Speakers and Video - Blu-ray Forum

Perquacky · 09-15-2009, 09:11 PM

I have looked through the forums and could not find this. I broke down and bought a HTiB and it talks about how it is 1080p compatable. Why would the speakers need video? Normally, I would think, you would put the HDMI output from the blu-ray player into the input to the speakers. Bam, done. But in the manual, it says to then get another HDMI cable and put this on the output on the speakers to the TV. I just dont understand why this is and why 1080p would have anything to do with speakers. The only thing I can think of is it would then switch between the TV and Blue ray automatically. But if I only want the speakers to play on my blu-ray player and use the TV speakers for watching TV can I just use the one cable to teh player? Thanks.

Beta Man · 09-15-2009, 09:42 PM

Not entirely sure what you're talking about, but I'll take a stab at it.......

Your HTIB with pass-through 1080p video signals, so you can connect the Blu-ray player to the HTIB with an HDMI cable, the player sends the audio/video to the HTIB, then you can connect an HDMI from the HTIB to the T.V. and it will pass-along the 1080p signal....

I have my T.V/projector connected to my Player with HDMI, and another HDMI from the Player to the Receiver for audio.....

If your HTIB isn't capable of lossless audio, you could connect it with optical, etc. to get audio, and not get two HDMI cables, but I see little point in doing that.

Perquacky · 09-15-2009, 10:08 PM

Thanks for the reply. I think I understand now. I almost need to draw a picture. But it sounds like all this is just a way to have more options to use the speakers as a hub? I.e. currently, I have one HDMI going from my BD Player to my TV. Now, I add speakers. I can either A: leave the above alone and have the speakers connect to the BD player with HDMI. or B: Take the HDMI from my TV-BD and put that to my speakers and connect the speakers to the BD player. Two options look like this:

A: TV--HDMI--BD Player--HDMI--Speakers
B: TV--HDMI--Speakers--HDMI--BD Player

I guess option B would be best because I could choose to have the speakers on when Im just watcing TV? Looks like any way I do it, im going to have like 3 remotes because Sony doesnt work with other brands and I have a mixed up system here. Thanks for your help again.

Phil Taylor · 09-15-2009, 10:41 PM

OK - taking a stab here too ... but by speakers I guess that you are referring to the Audio/Video receiver (commonly called AVR) section of your HTiB - that's the amplifier device that your speaker wires run from. The proper signal path (as long as your HTiB has HDMI inputs and it seems yours does) is to run HDMI from your Blu-ray and/or cable/sat box to your AVR and one HDMI cable from your AVR to your TV. I think that is what you meant by option B above -- but note that signal path is usually denoted with the source first - then the destination.

As noted above by Beta Man -- the 1080p of your HTiB just means it will pass the higher quality video along to a display. Question is does it sample the audio (HDMI 1.3a) or do you need a separate digital audio cable for audio?

Also - get yourself a universal remote.

Perquacky · 09-15-2009, 10:49 PM

Perfect, thanks. The AVR is what I mean by speakers. At risk of confusing myself, why should you go from the BD player/sat box to the AVR then the TV? Guess teh reason I am dragging my feet to do that is I already have my wires from my TV all tucked away in the wall going to my BD player and it would be much easier to just slap the HDMI cable from my AVR to the BD player and being done with it. What is the disadvantage of doing it this way?

Trix · 09-15-2009, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Perquacky

Perfect, thanks. The AVR is what I mean by speakers. At risk of confusing myself, why should you go from the BD player/sat box to the AVR then the TV? Guess teh reason I am dragging my feet to do that is I already have my wires from my TV all tucked away in the wall going to my BD player and it would be much easier to just slap the HDMI cable from my AVR to the BD player and being done with it. What is the disadvantage of doing it this way?

To save yourself hours of grief, I would suggest posting your equipment (make and model) so that people can advise you how to hook it up, and then how to arrange your settings.

As far as "simplest", the HDMI going into your TV can be connected to the HDMI output of your AVR, and then your sources (cable box and BD player) would each plug into seperate inputs of the receiver. However, I fear that what you have is an HTIB, and that the "1080P" designation refers to its ability to upconvert DVDs. If this is the case, you may not have any HDMI inputs at all on it. Again, it would be easiest if we had models numbers...

Phil Taylor · 09-15-2009, 11:36 PM

One normally runs from A/V sources to the AVR first - then to the TV in order to get the best quality sound - that's why we buy surround sound systems right? If you try to take audio from the TV to your AVR the quality would not be as good - and a lot of TVs only pass digital audio from their internal tuners.

09-15-2009, 09:11 PM	#1
Perquacky Junior Member Member since:Aug 2009	Speakers and Video I have looked through the forums and could not find this. I broke down and bought a HTiB and it talks about how it is 1080p compatable. Why would the speakers need video? Normally, I would think, you would put the HDMI output from the blu-ray player into the input to the speakers. Bam, done. But in the manual, it says to then get another HDMI cable and put this on the output on the speakers to the TV. I just dont understand why this is and why 1080p would have anything to do with speakers. The only thing I can think of is it would then switch between the TV and Blue ray automatically. But if I only want the speakers to play on my blu-ray player and use the TV speakers for watching TV can I just use the one cable to teh player? Thanks.

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09-15-2009, 09:42 PM	#2
Beta Man Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Juuuuuuuust A Bit Outside.... Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:268 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:25	Not entirely sure what you're talking about, but I'll take a stab at it....... Your HTIB with pass-through 1080p video signals, so you can connect the Blu-ray player to the HTIB with an HDMI cable, the player sends the audio/video to the HTIB, then you can connect an HDMI from the HTIB to the T.V. and it will pass-along the 1080p signal.... I have my T.V/projector connected to my Player with HDMI, and another HDMI from the Player to the Receiver for audio..... If your HTIB isn't capable of lossless audio, you could connect it with optical, etc. to get audio, and not get two HDMI cables, but I see little point in doing that.

09-15-2009, 10:08 PM	#3
Perquacky Junior Member Member since:Aug 2009	Thanks for the reply. I think I understand now. I almost need to draw a picture. But it sounds like all this is just a way to have more options to use the speakers as a hub? I.e. currently, I have one HDMI going from my BD Player to my TV. Now, I add speakers. I can either A: leave the above alone and have the speakers connect to the BD player with HDMI. or B: Take the HDMI from my TV-BD and put that to my speakers and connect the speakers to the BD player. Two options look like this: A: TV--HDMI--BD Player--HDMI--Speakers B: TV--HDMI--Speakers--HDMI--BD Player I guess option B would be best because I could choose to have the speakers on when Im just watcing TV? Looks like any way I do it, im going to have like 3 remotes because Sony doesnt work with other brands and I have a mixed up system here. Thanks for your help again.

09-15-2009, 10:41 PM	#4
Phil Taylor Member Member since:Feb 2009 Location:OKC, OK	OK - taking a stab here too ... but by speakers I guess that you are referring to the Audio/Video receiver (commonly called AVR) section of your HTiB - that's the amplifier device that your speaker wires run from. The proper signal path (as long as your HTiB has HDMI inputs and it seems yours does) is to run HDMI from your Blu-ray and/or cable/sat box to your AVR and one HDMI cable from your AVR to your TV. I think that is what you meant by option B above -- but note that signal path is usually denoted with the source first - then the destination. As noted above by Beta Man -- the 1080p of your HTiB just means it will pass the higher quality video along to a display. Question is does it sample the audio (HDMI 1.3a) or do you need a separate digital audio cable for audio? Also - get yourself a universal remote.

09-15-2009, 10:49 PM	#5
Perquacky Junior Member Member since:Aug 2009	Perfect, thanks. The AVR is what I mean by speakers. At risk of confusing myself, why should you go from the BD player/sat box to the AVR then the TV? Guess teh reason I am dragging my feet to do that is I already have my wires from my TV all tucked away in the wall going to my BD player and it would be much easier to just slap the HDMI cable from my AVR to the BD player and being done with it. What is the disadvantage of doing it this way?

09-15-2009, 11:36 PM	#7
Phil Taylor Member Member since:Feb 2009 Location:OKC, OK	One normally runs from A/V sources to the AVR first - then to the TV in order to get the best quality sound - that's why we buy surround sound systems right? If you try to take audio from the TV to your AVR the quality would not be as good - and a lot of TVs only pass digital audio from their internal tuners.

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