Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Boccaccio]

I just bought the 4K disc of True Lies today and immediately watched it to see what all the commotion was about.
It's certainly an adjustment watching the movie this clean.

Did it have problematic scenes ? Sure
Did some of the faces have a weird shiny look to them ? Yes
Was the tinkering necessary ? I don't think so.

Faces from further away were more problematic than the close-ups imo.

But this was far from the disaster I expected it to be. And definitely not unwatchable.
I'll just swap the BD in it with the Spanish BD and keep those two but honestly, I think I'll go with the 4K from now on.

[cheez avenger]

Catching Furiosa in Dolby Cinema tonight. Watched Fury Road on 4K disc last night.

[bhampton]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

https://help.netflix.com/en/node/23931

Some versions of the NF app allow downloads and more of the newer ones do not. I know there is a NF app for Meta Quest VR headsets but it is terrible compared to loading the NF Android Phone version which can be done if you know how. (Sideloaded)

I really wouldn't mind online movies if they came as downloads at full quality even if there was some type of DRM.

Thankfully I still find new things on disc and that's even better.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Boccaccio

I just bought the 4K disc of True Lies today and immediately watched it to see what all the commotion was about.
It's certainly an adjustment watching the movie this clean.

Did it have problematic scenes ? Sure
Did some of the faces have a weird shiny look to them ? Yes
Was the tinkering necessary ? I don't think so.

Faces from further away were more problematic than the close-ups imo.

But this was far from the disaster I expected it to be. And definitely not unwatchable.
I'll just swap the BD in it with the Spanish BD and keep those two but honestly, I think I'll go with the 4K from now on.

The relevant 4K thread made it sound like an interlaced non anamorphic video master from the DVD era, you and I know very different having both bought it.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

Look people could rent films from the dawn of home media, people could rent music a lot longer and libraries have existed for many centuries. Some people don't care about owning anything, some people want to own their content. It is a story as old as time. You can choose to dismiss those facts or accept them. It is not about a version of the future, but the reality of human nature.

Where are all the disc collectors then Anthony? Disc sales are falling off a cliff and digital sales flatlined.

[russweiss1]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Where are all the disc collectors then Anthony? Disc sales are falling off a cliff and digital sales flatlined.

Discs are increasing in price which is a big factor. If I weren't old with most of my big dollar items paid off (cars, house, kid moved out) I wouldn't be able to buy all the titles I currently do. My wife and I went to Jack in the Box today for the first time in about 4 years. We had a couple of coupons which dropped the price to $28 but it would have been $40 without them. I couldn't believe that the prices basically doubled in just 4 years time. I feel bad for the younger generations. The average rent for a house my size is about double what my mortgage was.

[alchav21]

Hi guys I have been on the move, April Cruising the California Coast and May in Boston for a Graduation from the University, Then my Grandnephew is going to Harvard Law School. Great time in Boston even went to Cape Cod...Lobster Rolls! All this funded partly with my Nvidia Stock...Its Spitting, SuperMicro is not doing bad either!

You guys are still with your Discs....Watched Atlas last night with Jennifer Lopez, I thought it was a good Movie...AI Gone Wrong!

[Boccaccio]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

The relevant 4K thread made it sound like an interlaced non anamorphic video master from the DVD era, you and I know very different having both bought it.

Exactly, when I was following that thread with almost 5.500 !!! replies, I thought I had to be ready for some atrocity that I would turn off after 10 minutes.
Thankfully, that was not the case. It does have issues though.
But the more problematic scenes are few and far between. Some scenes even looked great.
Have yet to see The Abyss but if True Lies is the worst of the Cameron bunch then I'm not too worried.

[Boccaccio]

Originally Posted by alchav21

Hi guys I have been on the move, April Cruising the California Coast and May in Boston for a Graduation from the University, Then my Grandnephew is going to Harvard Law School. Great time in Boston even went to Cape Cod...Lobster Rolls! All this funded partly with my Nvidia Stock...Its Spitting, SuperMicro is not doing bad either!

You guys are still with your Discs....Watched Atlas last night with Jennifer Lopez, I thought it was a good Movie...AI Gone Wrong!

Hope you had a nice trip. Sounds good.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Boccaccio

Exactly, when I was following that thread with almost 5.500 !!! replies, I thought I had to be ready for some atrocity that I would turn off after 10 minutes.
Thankfully, that was not the case. It does have issues though.
But the more problematic scenes are few and far between. Some scenes even looked great.
Have yet to see The Abyss but if True Lies is the worst of the Cameron bunch then I'm not too worried.

The Abyss is the best of the three.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by alchav21

Hi guys I have been on the move, April Cruising the California Coast and May in Boston for a Graduation from the University, Then my Grandnephew is going to Harvard Law School. Great time in Boston even went to Cape Cod...Lobster Rolls! All this funded partly with my Nvidia Stock...Its Spitting, SuperMicro is not doing bad either!

You guys are still with your Discs....Watched Atlas last night with Jennifer Lopez, I thought it was a good Movie...AI Gone Wrong!

You thought we would switch to digital while you were on vacation?

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by russweiss1

Discs are increasing in price which is a big factor. If I weren't old with most of my big dollar items paid off (cars, house, kid moved out) I wouldn't be able to buy all the titles I currently do. My wife and I went to Jack in the Box today for the first time in about 4 years. We had a couple of coupons which dropped the price to $28 but it would have been $40 without them. I couldn't believe that the prices basically doubled in just 4 years time. I feel bad for the younger generations. The average rent for a house my size is about double what my mortgage was.

Yes, but disc prices are increasing for a good reason, we all know what that is.

I just don’t see another ownership market in the future when people are becoming accustomed to streaming buffets. The value proposition isn’t there for average Joe. Heck, young people don’t even own their own homes generally these days.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

Catching Furiosa in Dolby Cinema tonight. Watched Fury Road on 4K disc last night.

Enjoy, I’m seeing it this week, almost guaranteed to buy the 4K disc also.

[russweiss1]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Yes, but disc prices are increasing for a good reason, we all know what that is.

I just don’t see another ownership market in the future when people are becoming accustomed to streaming buffets. The value proposition isn’t there for average Joe. Heck, young people don’t even own their own homes generally these days.

My main point was that life in general is currently so expensive that the average (especially younger) person can't afford to spend money on discs.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by russweiss1

My main point was that life in general is currently so expensive that the average (especially younger) person can't afford to spend money on discs.

But they can afford several streaming subscriptions.

[russweiss1]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

But they can afford several streaming subscriptions.

Streaming is a lot cheaper. I only pay for Netflix and Prime but the monthly cost is less than one UHD. I spend about 25X more on physical media each month.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by bhampton

Some versions of the NF app allow downloads and more of the newer ones do not. I know there is a NF app for Meta Quest VR headsets but it is terrible compared to loading the NF Android Phone version which can be done if you know how. (Sideloaded)

I really wouldn't mind online movies if they came as downloads at full quality even if there was some type of DRM.

I don't know how people use NF, I just posted it here because if someone uses their laptop with DL movies to watch later they might want to avoid (if possible) "upgrading" their NF app.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Where are all the disc collectors then Anthony? Disc sales are falling off a cliff and digital sales flatlined.

1) a lot of people are looking at sales numbers from back in the day at the height of DVD and assume the numbers are c0omparable. They are not those numbers also included a lot of copies sold to rental places. Something that has actually collapsed, and is still collapsing

2) I pointed out before, there are people that bought films back in the day because you could often find them in the bins for almost the cost of a rental and you never had to bother going to get the rental and then bring it back. So for people that are not collectors and are just looking for an easy time waste getting the most out of that subscription streaming makes sense and it does mean there is no longer the need to go out nd buy those cheapies as backups.

3) the question is not if they are "falling off a cliff" or "flatline" but will it go down to 0. I think it will continue to go down a bit, but at some point that will stop. Don't get me wrong it is probably not good for studios that the market will shrink. But that just means they will need to work harder (make sure there are enough films coming out to get Anthony's, Steed's.... money to make back some of the loss from Tom, Dick and Harry that occasionally bought when it was a good deal.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by russweiss1

Discs are increasing in price which is a big factor. If I weren't old with most of my big dollar items paid off (cars, house, kid moved out) I wouldn't be able to buy all the titles I currently do. My wife and I went to Jack in the Box today for the first time in about 4 years. We had a couple of coupons which dropped the price to $28 but it would have been $40 without them. I couldn't believe that the prices basically doubled in just 4 years time. I feel bad for the younger generations. The average rent for a house my size is about double what my mortgage was.

yeah, movie deals on physical media are not as often or as good and prices have gone up a bit but no where near what everything else has seen as inflation. Unfortunately there is only one pocket.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by alchav21

Hi guys I have been on the move, April Cruising the California Coast and May in Boston for a Graduation from the University, Then my Grandnephew is going to Harvard Law School. Great time in Boston even went to Cape Cod...Lobster Rolls!

glad you had fun. I have not been to Boston in Many years. My dad used to have a buddy down there so as a kid we would viste them every 2-3 years. It is a nice place.

You guys are still with your Discs...

yup that is the nice thing about physical media once bought you can keep on watching them, no need to spend again next month, next year or next decade on it again