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Originally Posted by Law212

Also, someone let me know...

[Show spoiler]Was the guy texting her that she met up with saying he can help her even real or just another mind eff by the creature?

I think, until or unless a third film comes out and addresses any of this (which it likely won't), writer/director Parker Finn did enough to give us our own interpretation of certain moments. Your above was one of them, and it can be thought up many ways.

[Show spoiler]Allow me to digress though, because remember that Skye meets with Morris twice in the film, so it's worth asking about both encouters.

1) Personally, I believe that Skye's initial meet-up with Morris really happened.

One could argue that any of the information Morris provides could be provided by the Smile entity itself, which is possible since it lived in the heads of all of those individuals before it (as he mentions the cop, doctor, and college professor); however, because she received a text message with a video that Lewis made, I don't believe it is capable of sending physical messages (unless inhabiting another body) or creating an illusion from a vantage point outside of the person who's presently inhabited.

That being said, no one else interacts with Morris in the moment and he does give information that could sound feasible to Skye from the entity (asking her to kill herself), so the meet-up itself could still very well be imagined. There is a deleted scene of Skye's mom in her apartment telling her to stay inside and communicate with her label, etc. as Skye puts on her undercover getup, so I think it's safe to say she went to the meet-up at the very least.

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2) I do not think the encounter in the Pizza Hut freezer at Staten Island was real.

Then again, I don't think anything after the encounter with the dancers in her apartment was real (of course that itself wasn't real, but we can probably at least say she had a manic episode in her bathroom, which explains that she was likely the one who trashed her dressing room earlier but we didn't see it), except for the end concert scene. So once you see the dancer's arm go into her mouth, I think that was kind of the possession which took Skye onto autopilot until the end of the film when she is on stage. Everything in between that we saw was a hallucination controlled by the entity.

We've seen the entity control time and events of its host in the movie before, like when Lewis initially texts Skye, when he runs out of his bedroom area wondering where she came from, and between the moment when Skye calls Gemma and then a few short minutes later she's arrived.

Anyway, after the dancer arm thing is the crazy day that follows when she's in the hospital, but if I believe everything afterward didn't happen, this means that Skye wasn't hospitalized (or she was, but once the mom looks like a smiler then we're in hallucination mode), she didn't kill her mom, she didn't break out of the hospital, neither Gemma nor a smiler version of Gemma were with her in the car, and of course she did not meet up with Morris, etc.

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Now, if somebody were to ask about Gemma...

I have seen countless reaction videos of this movie online, and by the end of the movie all of them arrive at the same conclusion regarding Gemma: "Wait a minute, that means GEMMA WAS NEVER WITH HER!"

Not necessarily! If you follow your own logic after seeing the mom alive at the end, it's that that occurrence in the car (and with the phone call) never happened to begin with, including the phone call from "real Gemma" as "smiler Gemma" is with Skye in the car. So it's entirely possible that Gemma really slept over at Skye's place earlier in the film, obviously with a hallucination in the middle of the night containing the smiler.

Now, if you listen to the director commentary, he kind of suggests otherwise, but not definitively so. He just says that the audience kind of draws new conclusions as the film continues to develop.