How does 3D Blu-ray look like?

[Smarttube]

Hey everyone!

I know this is a little off-topic, but I really want to know how 3D Blu-ray looks like. I was born with one eye, so unfortunately I can't watch 3D movies...
My question is: how realistic does it look?

-smarttube

[Jlardonio]

Originally Posted by Smarttube

Hey everyone!

I know this is a little off-topic, but I really want to know how 3D Blu-ray looks like. I was born with one eye, so unfortunately I can't watch 3D movies...
My question is: how realistic does it look?

-smarttube

In my opinion it makes people feel they're inside of the action and it enhances the experience when well done that some details that in 2D one wouldn't notice. But it is a user by user experience... when one experience great elements separation and depth/popups other might feel underwhelmed with the lack of ingenuity in its use. Some experience dizziness, others fatigue when the use of 3D isn't done right.

About realism: some CGI in 2D may seem fake and not right in the movies scenes as in 3D those flaws don't exist as in 3D the CGI blend perfectly.

I hope I helped you on your doubt.

[Smarttube]

Thank you for the information!
I am used to seeing with one eye so 3D wouldn't add anything.

[paperboy]

If the 3D conversion is bad the feel of depth is either very weak or it's similar to these puppet theaters with layers of paper to create depth in the background.
If it's done right you'll have feeling of objects popping out of the screen and coming right at you, and you'll be able to see the shapes in the faces without solely relying on the shadows. If there's a scene shot in a tunnel or inside a car (a closed space) then you can tell how big that space is without a previous frame of reference.

[The hitcher]

I saw Fury Road in 3D. It was cool but not necessary for enjoying the film

[Jlardonio]

Originally Posted by The hitcher

I saw Fury Road in 3D. It was cool but not necessary for enjoying the film

On what equipment?

[Variety Films 3D]

Stereoscopic viewing is basically a sixth sense so it's hard to describe, aside from both eyes seeing the scene from different angles & your brain doing the job of combining them into a single cohesive image, where you can now perceive the space between layers as well as subtleties like angles & curvature. Some will say you can see 3D with one eye via cues like shallow depth of field and parallax by movement, but these are completely unrelated & can coexist with stereoscopy, which 3D in this context refers to.

[The hitcher]

Originally Posted by Jlardonio

On what equipment?

My local theater

[Jlardonio]

Originally Posted by The hitcher

My local theater

Okay, I thought you meant at home.

Some theaters aren't the best place to watch 3D movies.

[Smarttube]

Sounds cool! It would be great if somehow in the future there is an invention that can make me see with two eyes again. Now I just enjoy 2D.

[Interdimensional]

Originally Posted by Smarttube

Hey everyone!

I know this is a little off-topic, but I really want to know how 3D Blu-ray looks like. I was born with one eye, so unfortunately I can't watch 3D movies...
My question is: how realistic does it look?

-smarttube

Originally Posted by Smarttube

Sounds cool! It would be great if somehow in the future there is an invention that can make me see with two eyes again. Now I just enjoy 2D.

It is my great fear that I will somehow lose sight in one eye. I hope you live long enough to see the technology emerge that can provide you with stereoscopic sight!

Although I suspect there may be more to it than simply hooking up a new eye. I imagine the brain has to learn how to interpret two similar, but subtly distinct images. I remember an article about someone who was inspired by Avatar to teach themselves to see in 3D, having grown up stereoblind. (A certain portion of the population never learned to fuse the two images, and just focus on the image from the dominant eye, ignoring all the depth perception cues they are getting from the other.

If you slide your head back and forth, you get some idea of how parallax works. You can see around and behind near objects, and get a sense of what is close and what is far away based on how everything overlaps. Without this, you are depending on other cues to understand depth, which may not always be present.

The very best 3D can give you the sensation that an object is right in front of you, sometimes within arms reach. It can feel tactile, like you could almost touch it. You can sense the texture, the curvature, the volume. Individual hairs overlapping. Other fun 3D effects are when objects are fired out of the screen, for example a number of classic 3D movies would have flaming arrows which almost feel as if they fly past you. It can provoke the sensation that you feel the need to duck. Another fun effect can be something like a rollercoaster ride, which can stimulate some(but not all) of the same responses we might get from the actual ride. There isn't much depth perception to be found in distant objects far behind the screen, but starfields and mountains can feel like they stretch back far beyond the screen. 3D always gives a sense of space, between objects, between people, unlike 2d, where it can seem like everything is on top of another. House of Wax has a scene where a character stands up in the foreground and runs into the scene. When viewed in a movie theater, it will feel as if someone in one of the seats in front has got up and stepped into the movie!

Many modern 3D movies do not go to so much trouble to take full advantage of all that 3D has to offer, so in that sense, it's often 'not necessary for enjoying the film', but they usually do add an extra layer of entertainment/immersion. Somewhat like how surround sound is 'not necessary for enjoying the film', but can certainly enhance the experience. Of course the 3D movies I really live for are the ones that do a lot more than that.

[Jlardonio]

Originally Posted by Interdimensional

It is my great fear that I will somehow lose sight in one eye. I hope you live long enough to see the technology emerge that can provide you with stereoscopic sight!

Although I suspect there may be more to it than simply hooking up a new eye. I imagine the brain has to learn how to interpret two similar, but subtly distinct images. I remember an article about someone who was inspired by Avatar to teach themselves to see in 3D, having grown up stereoblind. (A certain portion of the population never learned to fuse the two images, and just focus on the image from the dominant eye, ignoring all the depth perception cues they are getting from the other.

If you slide your head back and forth, you get some idea of how parallax works. You can see around and behind near objects, and get a sense of what is close and what is far away based on how everything overlaps. Without this, you are depending on other cues to understand depth, which may not always be present.

The very best 3D can give you the sensation that an object is right in front of you, sometimes within arms reach. It can feel tactile, like you could almost touch it. You can sense the texture, the curvature, the volume. Individual hairs overlapping. Other fun 3D effects are when objects are fired out of the screen, for example a number of classic 3D movies would have flaming arrows which almost feel as if they fly past you. It can provoke the sensation that you feel the need to duck. Another fun effect can be something like a rollercoaster ride, which can stimulate some(but not all) of the same responses we might get from the actual ride. There isn't much depth perception to be found in distant objects far behind the screen, but starfields and mountains can feel like they stretch back far beyond the screen. 3D always gives a sense of space, between objects, between people, unlike 2d, where it can seem like everything is on top of another. House of Wax has a scene where a character stands up in the foreground and runs into the scene. When viewed in a movie theater, it will feel as if someone in one of the seats in front has got up and stepped into the movie!

Many modern 3D movies do not go to so much trouble to take full advantage of all that 3D has to offer, so in that sense, it's often 'not necessary for enjoying the film', but they usually do add an extra layer of entertainment/immersion. Somewhat like how surround sound is 'not necessary for enjoying the film', but can certainly enhance the experience. Of course the 3D movies I really live for are the ones that do a lot more than that.

Instead of moving the head I'd suggest moving the hand in front of the face and try to pick the different depths doing it.

[Smarttube]

Originally Posted by Interdimensional

It is my great fear that I will somehow lose sight in one eye. I hope you live long enough to see the technology emerge that can provide you with stereoscopic sight!

Although I suspect there may be more to it than simply hooking up a new eye. I imagine the brain has to learn how to interpret two similar, but subtly distinct images. I remember an article about someone who was inspired by Avatar to teach themselves to see in 3D, having grown up stereoblind. (A certain portion of the population never learned to fuse the two images, and just focus on the image from the dominant eye, ignoring all the depth perception cues they are getting from the other.

If you slide your head back and forth, you get some idea of how parallax works. You can see around and behind near objects, and get a sense of what is close and what is far away based on how everything overlaps. Without this, you are depending on other cues to understand depth, which may not always be present.

The very best 3D can give you the sensation that an object is right in front of you, sometimes within arms reach. It can feel tactile, like you could almost touch it. You can sense the texture, the curvature, the volume. Individual hairs overlapping. Other fun 3D effects are when objects are fired out of the screen, for example a number of classic 3D movies would have flaming arrows which almost feel as if they fly past you. It can provoke the sensation that you feel the need to duck. Another fun effect can be something like a rollercoaster ride, which can stimulate some(but not all) of the same responses we might get from the actual ride. There isn't much depth perception to be found in distant objects far behind the screen, but starfields and mountains can feel like they stretch back far beyond the screen. 3D always gives a sense of space, between objects, between people, unlike 2d, where it can seem like everything is on top of another. House of Wax has a scene where a character stands up in the foreground and runs into the scene. When viewed in a movie theater, it will feel as if someone in one of the seats in front has got up and stepped into the movie!

Many modern 3D movies do not go to so much trouble to take full advantage of all that 3D has to offer, so in that sense, it's often 'not necessary for enjoying the film', but they usually do add an extra layer of entertainment/immersion. Somewhat like how surround sound is 'not necessary for enjoying the film', but can certainly enhance the experience. Of course the 3D movies I really live for are the ones that do a lot more than that.

Ok, but if you move your head during a 3D movie, for example if there is a cube. Does it look like there is an actual cube in front of you? And if you move your head, does the effect break?

[ikms]

Originally Posted by Jlardonio

Instead of moving the head I'd suggest moving the hand in front of the face and try to pick the different depths doing it.

The main difference between 3D movies and "real life" as experienced with two eyes is probably down to the depth of field because your eyes (or one eye for that matter) have to focus to different distances in the Z axis as it were in order to get things in focus. IRL convergence (basically how much you need to cross your eyes to fuse) and the focus distance motions are tied together... but with 3D films the screen image in total, no matter how close or distant objects within it may appear (but like IRL the degree of cross necessary to fuse will depend upon how near or far to the cameras objects were at the moment of capture), is always at one focus distance: the distance to your screen. So you have to work against your natural instinct, maintain a set focus squeeze even as you swing your eyes in an out of cross. Not sure if this completely makes sense, but the end result is not entirely convincing as 3D, but perhaps just on a subliminal level. It is probably responsible for headaches for some people who have trouble with 3D movies who experience no problems in the real world. Also you must keep your head on a plane that is level because the intended binocular separation for movies is always on the X-axis and never veers into the Y, ie: no lying down to watch these films I am afraid! I find this is actually an annoyance with 3D stills cameras, the one I own is perpetually in a 4:3 landscape orientation. I have to go to a rail setup to shoot vertical images (3:4, 2:3, 9:16, ect).

[Variety Films 3D]

Originally Posted by Smarttube

Ok, but if you move your head during a 3D movie, for example if there is a cube. Does it look like there is an actual cube in front of you? And if you move your head, does the effect break?

No, the effect will not break. You might perceive a small amount of movement on-screen when you move, but it's minimal & is really just warping. Remember, 3D movies are FIXED VIEW just like any 2D movie, with the addition of stereoscopic depth. People often confuse it with the '3D' of virtual worlds & models in which an object can be viewed from different angles based on vantage point. A 3D movie/Blu-ray is simply two views on the disc (one for each eye) that are fused into one.

[Smarttube]

Originally Posted by Variety Films 3D

No, the effect will not break. You might perceive a small amount of movement on-screen when you move, but it's minimal & is really just warping. Remember, 3D movies are FIXED VIEW just like any 2D movie, with the addition of stereoscopic depth. People often confuse it with the '3D' of virtual worlds & models in which an object can be viewed from different angles based on vantage point. A 3D movie/Blu-ray is simply two views on the disc (one for each eye) that are fused into one.

I already thought so, just wanted to ask. Thanks for your response!

[lucasatakros]

Originally Posted by Smarttube

Hey everyone!

I know this is a little off-topic, but I really want to know how 3D Blu-ray looks like. I was born with one eye, so unfortunately I can't watch 3D movies...
My question is: how realistic does it look?

-smarttube

...you are standing outside in the snow and you feel it on your face.... open the palm of your hand and have it face up. As you extend your palm out from your body, you continue to feel snow landing on your palm and slowly melting. Imagine that feeling surrounding you in all directions.

That is the best I can do describing it if there is a good 3D presentation. I have 3D slide images taken on ski trips to Colorado.... the snow flakes floating mid air stretching into the distance are incredible!

[Smarttube]

Originally Posted by lucasatakros

...you are standing outside in the snow and you feel it on your face.... open the palm of your hand and have it face up. As you extend your palm out from your body, you continue to feel snow landing on your palm and slowly melting. Imagine that feeling surrounding you in all directions.

That is the best I can do describing it if there is a good 3D presentation. I have 3D slide images taken on ski trips to Colorado.... the snow flakes floating mid air stretching into the distance are incredible!

Ok. So it actually looks like there is real snow? That sounds pretty cool. In my country it doesn't snow very much but thanks for the example!

[lucasatakros]

Originally Posted by Smarttube

Ok. So it actually looks like there is real snow? That sounds pretty cool. In my country it doesn't snow very much but thanks for the example!

Snow is really probably the best for depth (since large flakes float midair), but it works well with rain and fire embers as well. Several movies have made me flinch with embers, flames and debris from explosions flying toward you when watching.

Other effective scenes are with snow and rainfall on car windshields, especially with wiper blades. "The Finest Hours" had a number of scenes with heavy snow, snow on windshields, and spray as the rescue boat crashed through waves. It's a great movie, especially in 3D. Engine room scenes with them working with chains dangling down as they work the emergency steering are really fantastic. The 3D and surround sound with the noise of chains clanking adds aural and visual depth.

[calvin45]

Thanks