Jurassic World Dominion 3D Blu-ray (2022) [Region Free]

[Smallfoot]

Originally Posted by xootoo

But I guess it will take some time till the next 3D wave, given that the first wave was started just a few days ago. From what I heard they are planing in waves of 3 titles, given they sell enough copies to make this work.

I'm curious which support Turbine will get from studios other than Universal. There are still so many unreleased 3D-Titles from Disney, WB, Sony, not to forget the latest James Bond from MGM, which is now Amazon I guess.

[DarthLaser]

Originally Posted by grazina31

Since it's a different encode, can you comment on the decision to not use a full atmos track or the dts:x from the 2D edition.

The disc is packed to the teeth. DTS:X or TrueHD take up too much bandwith and would not have fit this 3D disc without sacrificing video quality. The Atmos mix is still the original mix by Universal used in theatres. We encoded it in DD+ for the project - this has nothing to do with what streaming services do. We wanted to have the Atmos mix on the disc and found a way to make it work. Whenever a TrueHD Atmos fits a project we'll make use of that.

[cdx47]

Originally Posted by DarthLaser

The disc is packed to the teeth. DTS:X or TrueHD take up too much bandwith and would not have fit this 3D disc without sacrificing video quality. The Atmos mix is still the original mix by Universal used in theatres. We encoded it in DD+ for the project - this has nothing to do with what streaming services do. We wanted to have the Atmos mix on the disc and found a way to make it work. Whenever a TrueHD Atmos fits a project we'll make use of that.

Thanks for the clear explanation. It's a shame but DD+ Atmos is better than no Atmos at all

[BLMN]

My order with all 3 has been delivered, Northeast US. It was kinda fast

[swervin]

Originally Posted by BLMN

My order with all 3 has been delivered, Northeast US. It was kinda fast

As was mine just a few minutes ago here in the Southeast US. I agree pretty fast considering it came from Germany.

[grazina31]

Originally Posted by xootoo

They said in an interview that they announce all their physical media releases shortly before they are available.

I must say I really like this. It was a mere few weeks since these 3 titles announced, to them being in my hand.

Originally Posted by Smallfoot

...not to forget the latest James Bond from MGM, which is now Amazon I guess.

I believe that No Time To Die is still being distributed by Universal, so that might bode well for us regarding a 3D physical release. I'm actually hoping that everything that is available from Universal on the Apple Vision Pro, is licensable to Turbine. We'll be having releases for months to come.

[cdx47]

Originally Posted by Krobar

Will be interesting to hear your thoughts; I already have the 4K so will mux the DTS:X onto the same file (If I can time align them).

I was lucky enough recently to pick up an very cheap used copy of the blu-ray and the DTSx track lines up perfectly without any adjustments. Not sure when I will watch it but I will let you know.

[bradipolpo]

BDInfo report of the 3D disc?
Thanks

[PandaUK]

forgive me if this is in the wrong format - my first post!

[ryanmcv]

Originally Posted by PandaUK

forgive me if this is in the wrong format - my first post!

DISC INFO:

Disc Label:     Jurassic World: Ein neues Zeital
Disc Size:      49,477,270,101 bytes
Protection:     AACS
Extras:         Blu-ray 3D
BDInfo:         0.7.5.6

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00006.MPLS
Length:                 2:26:57.767 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   46,624,094,208 bytes
Total Bitrate:          42.30 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        19983 kbps          Left Eye / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
MPEG-4 MVC Video        9998 kbps           Right Eye       

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Dolby Digital Plus/Atmos Audio  German          1664 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz /  1664 kbps / DN -29dB (AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz /   640 kbps / DN -29dB)
Dolby Digital Plus/Atmos Audio  English         1664 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz /  1664 kbps / DN -29dB (AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz /   640 kbps / DN -29dB)
DTS-HD High-Res Audio           French          2046 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz /  2046 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz /  1509 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS-HD High-Res Audio           Spanish         2046 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz /  2046 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz /  1509 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS-HD High-Res Audio           Italian         2046 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz /  2046 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz /  1509 kbps / 24-bit)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           German          0.786 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           German          25.963 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           German          32.529 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           English         25.979 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           English         32.078 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           French          0.460 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           French          23.035 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         0.896 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         29.265 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Italian         0.759 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           Italian         28.194 kbps

[grazina31]

Originally Posted by ryanmcv

DISC INFO:

Disc Label:     Jurassic World: Ein neues Zeital
Disc Size:      49,477,270,101 bytes
Protection:     AACS
Extras:         Blu-ray 3D
BDInfo:         0.7.5.6

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00006.MPLS
Length:                 2:26:57.767 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   46,624,094,208 bytes
Total Bitrate:          42.30 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        19983 kbps          Left Eye / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
MPEG-4 MVC Video        9998 kbps           Right Eye       

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Dolby Digital Plus/Atmos Audio  German          1664 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz /  1664 kbps / DN -29dB (AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz /   640 kbps / DN -29dB)
Dolby Digital Plus/Atmos Audio  English         1664 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz /  1664 kbps / DN -29dB (AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz /   640 kbps / DN -29dB)
DTS-HD High-Res Audio           French          2046 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz /  2046 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz /  1509 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS-HD High-Res Audio           Spanish         2046 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz /  2046 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz /  1509 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS-HD High-Res Audio           Italian         2046 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz /  2046 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz /  1509 kbps / 24-bit)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           German          0.786 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           German          25.963 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           German          32.529 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           English         25.979 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           English         32.078 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           French          0.460 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           French          23.035 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         0.896 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         29.265 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Italian         0.759 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           Italian         28.194 kbps

In case someone is interested, here is a comparison between Turbine and RSM. I kept only video, english audio and subtitles for an easier comparison.

Turbine Edition:

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 19983 kbps Left Eye / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
MPEG-4 MVC Video 9998 kbps Right Eye

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Dolby Digital Plus/Atmos Audio English 1664 kbps 7.1 / 48 kHz / 1664 kbps / DN -29dB (AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -29dB)

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics English 25.979 kbps
Presentation Graphics English 32.078 kbps


RSM Edition:

VIDEO:
Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 20808 kbps Left Eye / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
MPEG-4 MVC Video 15865 kbps Right Eye

AUDIO:
Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS-HD Master Audio English 1974 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1974 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 16-bit)

SUBTITLES:
Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics English 41.299 kbps
Presentation Graphics English 35.896 kbps

[Tullebob]

Interesting, better video on RSM

[grazina31]

Originally Posted by Tullebob

Interesting, better video on RSM

The bitrate is higher on the RSM release, but darthlaser confirmed Turbine did their own encoding, so that also speaks volume. Like I mentioned on my mini review of JW: Dominion, the Turbine disc is very good and the image was stellar.
From looking at all 3 bdinfo's of the Turbine discs, it looks to me they are going for an average of 20mbps for the left eye and 10mbps for the right eye. If they are able to maintain the current quality standard, specially for live action footage with this bitrate, I don't think we'll ever have anything to complain.
Just as an example, below is the bitrate for the movie Avergers: Endgame in 3D, and that disc is amazing, despite the the right eye's bitrate being even lower. (even taking into account that Endgame was in scope and Dominion is pretty much full screen)
VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 20654 kbps Left Eye / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
MPEG-4 MVC Video 6927 kbps Right Eye

JW: Dominion's encode give me hope that if and when we get No Time To Die, that will also be an amazing disc.

[Doc Moonlight]

Two questions, does Turbine deduct VAT when shipping to the USA, and do they charge your card when you place your order, or when you order ships.

[hariseldon]

Originally Posted by Doc Moonlight

Two questions, does Turbine deduct VAT when shipping to the USA, and do they charge your card when you place your order, or when you order ships.

1st part yes. 24.95Eur item drops to 20.80 when you input a US address.

[Tullebob]

Originally Posted by grazina31

The bitrate is higher on the RSM release, but darthlaser confirmed Turbine did their own encoding, so that also speaks volume. Like I mentioned on my mini review of JW: Dominion, the Turbine disc is very good and the image was stellar.
From looking at all 3 bdinfo's of the Turbine discs, it looks to me they are going for an average of 20mbps for the left eye and 10mbps for the right eye. If they are able to maintain the current quality standard, specially for live action footage with this bitrate, I don't think we'll ever have anything to complain.
Just as an example, below is the bitrate for the movie Avergers: Endgame in 3D, and that disc is amazing, despite the the right eye's bitrate being even lower. (even taking into account that Endgame was in scope and Dominion is pretty much full screen)
VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 20654 kbps Left Eye / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
MPEG-4 MVC Video 6927 kbps Right Eye

JW: Dominion's encode give me hope that if and when we get No Time To Die, that will also be an amazing disc.

Thanks for sharing your insights. I also see the point that its seems Turbine is aiming for average 20 L and 10 R. I agree that these are high quality releases and that they are good signs of what more possibly may come down the line I would, however, wish that Turbine would aim for just a little higher average bitrates on the video, just to sequeeze out every possible drop of video quality - combined with going for a 2 disc solution for longer films. Anyway, great to have Turbine doing 3D releases.

Agree that the Endgame disc is great, but when the video is viewed on a large projector screen, the low bitrates are noticable. Would be so crazy good to have that film over 2 discs with better bitrates

[grazina31]

Originally Posted by Tullebob

Thanks for sharing your insights. I also see the point that its seems Turbine is aiming for average 20 L and 10 R. I agree that these are high quality releases and that they are good signs of what more possibly may come down the line I would, however, wish that Turbine would aim for just a little higher average bitrates on the video, just to sequeeze out every possible drop of video quality - combined with going for a 2 disc solution for longer films. Anyway, great to have Turbine doing 3D releases.

Agree that the Endgame disc is great, but when the video is viewed on a large projector screen, the low bitrates are noticable. Would be so crazy good to have that film over 2 discs with better bitrates

There is no 3D movie that can possibly be released by Turbine that would require them to split the movie in two discs, and I'm including No Time To Die in this list, which if released follows the same bitrate pattern, will be just as impressive as JW: Dominion.

[cdx47]

Originally Posted by Telegram Sam

...but I thought it was fun and well put together nonsense. And it certainly gave The Force Awakens a lesson in how you reunite your original three stars...

I would disagree that it was well put together, but the 2nd half of the movie was kind of fun. Especially when they brought the casts together.

Originally Posted by Telegram Sam

...And it certainly gave The Force Awakens a lesson in how you reunite your original three stars...

The lesson would have fallen on deaf ears since Disney specifically did not want to do that.

Originally Posted by Telegram Sam

...Or, when you said, "The first film", did you mean Jurassic Park? If so, absolutely, it's a classic film with a superb 3D treatment. The first Jurassic World's 3D falls well short of that quality ...and then a similar drop off in quality again in Dominion, in my opinion.

100%.

[Telegram Sam]

Originally Posted by cdx47

The lesson would have fallen on deaf ears since Disney specifically did not want to do that.

Honestly, for all the flak Star Wars films have had flung at them over the years, I think that is the one that deserves the most: I thought the decision not to reunite the three stars was utterly inexplicable, inexcusable and entirely idiotic*. And, because of that, I really thought it was a particular joy to see the way it was done in Dominion.

*I mean, unless one of the three had outright refused to be on screen with one of the others, but I'm unaware of any such bad blood.

[Brian81]

Just finding out the new German release has Atmos. Guess I’ll have to pick this up. Are the on screen titles in English?