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Old 04-04-2024, 06:09 AM   #1
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If you are talking about Le cercle rouge I believe they did and it probably suffers from the same colour regrading that made the 4K unpopular. The original Criterion BD sells for a lot more than the 4k with BD combo.
They did use the same 4K restoration for the Blu-ray. I believe this isn't very common of Criterion and I'm sure there are many releases that still utilized the older remasters (Branded to Kill was a title that I found to have copy/paste the original BD for the 4K release). I don't know which ones do and which ones do not but I can't imagine a precise reason (Le Cercle Rouge is an OOP title before the 4K came out which is probably why they utilized a new edition for the Blu-ray).

With that said, the original Blu-ray does NOT sell a lot more than the 4K. Bought the older remaster BD about a year or two ago for around the $20 price that it would've gone for the B&N sale. You can still find it at the $20 price. To find a new, unsealed copy will obviously cost you much more to the point it's not worth cashing in for.

I was actually a bit disappointed with the older remaster. Colors didn't look all that amazing and grain and clarity was not so pleasing to me. Planning to buy the 4K UHD next sale to see how it stands up against the older remaster. I may be in that minority who may end up preferring the 4K restoration over the HD remaster, Ritrovata grading and all.
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They did use the same 4K restoration for the Blu-ray. I believe this isn't very common of Criterion and I'm sure there are many releases that still utilized the older remasters (Branded to Kill was a title that I found to have copy/paste the original BD for the 4K release). I don't know which ones do and which ones do not but I can't imagine a precise reason (Le Cercle Rouge is an OOP title before the 4K came out which is probably why they utilized a new edition for the Blu-ray).

With that said, the original Blu-ray does NOT sell a lot more than the 4K. Bought the older remaster BD about a year or two ago for around the $20 price that it would've gone for the B&N sale. You can still find it at the $20 price. To find a new, unsealed copy will obviously cost you much more to the point it's not worth cashing in for.

I was actually a bit disappointed with the older remaster. Colors didn't look all that amazing and grain and clarity was not so pleasing to me. Planning to buy the 4K UHD next sale to see how it stands up against the older remaster. I may be in that minority who may end up preferring the 4K restoration over the HD remaster, Ritrovata grading and all.
I've been keeping track at sealed, new prices but only out of curiosity. I do have the UK version that came in a Melville boxset. It has a similarly cold colour grading to the original Criterion.

I would not rate the transfer as amazing but it is good enough to keep using it. I would have bought the 4K if it wasn't for the changes. I am one of those persons

if the colour changes weren't that extreme I would have bought the 4K . I am hoping they don't do the same with Le Samurai.
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If the colour changes weren't that extreme I would have bought the 4K . I am hoping they don't do the same with Le Samurai.
You can go ahead and see for yourself about where you stand on the 4K restoration.

A French 4K UHD came out back in November and people have been saying good stuff about it so far. Color wise, you won't be disappointed.

We can probably expect 4Ks of Le Deuxieme Souffle and L'Armee des Ombres sometime soon as well. Criterion owns both so maybe a 2025-2026 release date for those two.
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They did use the same 4K restoration for the Blu-ray. I believe this isn't very common of Criterion and I'm sure there are many releases that still utilized the older remasters (Branded to Kill was a title that I found to have copy/paste the original BD for the 4K release). I don't know which ones do and which ones do not but I can't imagine a precise reason (Le Cercle Rouge is an OOP title before the 4K came out which is probably why they utilized a new edition for the Blu-ray).
Based on the UK thread, Days of Heaven retained the exact same disc from a decade and a half ago, one of the early Criterion BDs that isn’t unlockable with the top menu trick.
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