Andrei Tarkovsky’s The Sacrifice (1986) 4K UHD (Kino Studio Classics)

[KubrickKurasawa]

Originally Posted by HippieDalek

As long as anyone but Criterion is handling Solaris then I'll be happy. Their transfers keep getting farther and farther from the original, with their own edit and colours, and they completely ignored the cinematographer saying there was no blue tint. Sadly Criterion's "restoration" is the only one to get English subtitles.

Saying all that Criterion did a lovely job with Stalker on Blu Ray.

I watched it on my Epson Projector at 140-150 inches many years ago, and the disc could be upgraded. Solaris is just clunky. After watching Seven Samurai 4K compared to the 2K Blu-Ray you would be shocked how bad most CRiterion Blu-Rays are. Too many people always talking them up LOL. Trust no one.

[malakaheso]

Originally Posted by HippieDalek

As long as anyone but Criterion is handling Solaris then I'll be happy. Their transfers keep getting farther and farther from the original, with their own edit and colours, and they completely ignored the cinematographer saying there was no blue tint. Sadly Criterion's "restoration" is the only one to get English subtitles.

Saying all that Criterion did a lovely job with Stalker on Blu Ray.

If you think piss yellow is the same as sepia I guess!

[nils]

Directed by Andrei Tarkovsky (1988, a documentary) in HD?

[KubrickKurasawa]

Originally Posted by nils

Directed by Andrei Tarkovsky (1988, a documentary) in HD?

Maybe his son? Because Andrei probably died b4 88.

[HundredYearLurker]

Originally Posted by KubrickKurasawa

Maybe his son? Because Andrei probably died b4 88.

That's it, I'm changing my handle to TarintinoTarkavsky.

[nils]

Originally Posted by KubrickKurasawa

Maybe his son? Because Andrei probably died b4 88.

Michal Leszczylowski https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095967/

Unfortunately, Directed by Andrei Tarkovsky (1988, a documentary) on second disc - in SD PQ

[ASLAN]

Has anyone seen this disc yet? It's been out for a week and no review anywhere.

[n0tredom]

Originally Posted by ASLAN

Has anyone seen this disc yet? It's been out for a week and no review anywhere.

I received mine a few days ago from Target but wasn't planning to watch it anytime soon. I just saw this in theaters last month so it's not high on my to-do list.

[Lutz]

Originally Posted by malakaheso

If you think piss yellow is the same as sepia I guess!

If you now have a 4K TV you might want to chuck the STALKER disc in and check the tint again.

[gottaget]

Originally Posted by n0tredom

I received mine a few days ago from Target but wasn't planning to watch it anytime soon. I just saw this in theaters last month so it's not high on my to-do list.

That's good to know

I just want to let you know that I don't have it yet but I've saved it on my Amazon wishlist

[trip66]

I got it and watched it immediately! I'm surprised there is no reviews yet. I'm not a reviewer, but I can certainly tell everyone what I saw.

So, for the colors, there was no push toward pink in the whites (like the AE disc) and no push towards green (like the Kino 4k master). Now I know there was a slight, ever so slight push toward blue in the whites on the original Kino disc.

Early in the film, we get some nice shots inside the house (a beautiful house btw), and it has to be one of the most beautiful "black and white shots filmed in color" that I've ever seen, because of the color timing in the whites. The sun coming through the windows give such an amazing warm tone (slight brown/yellow) that counteracts the cold walls (slight grey/blue) all within the wide shot of the interior. I couldn't help but love the cinematography of this shot.

My shot of reference in this film is the spilt milk. Yes, if you squint your eyes at the spilt milk, you will see a slight cold blue tint, but ever so slightly. Its not teal pushed, its not entirely "blue" it just has a colder temperature to the white.

My only issue is some of the blacks look a tad crushed. The two men wearing black (or navy blue) jackets inside the house are lacking detail and are just a flurry of film grain. Since these indoor shots only have only natural lighting coming from outside, I can live with that.

Funny thing is, there are some other shots that have clearer blacks, but much less grain in them. The shot of Alexander walking down the staircase to see his family zoned out in front of the TV is like this. The stairs are black, and its a dark, late evening shot, yet the detail in the staircase looks nice. I don't think its scrubbed of grain, its just a lot less grainy than the other shots.

There are also some damage areas. A shot of the kid in his bed, there is a some blue fluctuations in the bottom right corner. That's the only real big one I can think of right now.

That being said, I'm not a proper reviewer, I'm not a nit-picker, and that's how it looked to me. I personally think it looks wonderful. I'm sure some people will find something to complain about.

Tarkovsky has stated he doesn't like symbolism, but its kind of hard not to take the color of this film as symbolism. The visions of the dystopian future in Alexander's head are in black and white, the outdoor shots of the real world are in full color (green grass and eventually, red and orange), while the interior shots of the house are in color, but not of color. A color purgatory. In his head? Or real? Or possibly a little of both?

[MovieBuff647]

Originally Posted by trip66

I got it and watched it immediately! I'm surprised there is no reviews yet. I'm not a reviewer, but I can certainly tell everyone what I saw.

So, for the colors, there was no push toward pink in the whites (like the AE disc) and no push towards green (like the Kino 4k master). Now I know there was a slight, ever so slight push toward blue in the whites on the original Kino disc.

Early in the film, we get some nice shots inside the house (a beautiful house btw), and it has to be one of the most beautiful "black and white shots filmed in color" that I've ever seen, because of the color timing in the whites. The sun coming through the windows give such an amazing warm tone (slight brown/yellow) that counteracts the cold walls (slight grey/blue) all within the wide shot of the interior. I couldn't help but love the cinematography of this shot.

My shot of reference in this film is the spilt milk. Yes, if you squint your eyes at the spilt milk, you will see a slight cold blue tint, but ever so slightly. Its not teal pushed, its not entirely "blue" it just has a colder temperature to the white.

My only issue is some of the blacks look a tad crushed. The two men wearing black (or navy blue) jackets inside the house are lacking detail and are just a flurry of film grain. Since these indoor shots only have only natural lighting coming from outside, I can live with that.

Funny thing is, there are some other shots that have clearer blacks, but much less grain in them. The shot of Alexander walking down the staircase to see his family zoned out in front of the TV is like this. The stairs are black, and its a dark, late evening shot, yet the detail in the staircase looks nice. I don't think its scrubbed of grain, its just a lot less grainy than the other shots.

There are also some damage areas. A shot of the kid in his bed, there is a some blue fluctuations in the bottom right corner. That's the only real big one I can think of right now.

That being said, I'm not a proper reviewer, I'm not a nit-picker, and that's how it looked to me. I personally think it looks wonderful. I'm sure some people will find something to complain about.

Tarkovsky has stated he doesn't like symbolism, but its kind of hard not to take the color of this film as symbolism. The visions of the dystopian future in Alexander's head are in black and white, the outdoor shots of the real world are in full color (green grass and eventually, red and orange), while the interior shots of the house are in color, but not of color. A color purgatory. In his head? Or real? Or possibly a little of both?

The included Blu-Ray has the newer master too, correct?

[trip66]

Originally Posted by MovieBuff647

The included Blu-Ray has the newer master too, correct?

Sorry, I didn't play the blu-ray, or check out the features. I just watched the 4k. I haven't had the chance to spin any movie since I watched the 4k last weekend.

[KubrickKurasawa]

Originally Posted by ASLAN

Has anyone seen this disc yet? It's been out for a week and no review anywhere.

Yeah, I'm going to get this 4K even though the double disc Blu-Ray from Kino was perfect IMHO. I'm in the mood for cyclical nuclear Holocaust subject and existentialism from the Late Tarkovsky plus it's his last film...maybe his best in a lot of ways. Underrated. Nevermind no HDR right? Then just spin the old BluRay for me. Shucks.

[hamsterburger]

Originally Posted by trip66

Sorry, I didn't play the blu-ray, or check out the features. I just watched the 4k. I haven't had the chance to spin any movie since I watched the 4k last weekend.

Does this new 4K release from Kino also include two blu-rays in addition to the UHS? The extras-disc with the documentary and interviews and a second blu with the remastered film?

Thanks

[SpookyDollhouse]

Originally Posted by hamsterburger

Does this new 4K release from Kino also include two blu-rays in addition to the UHS? The extras-disc with the documentary and interviews and a second blu with the remastered film?

Thanks

It has all the extras from the prior release with the exception that they are now on a Blu-ray.

[hamsterburger]

Originally Posted by SpookyDollhouse

It has all the extras from the prior release with the exception that they are now on a Blu-ray.

Ah, so it is just one blu and one 4K, two discs in total? Does the blu-ray also contain the film as well?

[SpookyDollhouse]

Originally Posted by hamsterburger

Ah, so it is just one blu and one 4K, two discs in total? Does the blu-ray also contain the film as well?

Yes, and yes the movie is on the Blu-ray as well

[SchoolOfHardbox]

I've never heard of this before, but it sounds great and the trailer was haunting... Ordered!

[shoegazer47]

any updates on how this one is compared to the blu-ray?