Batman: Caped Crusader (HBOMax Animated Series) (Abrams and Reeves)

[Dynamo of Eternia]

Originally Posted by Batmon77

It seems like Star Trek fans are a rare breed that aren't weighed down by Captain Kirk and the Original series. Yes they continued the original crew for many projects afterwards and even connected Spock to the newer films, but the fans still seemed to let it live without the baggage.

Star Trek continues to make new material and folks dont cry thats its not like 60s Star Trek. The groups that like all the shows that came after dont seem to moan about how its not like the OG.

Star Trek is a rare exception where the follow up series, TNG, is held in as high of regard, if not higher for some people, than the original series.

That being said, a lot of people who are fans of of the OG series, TNG, and the other series in the 90s and early-mid 2000s have been highly critical of many things the recent Star Trek series have done and how it doesn't really fit in with the franchise.

You are looking at this very selectively by focusing only on the original series.


Besides, BTAS wasn't the first ever Batman cartoon series made for TV. If I am not mistaken, that goes to The Adventures of Batman from the late 1960s, with those incarnations being tied into the subsequent Super Friends series (somewhat similar to BTAS being connected to Justice League and LJU). BTAS is just the one generally held in highest regard, and for good reason.

[Batmon77]

Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia

Star Trek is a rare exception where the follow up series, TNG, is held in as high of regard, if not higher for some people, than the original series.

That being said, a lot of people who are fans of of the OG series, TNG, and the other series in the 90s and early-mid 2000s have been highly critical of many things the recent Star Trek series have done and how it doesn't really fit in with the franchise.

You are looking at this very selectively by focusing only on the original series.

Besides, BTAS wasn't the first ever Batman cartoon series made for TV. If I am not mistaken, that goes to The Adventures of Batman from the late 1960s, with those incarnations being tied into the subsequent Super Friends series (somewhat similar to BTAS being connected to Justice League and LJU). BTAS is just the one generally held in highest regard, and for good reason.

Bingo

[Dynamo of Eternia]

Originally Posted by Batmon77

Bingo

You completely missed the rest of the point that I made where many long time Star Trek fans are not happy with the more recent series. And also how BTAS is not the first animated Batman TV series. You are clinging to one minor aspect of a larger point that counterpoints most of what you've been saying.

[Batmon77]

Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia

You completely missed the rest of the point that I made where many long time Star Trek fans are not happy with the more recent series. And also how BTAS is not the first animated Batman TV series. You are clinging to one minor aspect of a larger point that counterpoints most of what you've been saying.

The last one with Pike wasn’t harshly compared to the OG, and folks had good word of mouth for The Lower Decks. So i ignored your “point”.
Please give examples of what latest shows have been harshly criticized.

Discovery??

[Dynamo of Eternia]

Originally Posted by Batmon77

The last one with Pike wasn’t harshly compared to the OG, and folks had good word of mouth for The Lower Decks. So i ignored your “point”.
Please give examples of what latest shows have been harshly criticized.

Discovery??

Discovery was one. Also the first two seasons of Picard.

There's also the point that I made about how BTAS wasn't the first Batman cartoon series. So your argument doesn't hold up in that sense.

[Batmon77]

Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia

Discovery was one. Also the first two seasons of Picard.

There's also the point that I made about how BTAS wasn't the first Batman cartoon series. So your argument doesn't hold up in that sense.

Star Trek continues to make new material and folks dont cry thats its not like 60s Star Trek. The groups that like all the shows that came after dont seem to moan about how its not like the OG.

The shows timeline isn't relevant or whether it was "first".

Christopher Reeve isnt the first Superman, Christopher Pike pre-dates Kirk, and Adam West voiced Batman twice prior to Conroy.

And the quality wasnt a factor either, its fans being stuck on one version/iteration while various versions exist.

Feel free to create another new narrative.

[Dynamo of Eternia]

Originally Posted by Batmon77

The shows timeline isn't relevant or whether it was "first".

Christopher Reeve isnt the first Superman, Christopher Pike pre-dates Kirk, and Adam West voiced Batman twice prior to Conroy.

And the quality wasnt a factor either, its fans being stuck on one version/iteration while various versions exist.

Feel free to create another new narrative.

As opposed to your narrative, which doesn't really hold water in the first place?

BTAS (in cluing TNBA), Batman the Caped Crusader, The Adventures of Batman, and most other cartoon are completely separate series/incarnations of Batman.

Where as all Star Trek shows are connected continuity-wise in some way, shape, or form. Even the 2009 movie and its sequels, which aimed to create a new path for the original series characters (being played by new actors) was still connected by way of old Spock played by Nimoy and the villain time traveling and inadvertently creating the new branching timeline. And most complaints about later series/movie have to do with their impact on things like the overall continuity/canon, as well as the general purpose and tone of Star Trek.

While people will make comparisons either way, your comparison of BTAS to Star Trek TOS was nonsensical to begin with.

My narrative was pretty consistent as a counterpoint to your narrative, which made little sense to start with.

Congrats on failing to make a valid point in the first place. Feel free to respond and continue failing.