Wrath of Khan does anyone agree - Blu-ray Forum

Stu123 · 08-17-2009, 06:14 PM

I know alot think this is the best trek movie so although i know not many will agree i just wondered if any of you thought like me that the first 40mins are slow and boring and aslong as you basically know

[Show spoiler]

you can enjoy search for spock much more which i think is a more enjoyable film and runs along at a better pace.Ok waiting for that 1 person now who agrees

Batman1980 · 08-17-2009, 06:16 PM

Wrath of Khan is the 7th best fantasy movie of all-time. It had everything - action, drama, romance, comedy, suspense and tragedy. Best Star Trek film to date and I doubt that will ever change.

Blu Titan · 08-17-2009, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by stubiedoo

I know alot think this is the best trek movie so although i know not many will agree i just wondered if any of you thought like me that the first 40mins are slow and boring and aslong as you basically know

[Show spoiler]

you can enjoy search for spock much more which i think is a more enjoyable film and runs along at a better pace. Ok waiting for that 1 person now who agrees

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Originally Posted by Wolverine1980

Wrath of Khan is the 7th best fantasy movie of all-time. It had everything - action, drama, romance, comedy, suspense and tragedy. Best Star Trek film to date and I doubt that will ever change.

I knew he would not get his wish.

Stu123 · 08-17-2009, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolverine1980

Wrath of Khan is the 7th best fantasy movie of all-time. It had everything - action, drama, romance, comedy, suspense and tragedy. Best Star Trek film to date and I doubt that will ever change.

Dam why dont i like it then!!!

i think its those mind altering bugs

SquidPuppet · 08-17-2009, 06:19 PM

Spoiler Tags!!!!!!!!!

FlipperWasIrish · 08-17-2009, 06:21 PM

Why is it important for you to (like or dislike) what someone else does?

Each of us are different and that is a wonderful thing.

P@t_Mtl · 08-17-2009, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by stubiedoo

Dam why dont i like it then!!!

i think its those mind altering bugs

Nothing so drastic, you just have different taste, nothing wrong with that.

Wrath Of Khan is without a doubt the best Star Trek movie and let's not turn this into another thread where we argue for 40 pages how Star Trek 2009 is the best one, it's not. It's not a bad movie, far from it but you can't have a movie with Kirk, Spock & McCoy without Shatner, Nimoy & Kelley no matter what amazing job the actors replacing them do.

EricJ · 08-17-2009, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolverine1980

Wrath of Khan is the 7th best fantasy movie of all-time. It had everything - action, drama, romance, comedy, suspense and tragedy. Best Star Trek film to date and I doubt that will ever change.

Why do you think the new Star Trek borrowed half its references from the movie?

I'll see your "7th best fantasy" and raise you "On the short-list of 10 Best TV-Rerun Spinoff Movies Ever Made, if not topping it".

dcowboy7 · 08-17-2009, 07:06 PM

Not enuff fx....too much yapping.

Danielle Ni Dhighe · 08-17-2009, 07:51 PM

Star Trek II is easily the best Star Trek film made to date, not to mention one of the better genre films.

Star Trek at its core has always been character and idea driven more than effects driven, and that's what the first act of the film is all about, setting up the characters and themes for the final act to fulfill.

blukrank · 08-17-2009, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FlipperWasIrish

Why is it important for you to (like or dislike) what someone else does?

Each of us are different and that is a wonderful thing.

So True. I can think of many box office hits that I dont like.And I can think of many Box office flops that are on my favorite movie list.
As for Star Trek II? Well Its one of my favorite movies. Its a great SCFI movie. Lost track of how many times I scene it? But I know I have scene it way to many times as I have must of the lines spoken by the actors from Trek 2 memorized.

Stu123 · 08-17-2009, 09:11 PM

Well it's because i really like star trek that i feel like im missing out with everyone saying how good it is.It's the same as indy 4 i love the indy movies and tried to like that but i just couldn't.I know what you're gonna say now though.......but indy 4 sucked lol

.I thought Bedazzled was a really funny film with Liz Hurley and alot of you guys probably thought that was awful as it got awful reviews.

Batman1980 · 08-17-2009, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by stubiedoo

Well it's because i really like star trek that i feel like im missing out with everyone saying how good it is.It's the same as indy 4 i love the indy movies and tried to like that but i just couldn't.I know what you're gonna say now though.......but indy 4 sucked lol

.I thought Bedazzled was a really funny film with Liz Hurley and alot of you guys probably thought that was awful as it got awful reviews.

LOL O/T I love Bedazzled, I actually like most of Brendan Fraser's cheesy movies. I've always loved Wrath of Khan, it pretty much makes Star Trek great all by itself in my opinion.

BigLuvJason · 08-17-2009, 09:46 PM

2 isnt easily the best.......I liked 4 the best....all opinion

Elandyll · 08-17-2009, 10:42 PM

Always thought WoK was overhyped.

To me the best Trek movies are First contact, Generations, Star Trek I, Star Trek VI, and only then WoK.

iori · 08-17-2009, 10:51 PM

I rather watch the motion picture than watch Khan. Yeah I said it. Undiscovered Country is my fav.

jadedeath · 08-17-2009, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dcowboy7

Not enuff fx....too much yapping.

Turn off brain + EXPLOSIONS = AWESOMES!!!!111!!!111!!!!!!

Logan

AintNoSin · 08-17-2009, 11:00 PM

Without the first 40 minutes, STII:TWoK is just a meaningless light show.

kdn1221 · 08-17-2009, 11:24 PM

The first 40 minutes set the stage for the whole story in TWoK. It gives a quick background on Khan and his relationship to Kirk (The Wrath of Khan) for the non-Trek audience. It provides a goal for Khan to pursue while trying to take revenge on Kirk with the Genesis device. It quickly updates the audience as to the current status of the TOS crew. Without this setup, the battle wouldn't be as satisfying.

TWoK is still one of the best Sci-Fi movies made.

Kirsty_Mc · 08-17-2009, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by stubiedoo

I know alot think this is the best trek movie so although i know not many will agree i just wondered if any of you thought like me that the first 40mins are slow and boring and aslong as you basically know

[Show spoiler]

you can enjoy search for spock much more which i think is a more enjoyable film and runs along at a better pace.Ok waiting for that 1 person now who agrees

My Emphasis

The first 40 minutes are called the buildup. This is where a lot of information is imparted to the viewer which the rest of the story builds upon. Ridley Scott did the same with "Alien" and "Blade Runner"... which are other acclaimed classic Sci-Fi movies. However in order to appreciate them fully an attention span is required. This is probably where Star Wars wins out... it is all bang bang and effects from the moment the movie starts.

08-17-2009, 06:14 PM	#1
Stu123 Power Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Hadley's Hope on LV-426 4K collection:261 Blu-ray collection:560 DVD collection:392 Trading Score:9	Wrath of Khan does anyone agree I know alot think this is the best trek movie so although i know not many will agree i just wondered if any of you thought like me that the first 40mins are slow and boring and aslong as you basically know [Show spoiler] you can enjoy search for spock much more which i think is a more enjoyable film and runs along at a better pace.Ok waiting for that 1 person now who agrees Last edited by Deciazulado; 08-17-2009 at 06:19 PM.

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08-17-2009, 06:16 PM	#2
Batman1980 Blu-ray Jedi Member since:Feb 2009 Location:District 13 Home Theater Gallery:8 4K collection:146 Blu-ray collection:394 DVD collection:57 Blu-ray reviews:22 Trading Score:48	Wrath of Khan is the 7th best fantasy movie of all-time. It had everything - action, drama, romance, comedy, suspense and tragedy. Best Star Trek film to date and I doubt that will ever change.

08-17-2009, 06:19 PM	#5
SquidPuppet Blu-ray Duke Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Club Loop Blu-ray collection:277 Blu-ray reviews:27	Spoiler Tags!!!!!!!!!

08-17-2009, 06:21 PM	#6
FlipperWasIrish Senior Member Member since:Jun 2008	Why is it important for you to (like or dislike) what someone else does? Each of us are different and that is a wonderful thing.

08-17-2009, 07:06 PM	#9
dcowboy7 Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Pequannock, NJ 4K collection:7 Blu-ray collection:112 Trading Score:11	Not enuff fx....too much yapping.

08-17-2009, 07:51 PM	#10
Danielle Ni Dhighe Senior Member Member since:Aug 2009 Blu-ray collection:120	Star Trek II is easily the best Star Trek film made to date, not to mention one of the better genre films. Star Trek at its core has always been character and idea driven more than effects driven, and that's what the first act of the film is all about, setting up the characters and themes for the final act to fulfill.

08-17-2009, 09:11 PM	#12
Stu123 Power Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Hadley's Hope on LV-426 4K collection:261 Blu-ray collection:560 DVD collection:392 Trading Score:9	Well it's because i really like star trek that i feel like im missing out with everyone saying how good it is.It's the same as indy 4 i love the indy movies and tried to like that but i just couldn't.I know what you're gonna say now though.......but indy 4 sucked lol .I thought Bedazzled was a really funny film with Liz Hurley and alot of you guys probably thought that was awful as it got awful reviews.

08-17-2009, 09:46 PM	#14
BigLuvJason Senior Member Member since:Nov 2007 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:2 Blu-ray reviews:6	2 isnt easily the best.......I liked 4 the best....all opinion

08-17-2009, 10:42 PM	#15
Elandyll Blu-ray Knight Member since:Aug 2007 Location:MD Blu-ray collection:188 Trading Score:1	Always thought WoK was overhyped. To me the best Trek movies are First contact, Generations, Star Trek I, Star Trek VI, and only then WoK.

08-17-2009, 10:51 PM	#16
iori Power Member Member since:Apr 2009 Trading Score:2	I rather watch the motion picture than watch Khan. Yeah I said it. Undiscovered Country is my fav.

08-17-2009, 11:00 PM	#18
AintNoSin Blu-ray Guru Member since:Oct 2008 Location:Above the Convenience Store 4K collection:136 Blu-ray collection:594 DVD collection:299 Digital collection:212 iTunes collection:18	Without the first 40 minutes, STII:TWoK is just a meaningless light show.

08-17-2009, 11:24 PM	#19
kdn1221 Senior Member Member since:Oct 2008 Blu-ray collection:499 DVD collection:673	The first 40 minutes set the stage for the whole story in TWoK. It gives a quick background on Khan and his relationship to Kirk (The Wrath of Khan) for the non-Trek audience. It provides a goal for Khan to pursue while trying to take revenge on Kirk with the Genesis device. It quickly updates the audience as to the current status of the TOS crew. Without this setup, the battle wouldn't be as satisfying. TWoK is still one of the best Sci-Fi movies made.

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