1080p, 1080i or 720p

[samdaman94]

ok thanks alot everyone.
i'm getting a new tv and bluray player at the end of the year and thought you guys might be able to actually help me but obviously not
i have a 26" hdtv and am going to get a 37" in a few months, and was just hoping you guys could tell me which is the best. I knew 720p wasn't that good, but I was just throwing it in with the others. i meant to say what is the difference between 1080i and 1080p? what do the letters on the end mean?

jesus christ

[My_Two_Cents]

Originally Posted by samdaman94

ok thanks alot everyone.
i'm getting a new tv and bluray player at the end of the year and thought you guys might be able to actually help me but obviously not
i have a 26" hdtv and am going to get a 37" in a few months, and was just hoping you guys could tell me which is the best. I knew 720p wasn't that good, but I was just throwing it in with the others. i meant to say what is the difference between 1080i and 1080p? what do the letters on the end mean?

jesus christ

Normally I would also have questioned why you would be asking such questions that have been discussed to death around here, but then I looked at your past postings and understood you really were just trying to better understand all of this nonsense that many of us take for granted.

First, 720p is not "not that good". If you are looking to purchase a new TV in the 37" range and are planning to watch at 'normal' distances of ~8-10 feet, then I doubt you would see any difference between a 720p and a 1080p set. I have a 42" and 58" 720p set, and they both look incredible to me with HD content. Panel resolution is not all there is to picture quality. I'd probably rate it fourth behind black level, motion resolution and color accuracy, but that's just me. That being said, unless the price difference is significant (which is why I went the route I did at the time), I would simply go with a 1080p set and be done with it. That way you'll never need to question whether you should have just spent the extra $$.

[Johnny Vinyl]

Here's my $0.02 on the matter.

Anything from 50" and LESS.......720p is perfectly fine and will give you a wonderful visual experience. I have a 42" Panasonic Plasma (720p/1080i) and it looks fantastic. I have no plans to change for a 1080p set any time soon.

Anything ABOVE 50" ........1080p is the way to go nowadays. Still, there are many 55" & 58" sets at 720p that look absolutely fantastic.

For the size you are considering I'd get a 720p set and save me some money. The savings could be spent on upgrading the audio portion of your HT setup.

John

[samdaman94]

thanks alot to the last few people, i really appreciate it

[Kryptonic]

Originally Posted by John72953

Here's my $0.02 on the matter.

Anything from 50" and LESS.......720p is perfectly fine and will give you a wonderful visual experience. I have a 42" Panasonic Plasma (720p/1080i) and it looks fantastic. I have no plans to change for a 1080p set any time soon.

Anything ABOVE 50" ........1080p is the way to go nowadays. Still, there are many 55" & 58" sets at 720p that look absolutely fantastic.

For the size you are considering I'd get a 720p set and save me some money. The savings could be spent on upgrading the audio portion of your HT setup.

John

This is the truth. I would highly recommend getting a 42 inch Panasonic plasma. It'll be cheaper than a 37 inch LCD and the picture will be leaps and bounds better than what a comparably priced LCD will buy you. The Panasonics are 768p, but they accept all signals, up to and including 1080/24p. The image processors in the Panasonics are 1080p, so even though the resolution of the set isn't that, the set will accept those signals and at normal viewing distances, you won't be able to tell a difference anyway. Currently, you can find the entry 42 inch Panasonic plasma (X1) for between $600-$650.

[Halcro 1]

Originally Posted by John72953

Here's my $0.02 on the matter.

Anything from 50" and LESS.......720p is perfectly fine and will give you a wonderful visual experience. I have a 42" Panasonic Plasma (720p/1080i) and it looks fantastic. I have no plans to change for a 1080p set any time soon.

Anything ABOVE 50" ........1080p is the way to go nowadays. Still, there are many 55" & 58" sets at 720p that look absolutely fantastic.

For the size you are considering I'd get a 720p set and save me some money. The savings could be spent on upgrading the audio portion of your HT setup.

John

WELL PUT perfect everyone should use this as the bible

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by Halcro 1

WELL PUT perfect everyone should use this as the bible

Doesn't take into account people using computer monitors though.
I'm looking at this on a 22" LCD and I can tell you that the difference of 1080p over 720p is huge!
Granted I'm at 2ft, but it doesn't change the fact that screen size is irrelevant without viewing distance and source resolution.

[peterng]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

Doesn't take into account people using computer monitors though.
I'm looking at this on a 22" LCD and I can tell you that the difference of 1080p over 720p is huge!
Granted I'm at 2ft, but it doesn't change the fact that screen size is irrelevant without viewing distance and source resolution.

regardless what people said about size, distance and don't look different and all kind of sh*t... numbers never lies ... 1 does not = 2, and so 1080p is always > 720p ...no matter what ...If you can't see the different, you should go to have your eyes check . Folks just say that as an excuse of not spend more money and to comfort themselve ... bunch of bs ...

you're absolutely right ...

[My_Two_Cents]

Originally Posted by peterng

regardless what people said about size, distance and don't look different and all kind of sh*t... numbers never lies ... 1 does not = 2, and so 1080p is always > 720p ...no matter what ...If you can't see the different, you should go to have your eyes check . Folks just say that as an excuse of not spend more money and to comfort themselve ... bunch of bs ...

you're absolutely right ...

I suggest you read-up on the subject before you post misinformation like this. Your statements (if I understand your broken-English correctly) are simply opinion not supported by facts and contribute nothing positive to this thread.

In a word, this is Trollish and not welcome.

[syncguy]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

Doesn't take into account people using computer monitors though.
I'm looking at this on a 22" LCD and I can tell you that the difference of 1080p over 720p is huge!
Granted I'm at 2ft, but it doesn't change the fact that screen size is irrelevant without viewing distance and source resolution.

Absolutely. The screen-size:seating-distance ratio matters rather than the absolute screen size. A rough guideline, as I understand, is about 2.5 screen heights to get full benefit of 1080P. When you move further away from the screen, the benefit of 1080p will gradually diminish.

[HeManster03]

Originally Posted by samdaman94

ok thanks alot everyone.
i'm getting a new tv and bluray player at the end of the year and thought you guys might be able to actually help me but obviously not
i have a 26" hdtv and am going to get a 37" in a few months, and was just hoping you guys could tell me which is the best. I knew 720p wasn't that good, but I was just throwing it in with the others. i meant to say what is the difference between 1080i and 1080p? what do the letters on the end mean?

jesus christ

Sorry if I came off a bit brash before man. I do kinda take some things for granted. Now that I have some info I can better answer your question.
The big question is what is your price range? If your looking for $700 or less, then definately go with the Panny Plasma as has been suggested. Your money would get you a bigger screen size, and in the opinion of 70% of the forum (myself included) a much better picture. If you can get into the $850 range though, might I suggest taking the leap into the 1080p Panny? I have last year's model of the same tv,and I couldn't be happier. All my friends agree and most have gone and bought one, which they also love. Hope it helps, and once again sorry for sounding dickish.

[dobyblue]

I would agree that 720p for sports is better than 1080i, especially fast moving sports like Formula 1. Shooting in 720p allows for 60 frames per second, whereas 1080i is limited (by all media we currently have) to 30 frames per second. When you have content moving at 330kph the more frames per second the clearer the picture is.

Of course if they could shoot at 1080i60 (frames, 120 fields) that would be even better...but then you'd really want an interlaced display to show the content properly so that you avoid deinterlacing artifacts.

OP - you should read this article - http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volum...07-part-1.html

If you're talking about 720p vs. 1080i vs. 1080p you have to consider whether you're talking about the resolution the camera was capturing the content at, the broadcast resolution and the panel resolution, each one means a different thing. Filming at 1080i? Then a 1080i CRT or plasma (Hitachi) which can display an interlaced signal are best. Shooting with film or HD progressively? Then it depends whether shooting at 1080p24 or 1080p30 will show enough movement as the F1 example shows. I'd rather see F1 filmed at 720p60 than 1080p30 for example. Of course currently it's filmed at 576p widescreen so that's neither here nor there! Soccer on the other hand, 1080p30 all the way!

Anyway, read every page in that article. It gives you a comprehensive knowledge of what the different types of resolution mean in different contexts.

[Raymond23]

Originally Posted by samdaman94

i have a 26" hdtv and am going to get a 37" in a few months...

37" TV? If you are at a normal viewing distance, you won't see any difference between the 3 sets. Don't waste the money on 1080p. Instead, research the QUALITY of the TV's themselves.

I have a 42" 720p Panasonic Plasma from a few years ago. The picture quality is stunning. 2 years ago, I picked up a 42" Zenith 720p plasma (pre-black friday sale at KMart for $600-fantactic price at the time) and the picture quality is crap. To this day the burn in is awful. The TV was for the Master Bedroom and we only have SD satelyte in there, so I assumed the picture quality was just an SD/HD thing. But I just upgraded the rec room to 50" 1080p G10 Panasonic (stunning image quality), so the 42" Panasonic moved to the SD bedroom, and the Zenith is being hung in the exercise room (and the 25" CRT built in VHS player is getting recycled). The picture quality of the 42" Panasonic in SD is amazingly better. My wife can tell the difference (and she could care less about this stuff).

So, get a 720p if you are going 37" (the bigger you go, the more value an increase in resolution would be) but get a good brand with good reviews. Everything I own are plasmas (Panasonic is a great choice here). Don't know enough about LCD's to give you a rec.

Hope this helps...