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Old 08-19-2022, 11:13 PM   #1
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VVS Films released Alex Garland's Men (2022) on July 26th, 2022.
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BDInfo scan

I cannot confirm Atmos, but it is listed in the menu, on the packaging and as part of this scan. The film's end credits also include a logo for Dolby Atmos.

English subtitles are English SDH, while French subtitles are French SDH. All subtitling is in white font.

Code:
                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00000.MPLS                                                      AVC     1:40:22 30,317,223,936  35,659,205,741  40.28   28.81   Dolby Atmos 7.1 4430Kbps (48kHz/24-bit)
Code:
DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     MEN
Disc Label:     MEN
Disc Size:      35,659,205,741 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BDInfo:         0.7.5.6

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00000.MPLS
Length:                 1:40:22.015 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   30,317,223,936 bytes
Total Bitrate:          40.28 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        28810 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Dolby TrueHD/Atmos Audio        English         4430 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz /  3790 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz /   640 kbps / DN -30dB)
Dolby TrueHD Audio              French          3106 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz /  2466 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz /   640 kbps / DN -31dB)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         18.613 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           French          17.654 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           French          0.013 kbps                      

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00000.M2TS      0:00:00.000     1:40:21.807     30,317,217,792  40,277          
00011.M2TS      1:40:21.807     0:00:00.208     6,144           236             

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:14:50.931     27,506 kbps     51,840 kbps     00:00:01.000    37,647 kbps     00:00:39.038    36,800 kbps     00:00:34.034    143,397 bytes   715,189 bytes   00:02:16.344    
2               0:14:50.931     0:14:01.632     29,488 kbps     42,198 kbps     00:14:54.894    40,446 kbps     00:14:54.893    36,098 kbps     00:14:52.433    153,737 bytes   668,686 bytes   00:27:03.538    
3               0:28:52.564     0:14:07.805     29,632 kbps     52,538 kbps     00:34:26.647    38,007 kbps     00:34:23.811    34,414 kbps     00:32:07.133    154,490 bytes   835,186 bytes   00:30:32.831    
4               0:43:00.369     0:13:00.154     29,702 kbps     49,106 kbps     00:50:58.680    34,215 kbps     00:45:22.469    33,388 kbps     00:45:21.969    154,853 bytes   836,369 bytes   00:50:59.181    
5               0:56:00.523     0:16:11.428     29,145 kbps     44,115 kbps     01:03:28.471    35,894 kbps     00:57:14.431    33,706 kbps     00:57:10.510    151,948 bytes   488,677 bytes   01:07:17.950    
6               1:12:11.952     0:12:55.316     31,195 kbps     38,384 kbps     01:24:24.893    34,358 kbps     01:14:27.838    33,869 kbps     01:14:44.104    162,638 bytes   509,684 bytes   01:24:25.018    
7               1:25:07.268     0:10:49.315     30,509 kbps     43,286 kbps     01:35:02.363    36,051 kbps     01:35:01.195    33,681 kbps     01:32:10.691    159,061 bytes   483,842 bytes   01:35:55.875    
8               1:35:56.584     0:04:25.431     13,430 kbps     35,335 kbps     01:36:33.496    34,216 kbps     01:36:30.618    33,378 kbps     01:36:06.594    70,029 bytes    309,182 bytes   01:36:54.308    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00000.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     6021.682                28,811                  21,686,517,797  117,945,792     
00000.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x83            Atmos           eng (English)           6021.682                4,430                   3,334,771,356   22,599,182      
00000.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x83            TrueHD          fra (French)            6021.682                3,106                   2,338,045,568   16,992,042      
00000.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           6021.682                19                      14,010,707      84,120          
00000.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            PGS             fra (French)            6021.682                18                      13,288,862      79,200          
00000.M2TS      4610 (0x1202)   0x90            PGS             fra (French)            6021.682                0                       9,656           67              
00011.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     0.125                   235                     3,679           22
Featurette (Rebirth: The Making of Men)

Code:
                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00003.MPLS                                                      AVC     0:23:57 4,536,772,608   35,659,205,741  25.25   23.44   DD AC3 2.0 640Kbps
Code:
DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     MEN
Disc Label:     MEN
Disc Size:      35,659,205,741 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BDInfo:         0.7.5.6

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00003.MPLS
Length:                 0:23:57.519 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   4,536,772,608 bytes
Total Bitrate:          25.25 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        23436 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Dolby Digital Audio             English         640 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz /   640 kbps / DN -31dB

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00007.M2TS      0:00:00.000     0:23:57.310     4,536,766,464   25,251          
00011.M2TS      0:23:57.310     0:00:00.208     6,144           236             

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:07:16.394     22,736 kbps     46,998 kbps     00:00:55.805    37,473 kbps     00:04:53.126    35,368 kbps     00:04:51.541    118,525 bytes   831,823 bytes   00:00:08.550    
2               0:07:16.394     0:08:16.037     23,233 kbps     52,140 kbps     00:12:09.103    38,418 kbps     00:11:07.333    33,728 kbps     00:12:09.103    121,129 bytes   788,740 bytes   00:10:47.146    
3               0:15:32.431     0:08:25.087     24,240 kbps     51,844 kbps     00:18:53.757    38,385 kbps     00:16:46.588    34,479 kbps     00:15:35.684    126,385 bytes   759,892 bytes   00:16:18.060    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00007.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     1437.227                23,441                  4,211,218,569   22,907,074      
00007.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x81            AC3             eng (English)           1437.227                640                     114,984,960     673,740         
00011.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     0.125                   235                     3,679           22
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Just a gorgeous movie and maybe my favorite of the year. I'm trying to hold out for a UHD release. But now it's $15 on Amazon... I may have to pull the trigger.
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Old 09-04-2022, 08:40 PM   #4
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Just a gorgeous movie and maybe my favorite of the year. I'm trying to hold out for a UHD release. But now it's $15 on Amazon... I may have to pull the trigger.
You're referring to the US disc from Lionsgate, not this Canadian disc from VVS Films.
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For anyone interested in this film's BD edition, make sure you avoid Lionsgate's US edition: it's riddled with atrocious banding and terrible compression issues (some of the nighttime scenes are just a big smudge of greyish-brown with no detail whatsoever). I simply can't understand how the reviewer could call the technical merits as "solid" and detail levels "remarkably consistent" - they're not.

I purchased a second copy of this, namely the German edition from Koch, and the difference in picture quality is unbelievable - no banding whatsoever, very good detail in dark scenes, and just plain brilliant everywhere else. The bitrate and disc size appear to be very similar to the Canadian edition (see above), so maybe that's a good one too.

By the way, I had a very similar experience with Lionsgate's "Beau is Afraid" - so much banding and awful compression in so many places. Again, the German edition, from Leonine, is way better (although not perfect either).

I can't understand the quality control of some of these studios and how they can put out such terrible encodes of recent films. Lionsgate is now permanently on my blacklist.
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For anyone interested in this film's BD edition, make sure you avoid Lionsgate's US edition: it's riddled with atrocious banding and terrible compression issues (some of the nighttime scenes are just a big smudge of greyish-brown with no detail whatsoever). I simply can't understand how the reviewer could call the technical merits as "solid" and detail levels "remarkably consistent" - they're not.

I purchased a second copy of this, namely the German edition from Koch, and the difference in picture quality is unbelievable - no banding whatsoever, very good detail in dark scenes, and just plain brilliant everywhere else. The bitrate and disc size appear to be very similar to the Canadian edition (see above), so maybe that's a good one too.

By the way, I had a very similar experience with Lionsgate's "Beau is Afraid" - so much banding and awful compression in so many places. Again, the German edition, from Leonine, is way better (although not perfect either).

I can't understand the quality control of some of these studios and how they can put out such terrible encodes of recent films. Lionsgate is now permanently on my blacklist.
Can you confirm if the German 4K release include English subtitles please?
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Can you confirm if the German 4K release include English subtitles please?
I only have the Blu-ray edition, which doesn’t (that’s its only drawback, to be honest). I believe the 4K one doesn’t either.
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Can anyone confirm if this Canadian release has the same banding problems as the US release?
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