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Old 06-12-2025, 10:45 PM   #861
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The audio on the Blu ray is pitiful, it just sounds weak, those tracking error tape dropouts during that one scene are wild, I mean I hear better audio on fansubs. There is a Japanese and US LD, surely one of those has a solid digital mix or analog mix to be ripped, if they can rip a damn VHS tape they can rig up an LD, I know it isn't as simple as doing a tape but it's not like Shout started their company yesterday. I feel like they won't mess this up twice, since Hackers got the proper 5.1 on the UHD which Shout used to claim wasn't available.
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Old 06-13-2025, 12:24 AM   #862
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But here's a post confirming that the laserdisc that Shout did have access to (the JP LD most likely) did in fact sound worse than the VHS.
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...&postcount=818
The 6 year old post you are referencing literally says that the US Laserdisc audio is better than the VHS audio Shout used.

This makes no sense that you keep posting that the Laserdisc audio is "terrible" or "worse" than the VHS.

Yes, the post clearly references the existence of a poor quality Japanese Laserdisc that was also compared, but is irrelevant due to the existence of the excellent US Laserdisc.

So no need to keep perpetuating that the Laserdisc audio is "terrible."

Shout could have done better.

I don't have historical pricing on the US Laserdisc but I am sure Shout could have paid the ~$100 or less for a copy.
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Old 06-13-2025, 01:15 AM   #863
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The 6 year old post you are referencing literally says that the US Laserdisc audio is better than the VHS audio Shout used.

This makes no sense that you keep posting that the Laserdisc audio is "terrible" or "worse" than the VHS.

Yes, the post clearly references the existence of a poor quality Japanese Laserdisc that was also compared, but is irrelevant due to the existence of the excellent US Laserdisc.

So no need to keep perpetuating that the Laserdisc audio is "terrible."

Shout could have done better.

I don't have historical pricing on the US Laserdisc but I am sure Shout could have paid the ~$100 or less for a copy.
You're also overlooking that the US laserdisc is much more difficult to come by and Shout likely didn't have access to it.
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Why didn't you mention that before? Would have saved us all a lot of time
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Old 06-13-2025, 01:52 AM   #865
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You're also overlooking that the US laserdisc is much more difficult to come by and Shout likely didn't have access to it.
I overlooked nothing.

A home video company can certainly afford $100 or less as I said.

Go buy a copy on ebay. There are always copies available.

I have only replied to let others reading know that you were providing incorrect information, now that I have done that I won't be replying anymore.

Feel free to get the "last word" in.

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Old 06-13-2025, 02:15 AM   #866
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I overlooked nothing.

A home video company can certainly afford $100 or less as I said.

Go buy a copy on ebay. There are always copies available.

I have only replied to let others reading know that you were providing incorrect information, now that I have done that I won't be replying anymore.

Feel free to get the "last word" in.

Best wishes.
I mean what's incorrect about the fact that Warner failed to provide them with a proper audio element and had to work with the next available thing? Who's to say that they were able to access the US LD at the time? As far as I know they could've been blocked from it and were only provided with a VHS audio track. It's. 100%. Up. To. Warner. To. Provide. Them. With. The. Elements.

So there's your "last word" that you oh so begged for.
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Old 06-13-2025, 10:27 AM   #867
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I mean what's incorrect about the fact that Warner failed to provide them with a proper audio element and had to work with the next available thing? Who's to say that they were able to access the US LD at the time? As far as I know they could've been blocked from it and were only provided with a VHS audio track. It's. 100%. Up. To. Warner. To. Provide. Them. With. The. Elements.

So there's your "last word" that you oh so begged for.
Warner did not make this film. It's part of the Lorimar catalogue that they 'inherited'. So it stands to reason that there was a chance that they may not have obtained elements. Things weren't always looked after, Evilspeak and 976-Evil for example still don't seem to have film elements for the uncut versions unfortunately.

But obtaining a good quality LD should not have been a problem, regardless of it's rarity.
When Shout put out House III (The Horror Show), they claimed there was no elements available for the uncut version at a point when I knew full well there was. Arrow subsequently put it out uncut, proving that they were always there.
Shout could have located a laserdisc through the fanbase. They would have easily have been able to find one that way, and someone willing to let them use it to restore the original audio before returning it to them.
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When Shout put out House III (The Horror Show), they claimed there was no elements available for the uncut version at a point when I knew full well there was. Arrow subsequently put it out uncut, proving that they were always there.
Sorry we tried.
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