The Criterion Collection

[DimitriL]

Originally Posted by jshaide

The Rohmer set, duh! I knew there was another big one like that.

I guess that was more where I was going - like, what if they upgraded the Bergman set? The Olympics set? Something in massive packaging? Those are somewhat more uncharted waters, though perhaps I’m forgetting something along those lines.

[bergman864]

Originally Posted by mande2013

I just hope they’re not yet committed to UHD to the point they’ll just sit on titles that don’t justify or aren’t economically viable for a UHD release, such as all the Naruse and Eustache films. It seems like they’re going all in on UHD to the detriment of less commercially friendly properties. I also wonder if this is why an upgrade of Classe Tous Risques hasn’t happened yet. It was released on UHD in France, but how many UHD units would that film realistically move in North America? Le Doulos and Bob Le Flambeur, which were both released on UHD by Kino are in a similar wheelhouse, but Melville has more cache than Sautet among anglophone film nerds.

They're still releasing BD only titles. No reason to believe they aren't still committed to BD. The only UHD only label currently is Blue Underground and that's because they have no new film licenses.

Thinking otherwise is just creating unnecessary panic.

[ShellOilJunior]

12/3/2024 might be a date to keep tabs on. From what I gather, it's the 40th anniversary of Criterion's first release - Citizen Kane.

[Bubbles-11]

Originally Posted by ShellOilJunior

12/3/2024 might be a date to keep tabs on. From what I gather, it's the 40th anniversary of Criterion's first release - Citizen Kane.

We've already had a Blu-ray and UHD release for Citizen Kane through them, do we need another one?

[Watershipdownisgood]

Originally Posted by ShellOilJunior

12/3/2024 might be a date to keep tabs on. From what I gather, it's the 40th anniversary of Criterion's first release - Citizen Kane.

I think they’re probably planning other titles to release that are not Citizen Kane with hopefully one of them being a laserdisc upgrade that being Dead Presidents. Also maybe all of those Alfred Hitchcock laserdisc titles upgraded to Blu-Ray that don’t have them yet. I’m talking about Secret Agent, Sabotage, and Young and Innocent. Doing a re-release of Citizen Kane would be ridiculous

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by Bubbles-11

We've already had a Blu-ray and UHD release for Citizen Kane through them, do we need another one?

They're just saying it's an anniversary date for the first Criterion release, so Criterion may be doing something on that day. Not that it's anything Citizen Kane related. To be honest, with that being the day of the first release, and it happening to be on a Tuesday, it would have been the ideal day to have released their CC40 set. I think it's only coming out in November so that it could be in the B&N sale.

[Areyakiddin]

Originally Posted by Watershipdownisgood

I think they’re probably planning other titles to release that are not Citizen Kane with hopefully one of them being a laserdisc upgrade that being Dead Presidents. Also maybe all of those Alfred Hitchcock laserdisc titles upgraded to Blu-Ray that don’t have them yet. I’m talking about Secret Agent, Sabotage, and Young and Innocent. Doing a re-release of Citizen Kane would be ridiculous

I don't believe they'll do it, but a 4K UHD of the original King Kong would make the most sense if they wanted to do a laserdisc upgrade. Both a 1984 release and important milestone for the company with the first audio commentary that could easily be ported over.

[whiteberry]

Originally Posted by ShellOilJunior

12/3/2024 might be a date to keep tabs on. From what I gather, it's the 40th anniversary of Criterion's first release - Citizen Kane.

What about a 4K UHD of #2 which was also released in 1984?



I've posted this video many times but I'll post it again...Leonard Maltin on Entertainment Tonight introducing Criterion to viewers:

Entertainment Tonight: Criterion LaserDiscs - 1985 - YouTube

[ShellOilJunior]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

They're just saying it's an anniversary date for the first Criterion release, so Criterion may be doing something on that day. Not that it's anything Citizen Kane related. To be honest, with that being the day of the first release, and it happening to be on a Tuesday, it would have been the ideal day to have released their CC40 set. I think it's only coming out in November so that it could be in the B&N sale.

I think CC will do something even if it's a simple 40% off select titles.

[Rayjaymay]

Originally Posted by Watershipdownisgood

I think they’re probably planning other titles to release that are not Citizen Kane with hopefully one of them being a laserdisc upgrade that being Dead Presidents. Also maybe all of those Alfred Hitchcock laserdisc titles upgraded to Blu-Ray that don’t have them yet. I’m talking about Secret Agent, Sabotage, and Young and Innocent. Doing a re-release of Citizen Kane would be ridiculous

I’d love a laser upgrade for Olivier’s Hamlet to at least blu if not 4K. It’s one of the last remaining Best Pictures I don’t own on at least blu.

[deatheats]

Originally Posted by bergman864

Just because it's some of the greatest films of all time doesn't mean they'll be great sellers. Labels can have a hard time selling upgrades of their popular titles.

Unless it starts costing less to produce UHD discs or physical media sales rise, just being one of the greats isn't justification.

The Halloween sequels are likely better sellers than the majority of Criterion's greatest films output.

All the more reason to applaud Criterion for releasing these in 4k.

[Scottie]

Originally Posted by ShellOilJunior

12/3/2024 might be a date to keep tabs on. From what I gather, it's the 40th anniversary of Criterion's first release - Citizen Kane.

Armageddon and The Rock 8K discs.

[traths]

Originally Posted by Rayjaymay

I’d love a laser upgrade for Olivier’s Hamlet to at least blu if not 4K. It’s one of the last remaining Best Pictures I don’t own on at least blu.

Criterion did release that version of Hamlet on DVD but it's been out of print for a while.

[Professor Echo]

Originally Posted by bergman864

They're still releasing BD only titles. No reason to believe they aren't still committed to BD. The only UHD only label currently is Blue Underground and that's because they have no new film licenses.

Thinking otherwise is just creating unnecessary panic.

Or spearheading what could be an interesting discussion if people didn't automatically censor something they themselves see no value in.

[Professor Echo]

Originally Posted by mande2013

I just hope they’re not yet committed to UHD to the point they’ll just sit on titles that don’t justify or aren’t economically viable for a UHD release, such as all the Naruse and Eustache films. It seems like they’re going all in on UHD to the detriment of less commercially friendly properties. I also wonder if this is why an upgrade of Classe Tous Risques hasn’t happened yet. It was released on UHD in France, but how many UHD units would that film realistically move in North America? Le Doulos and Bob Le Flambeur, which were both released on UHD by Kino are in a similar wheelhouse, but Melville has more cache than Sautet among anglophone film nerds.

Although commercial and marketing potential and the money equation can't be summarily dismissed, I've always gotten the impression that Criterion uses other measures for release consideration more often than we think. I believe that if they themselves feel a film is worthy of an upgrade and they have the materials to make it happen, it will and regardless of its accessibility as a big seller.

[regeyer]

Originally Posted by traths

Criterion did release that version of Hamlet on DVD but it's been out of print for a while.

Yes, I own it. I picked it up for free with one of my Columbia House accounts. To cut to the chase, I watched it once and I am not a fan. I watched it when I obtained it in 2012. I rated the movie as two stars and the PQ as one star. Yeah, the PQ on this DVD sucks.

[NeoNical]

I don't believe Criterion will do anything special release wise for the 40th anniversary of their Citizen Kane laserdisc release. Probably a video and a message to their customers but who knows?

Also, I was thinking of a King Kong 4K release as a potential candidate IF there is a release getting announced on that day. The recent Warner Bros. re-release for this film came out a few years ago and I heard there was a 4K scan and restoration for the film already. This is one of those few monumental classic films from its era that has yet to see a 4K release (Among many others like Gone With the Wind, for example).

[bergman864]

Originally Posted by Professor Echo

Although commercial and marketing potential and the money equation can't be summarily dismissed, I've always gotten the impression that Criterion uses other measures for release consideration more often than we think. I believe that if they themselves feel a film is worthy of an upgrade and they have the materials to make it happen, it will and regardless of its accessibility as a big seller.

Now I'd say yes. I believe they accepted more popular films to be able to put out titles like The Roaring Twenties or Werckmeister Harmonies in 4K.

[darkness2918]

Godzilla 4k is a must for me.

[OceanBlue]

Certainly a varied lineup, the latest batch of Criterion US announcements. Just the one title I would be interested in getting, Scarface (didn't get the Premium Collection UK release).