Mission Impossible - Dead Reckoning (2023)

[Member-222782]

Originally Posted by eightslicesofpie

I'm holding off for what I hope will be a full box set once #8 is out next year...

Originally Posted by Worship.my.wreck

Same. This is my stance on the Fast and Furious films as well. Waiting until the last one releases for a complete box set.

This is like saying you're going to wait until the last James Bond film is made to buy a box set. Money making franchises don't just stop so you guys may be waiting forever.

[eightslicesofpie]

Originally Posted by Cinema84

This is like saying you're going to wait until the last James Bond film is made to buy a box set. Money making franchises don't just stop so you guys may be waiting forever.

Well until this one came out they were saying that 8 would be the last one, then they changed their tune lol but also this one wasn't as big of a hit as they hoped so maybe they'll change their mind again

[kevinquest]

Originally Posted by Socko

Disc Size: 45,367,620,778 bytes
Movie Size: 45,085,169,664 bytes

The disc was full.
But you are right, though.

They could have put the digital only extras on there as well, but they want to pull us into the realm of digital only

Yeah ain’t gonna work those deleted scenes is not gonna sway anyone that like physical releases to buy digital

[Just_Larry]

This is a real p*ss poor transfer on the 1080p disc. Lots of artifacting in the scene when Ethan and Kitteridge meet face to face in the smoke filled room.

[Pieter V]

Blu-ray.com review

[A-Man999]

Originally Posted by KootiePie

Do non-UHD threads still matter or is everyone at the UHD ones these days? If the latter, is everyone into 4k or is just there to have everything in one place?

Well, for the ones of us in the 2k crowd (assuming there's still a crowd) here's the BDInfo. Same audio/subs tracks as the 4k with the addition of Japanese.

DISC INFO:
Disc Title:     Mission: Impossible Dead Reckoning Part One
Disc Label:     BDAREA
Disc Size:      45,367,620,778 bytes
Protection:     AACS
Extras:         BD-Java
BDInfo:         0.8.0.1b

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:           00001.MPLS
Length:         02:43:25.796 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:           45,085,169,664 bytes
Total Bitrate:  36.78 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
---------------         -------------       -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        25,559 kbps         1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

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---------------                 -------------   -------------   -----------     
Dolby TrueHD/Atmos Audio        English          3571 kbps      7.1 / 48 kHz /  3123 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz /   448 kbps / DN -27dB)
Dolby Digital Audio             English           640 kbps      5.1 / 48 kHz /   640 kbps / DN -27dB
Dolby Digital Audio             Spanish           640 kbps      5.1 / 48 kHz /   640 kbps / DN -27dB
Dolby Digital Audio             French            640 kbps      5.1 / 48 kHz /   640 kbps / DN -27dB
Dolby Digital Audio             French            640 kbps      5.1 / 48 kHz /   640 kbps / DN -27dB
Dolby Digital Audio             Japanese          640 kbps      5.1 / 48 kHz /   640 kbps / DN -27dB
Dolby Digital Audio             English           224 kbps      2.0 / 48 kHz /   224 kbps / DN -31dB
Dolby Digital Audio             English           640 kbps      5.1 / 48 kHz /   640 kbps / DN -31dB

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Really late to this party, but it's worth mentioning the fact that on the 4K edition sold in the the Americas, UK, Australia, France, Nordic countries, the Netherlands, and Belgium, the France French dub is in Atmos like English rather than 5.1, while the Japanese dub is in TrueHD 7.1 (no Atmos though) on the 4K edition sold in Japan, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland, Hong Kong, Korea, China, Taiwan, Slovakia, and Thailand.

Paramount better step their game up and keep things consistent across both 4K and Blu-ray... I mean- I can use computer-assisted tools to swap in the foreign Atmos/7.1 audio tracks on the BDs, but... come on.

[KootiePie]

Originally Posted by A-Man999

Really late to this party, but it's worth mentioning the fact that on the 4K edition sold in the the Americas, UK, Australia, France, Nordic countries, the Netherlands, and Belgium, the France French dub is in Atmos like English rather than 5.1, while the Japanese dub is in TrueHD 7.1 (no Atmos though) on the 4K edition sold in Japan, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland, Hong Kong, Korea, China, Taiwan, Slovakia, and Thailand.

Paramount better step their game up and keep things consistent across both 4K and Blu-ray... I mean- I can use computer-assisted tools to swap in the foreign Atmos/7.1 audio tracks on the BDs, but... come on.

At least on 2k BD the dubs should be kept at the minimum bitrate possible if anything. Look here. A 163min movie with just one lossless track already fills an entire BD50, and that at a paltry 25 mbps for the video. Putting lossless dubs here would chew even more at the bitrate.

This is a modern movie, where usually you can get by with modest bitrates. But on older stuff this is a problem. I remember Spartacus, a 3hr behemoth with the fine grain of 70mm, where I had to specifically hunt down the US release because the European got a lower bitrate encode so they could cram all the crappy dubs. Other times the European releases have the original mono mix axed and leave you only with the 5.1 remix.

Back to dual 2k/4k releases, also it's often the 2k disc the one to carry the extras. On 90 min movies this is not much of a problem but on longer ones the space constrains lurk in the background.

For 4k you may be right though. A BD100 could probably hold more lossless tracks without sacrificing the encode.

[A-Man999]

Originally Posted by KootiePie

At least on 2k BD the dubs should be kept at the minimum bitrate possible if anything. Look here. A 163min movie with just one lossless track already fills an entire BD50, and that at a paltry 25 mbps for the video. Putting lossless dubs here would chew even more at the bitrate.

This is a modern movie, where usually you can get by with modest bitrates. But on older stuff this is a problem. I remember Spartacus, a 3hr behemoth with the fine grain of 70mm, where I had to specifically hunt down the US release because the European got a lower bitrate encode so they could cram all the crappy dubs. Other times the European releases have the original mono mix axed and leave you only with the 5.1 remix.

Back to dual 2k/4k releases, also it's often the 2k disc the one to carry the extras. On 90 min movies this is not much of a problem but on longer ones the space constrains lurk in the background.

For 4k you may be right though. A BD100 could probably hold more lossless tracks without sacrificing the encode.

Maybe I should just reserve that for digital disc-free backups then.

[Hindustani]

Oscar nominations

Best Sound
Best Visual Effects

Lets hope it pulls 1 win

[Raxxx]

Originally Posted by KootiePie

Do non-UHD threads still matter or is everyone at the UHD ones these days? If the latter, is everyone into 4k or is just there to have everything in one place?

Well, for the ones of us in the 2k crowd (assuming there's still a crowd) here's the BDInfo. Same audio/subs tracks as the 4k with the addition of Japanese.

DISC INFO:
Disc Title:     Mission: Impossible Dead Reckoning Part One
Disc Label:     BDAREA
Disc Size:      45,367,620,778 bytes
Protection:     AACS
Extras:         BD-Java
BDInfo:         0.8.0.1b

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:           00001.MPLS
Length:         02:43:25.796 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:           45,085,169,664 bytes
Total Bitrate:  36.78 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
---------------         -------------       -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        25,559 kbps         1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
---------------                 -------------   -------------   -----------     
Dolby TrueHD/Atmos Audio        English          3571 kbps      7.1 / 48 kHz /  3123 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz /   448 kbps / DN -27dB)
Dolby Digital Audio             English           640 kbps      5.1 / 48 kHz /   640 kbps / DN -27dB
Dolby Digital Audio             Spanish           640 kbps      5.1 / 48 kHz /   640 kbps / DN -27dB
Dolby Digital Audio             French            640 kbps      5.1 / 48 kHz /   640 kbps / DN -27dB
Dolby Digital Audio             French            640 kbps      5.1 / 48 kHz /   640 kbps / DN -27dB
Dolby Digital Audio             Japanese          640 kbps      5.1 / 48 kHz /   640 kbps / DN -27dB
Dolby Digital Audio             English           224 kbps      2.0 / 48 kHz /   224 kbps / DN -31dB
Dolby Digital Audio             English           640 kbps      5.1 / 48 kHz /   640 kbps / DN -31dB

SUBTITLES:

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---------------                 -------------   -------------   -----------     
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Presentation Graphics           English         36.74 kbps      1920x1080 / 2210 Captions
Presentation Graphics           Danish          28.75 kbps      1920x1080 / 1808 Captions
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         32.16 kbps      1920x1080 / 1759 Captions (58 Forced Captions)
Presentation Graphics           French          28.07 kbps      1920x1080 / 1694 Captions (35 Forced Captions)
Presentation Graphics           French          33.72 kbps      1920x1080 / 1775 Captions (47 Forced Captions)
Presentation Graphics           Japanese        22.53 kbps      1920x1080 / 1724 Captions (1 Forced Caption)
Presentation Graphics           Dutch           29.73 kbps      1920x1080 / 1600 Captions
Presentation Graphics           Norwegian       29.84 kbps      1920x1080 / 1767 Captions
Presentation Graphics           Finnish         29.60 kbps      1920x1080 / 1812 Captions
Presentation Graphics           Swedish         30.16 kbps      1920x1080 / 1649 Captions
Presentation Graphics           English         83.72 kbps      1920x1080 / 3279 Captions
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         71.14 kbps      1920x1080 / 3015 Captions
Presentation Graphics           French          69.75 kbps      1920x1080 / 3191 Captions
Presentation Graphics           French          74.29 kbps      1920x1080 / 3246 Captions
Presentation Graphics           Japanese        52.01 kbps      1920x1080 / 2742 Captions
Presentation Graphics           Japanese         0.68 kbps      1920x1080 / 58 Captions

Hi you are right 4K is everywhere where but Quality itself is not guaranty that you will like to see the movies again and again with interest what Director wants you to enjoy.
But in this Franchise due to pressure of to excel in MI movies. This MI- Dead Reck.. part-1.
They breaks the MI series Theme and Entered Fast and Furious characters also. By seeing Fast X first and then MI-D-R you will be confused that you are watching Fast series not MI.
Like in First seen Its look like we are watching Eagle Eye than some part MI and then Fast X even you will see same location and building set in Car chase seen and then Yellow electric fiat cars.
This is confusing MI- Series. Even Fallout was impressive to see again and again.
SO FIRST CONTENT SHOULD BE BEST and Then 4K Resolution Creates more Impacts.

[Eurbane132]

Somebody should remove part 1 off the movie title.

[James Luckard]

Originally Posted by Eurbane132

Somebody should remove part 1 off the movie title.

It's the title of the movie, both as it appears onscreen in the actual film and on the packaging.

They only changed the title for streaming.

[Britnasty]

Originally Posted by James Luckard

It's the title of the movie, both as it appears onscreen in the actual film and on the packaging.

They only changed the title for streaming.

Nah, Paramount is re-releasing the 4K and Blu-ray’s with the Part One taken off. The 4K set of the film has been OOP for a while. There’s also a new 4K Steelbook coming with the name removed.

[James Luckard]

Originally Posted by Britnasty

Nah, Paramount is re-releasing the 4K and Blu-ray’s with the Part One taken off. The 4K set of the film has been OOP for a while. There’s also a new 4K Steelbook coming with the name removed.

It's still the title of the movie as it appeared onscreen during its original release, and in all marketing at the time.

It's the title under which the movie will forever by copyrighted.

It's also still the title at Wikipedia, IMDB, Box Office Mojo, Rotten Tomatoes.

The new title is just a marketing change, long after the fact.

Most importantly, the full original title is still the one in the database here, no matter what the individual thread title is.

[kylewhisper4]

Originally Posted by James Luckard

It's still the title of the movie as it appeared onscreen during its original release, and in all marketing at the time.

It's the title under which the movie will forever by copyrighted.

It's also still the title at Wikipedia, IMDB, Box Office Mojo, Rotten Tomatoes.

The new title is just a marketing change, long after the fact.

Most importantly, the full original title is still the one in the database here, no matter what the individual thread title is.

In time people will stop saying "Part One". I mean, no one calls Episode 4: A New Hope just "Star Wars" anymore. The more Paramount re-market the movie as simply "Dead Reckoning" the longer it'll stick. Wish films would stop marketing films as "Part One" and "Part Two". It worked maybe....twice? (Harry Potter and Hunger Games) but it's a trend that simply didn't catch on.

[James Luckard]

Originally Posted by kylewhisper4

In time people will stop saying "Part One". I mean, no one calls Episode 4: A New Hope just "Star Wars" anymore. The more Paramount re-market the movie as simply "Dead Reckoning" the longer it'll stick. Wish films would stop marketing films as "Part One" and "Part Two". It worked maybe....twice? (Harry Potter and Hunger Games) but it's a trend that simply didn't catch on.

I do. Most people I know in their 40s or above who grew up before the name change still call it Star Wars. It's younger people who call it by the newer name, in my experience.

As for this film, I wouldn't go buy how people refer to it in conversation. Heck, I doubt anyone even uses the Dead Reckoning title all that much. I've certainly never heard anyone speak the entire title out loud, with or without the "Part 1" suffix. In my experience in conversation, people just say "the last Mission movie" or "Mission:Impossible 7" or "the one with the huge train crash," while others in the franchise are referred to as "the one on the Burj Khalifa" or something, I rarely hear people use the entire clunky titles for the movies in this franchise. I certainly rarely remember them.

[suspiciouscoffee]

“Part One” wasn’t even removed from the actual streaming video, just the thumbnails and listings. It’s still in the text of the title sequence. Maybe they scrub it away at some point but if they were doing new discs for it I imagine the streaming versions would already have updated.

[suspiciouscoffee]

Originally Posted by kylewhisper4

In time people will stop saying "Part One". I mean, no one calls Episode 4: A New Hope just "Star Wars" anymore. The more Paramount re-market the movie as simply "Dead Reckoning" the longer it'll stick. Wish films would stop marketing films as "Part One" and "Part Two". It worked maybe....twice? (Harry Potter and Hunger Games) but it's a trend that simply didn't catch on.

Dune says hi.

[James Luckard]

Originally Posted by kylewhisper4

no one calls Episode 4: A New Hope just "Star Wars" anymore.

Nobody calls "Raiders of the Lost Ark" "Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark," even though that was the title used on almost all marketing for about 20 years.

[stonesfan129]

I didn't care for this one as much as past ones. I'd say Mission Impossible 2 is still my favorite one. It's pure, over the top, early 2000s action complete with doves and Tom Cruise's hair flying around.

Honestly though I still think Rogue Nation is solid and that's probably the best looking one in my home theater. The motorcycle chase scene just really comes alive on my 5.1 system.

I'll probably get Final Reckoning when it comes out but after that I won't buy anymore. I did the same with James Bond. NTTD might not be the last one they'll make, but it will be the last one I will buy and I consider it the final James Bond movie.