon.ca/Banana-FosPowe...bf36c603a&th=1

(if the link doesn't work, it's amazon for FosPower Banana Plugs)

If not, any suggestions? Is this doable or do I need entirely new speakers?
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Old 12-15-2023, 02:39 PM   #13551
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Also, does this player have a feature that adjust lip-sync in both directions?
(My tv only allows me to adjust forward, not back)

And blutooth?
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Old 12-15-2023, 02:42 PM   #13552
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Exactly. Heaviest stuff on the bottom-although I wouldn’t put anything directly over any equipment with top vents such as a receiver. They need their own dedicated spot.

Not sure what someone would put on top of the 820 though as it is a rather small player to begin with. It needs limited airflow as the fan is located in the back.
I have the Sony 700 on top of the 820 as it's light as a feather.
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Old 12-15-2023, 02:54 PM   #13553
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Kindly can you provide the voltage used for Panasonic FR 2X1900uf
Minimum 16V.
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Old 12-15-2023, 04:39 PM   #13554
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So, in looking to make my decision on a 4k player, I see the panny here has speaker inputs on the back?

I've just been using an old home theatre in a box set up (which has been fine) but nice to know this one gives me two extra speakers, can process the sound etc. and saves me on purchasing a receiver for now.

Anyway, my speakers are just loose wire plugged into the old player with those push down spring things. This panny seems to be plugs.

Will these work to conver the wires into what would fit into the panny inputs?

https://www.amazon.ca/Banana-FosPowe...bf36c603a&th=1

(if the link doesn't work, it's amazon for FosPower Banana Plugs)

If not, any suggestions? Is this doable or do I need entirely new speakers?
Uhh, those are sound OUTPUTS, but not for speakers, at all. This player doesn’t have an amplifier in it. You need an AV receiver of sorts.
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Old 12-15-2023, 06:01 PM   #13555
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Uhh, those are sound OUTPUTS, but not for speakers, at all. This player doesn’t have an amplifier in it. You need an AV receiver of sorts.
Apologies for my lack of tech knowledge, but not quite getting it.
You couldn't plug speakers into the 7.1 ports?

(i.e.: my old 3d player has 5.1 set up in the back but you push down on a button and just stuck the wire inside and it plays the sound from whatever device I have in the HDMI ports)

You mean there'd be wires going from them into a receiver and the speakers would be plugged into the receiver?

EDITED TO ADD:

Just read up on it.

Dang, well that doesn't solve my attempt to save money. I thought this player could be both. I'm back to popping the bluray with 5.1 (actual speakers do go into it . . . was once part of a home theater in a box) set up to ARC and plugging another player into the TV (which seems to set things slightly out of sync).

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Old 12-15-2023, 07:31 PM   #13556
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I know it seems silly, but could a disc ruin a player?

Yeah, the end of Dune wouldn’t even play at all. I had to put in the Blu-ray. I ordered a new copy of Dune. We’ll see how that goes.

Not sure if it’s even worth sending Panasonic in to get fixed. I remember when my first Sony broke they want it way too much to fix it.
Those Dune discs are garbage and Arrow never took responsibility for it. My Dune disc always choked during that flying scene in the screenshot above on my Sony X800. Xbox One couldn't load the disc at all. I went round and round with Arrow for a replacement. Got denied two times. Got approved two times. They never actually sent me a replacement though and they swept the whole thing under the rug after initial comments that they had a bad or damaged batch.

Later I got it to play correctly in a LG UBKM9 and Panasonic UB820. For some reason it only likes to play well in a Dolby Vision player for me.

I have had the pixelation problem in my Panasonic UB820 on other discs but the same problem was repeatable in other players as well. I wish I could be one of the many users on this forum that always chime in that they watch hundreds of 4K discs a year and never have a problem. Wiping/cleaning discs has never worked for me either. I think this is just a sensitive format both on the discs and player side.
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Apologies for my lack of tech knowledge, but not quite getting it.
You couldn't plug speakers into the 7.1 ports?

(i.e.: my old 3d player has 5.1 set up in the back but you push down on a button and just stuck the wire inside and it plays the sound from whatever device I have in the HDMI ports)

You mean there'd be wires going from them into a receiver and the speakers would be plugged into the receiver?

EDITED TO ADD:

Just read up on it.

Dang, well that doesn't solve my attempt to save money. I thought this player could be both. I'm back to popping the bluray with 5.1 (actual speakers do go into it . . . was once part of a home theater in a box) set up to ARC and plugging another player into the TV (which seems to set things slightly out of sync).
Or you could buy a cheap amplifier on Amazon for two speakers only front let's say for example. In this case u can use your player as decoding for two channels and your speakers will be connected to amplifier
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Apologies for my lack of tech knowledge, but not quite getting it.
You couldn't plug speakers into the 7.1 ports?
Speakers need amplification. The UB820 doesn't have that; most DVD, Blu-ray and UHD Blu-ray players don't. There's some very general knowledge about AV and hi-fi you're missing.
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Old 12-15-2023, 08:36 PM   #13559
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A home theater in a box system should still have an amp, unless you are running powered speakers than the amp is in one of the stereo speakers probably. I never got the point of the multi-channel outs on these players, back in the day it was if your amp couldn't decode the formats, and I used to use the multi-channel outs on my first HD DVD player because it decoded TrueHD and my amp didn't. But my amp did have the 5.1 inputs so I was able to take advantage of it. Any new entry 5.1 amp is going to to everything except Atmos/DTS:X. My current amp doesn't even have multi-channel inputs anymore.
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Those Dune discs are garbage and Arrow never took responsibility for it. My Dune disc always choked during that flying scene in the screenshot above on my Sony X800. Xbox One couldn't load the disc at all. I went round and round with Arrow for a replacement. Got denied two times. Got approved two times. They never actually sent me a replacement though and they swept the whole thing under the rug after initial comments that they had a bad or damaged batch.

Later I got it to play correctly in a LG UBKM9 and Panasonic UB820. For some reason it only likes to play well in a Dolby Vision player for me.

I have had the pixelation problem in my Panasonic UB820 on other discs but the same problem was repeatable in other players as well. I wish I could be one of the many users on this forum that always chime in that they watch hundreds of 4K discs a year and never have a problem. Wiping/cleaning discs has never worked for me either. I think this is just a sensitive format both on the discs and player side.
Not having luck with 4K. Final scene of Crouching Tiger on Sony X700 had audio drop and froze on Zhang Ziyi before asking if Chow Yun Fat had died. Took the disc out, looked, nothing, then played again, same. On 820, when fast forwarding no pic there, just black screen.Tried again in Sony and played fine.

Took out Shrek…disc; covered in oil. Cleaned it. Played fine so far, will finish it today. Discs are breaking my heart.
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