The Devils (1971) - Page 2 - Blu-ray Forum

BobSimms · 06-28-2025, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by alexroubaix

I ordered it from yesasia https://www.yesasia.com/us/113448926...0-en/info.html

Hopefully it's not blurred.

Please let us know when you get it and have had a watch of it!

alexroubaix · 07-01-2025, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BobSimms

Please let us know when you get it and have had a watch of it!

Shipping date got delayed at yesasia until July 5 due to a supplier/distributor issue.

I have expedited shipping, so as soon as I get it, I will report back.

Hopefully somebody gets it earlier.

alexroubaix · 07-01-2025, 11:20 AM

As I await the blu-ray, here is a review that is translated from the Amazon.co.jp product page of the blu-ray:

"Director Ken Russell has many disturbing works, but this is the Blu-ray version of one of the biggest.

The famous chaos at Loudun has been visualized in a truly chaotic way (how can I put it, I'm not sure how much of Aldous Huxley's book it's based on is true).

But the direction is perfect, the art by Derek Jarman is superb, and the dissonant music throughout is amazing, so I have no complaints.

The Blu-ray released this time is probably the complete version, as it includes the infamous rape of Christ scene, which was cut from the British DVD that was previously released as the X-rated complete version, and the scene with Grandier's bones near the end.

However, the quality of the image in both scenes is a little rough compared to other parts, which may be due to the quality of the footage.

Other bonus features include the original trailer, a trailer for the software, making-of footage (about 20 minutes long. I think it was also included on the UK version), a photo gallery, and trailers for other films.
Audio is English DTS-HDMA 2.0ch and English Dolby Digital 2.0ch.
There is no dubbing (it would be a pain if there was)."

BobSimms · 07-01-2025, 01:43 PM

Sounds promising. No blurred bushes mentioned.

ABaglivi · 07-01-2025, 06:38 PM

Contrary to the review translated from Amazon, the BFI DVD does include the ROC scene.

Streetlight · 07-01-2025, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ABaglivi

Contrary to the review translated from Amazon, the BFI DVD does include the ROC scene.

BFI was only allowed to include the UK Cut and the ROC scene & the femur scene was removed from the documentary.

BobSimms · 07-02-2025, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Streetlight

BFI was only allowed to include the UK Cut and the ROC scene & the femur scene was removed from the documentary.

Can you clarify what you mean by this?

Streetlight · 07-02-2025, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BobSimms

Can you clarify what you mean by this?

https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=369467

dallywhitty · 07-02-2025, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ABaglivi

Contrary to the review translated from Amazon, the BFI DVD does include the ROC scene.

It absolutely does not.

ABaglivi · 07-02-2025, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dallywhitty

It absolutely does not.

The two disc BFI set absolutely does include the ROC scene. I just ran the disc.

BobSimms · 07-02-2025, 04:40 PM

Conflicting reports! I just have no idea what is being communicated when people talk about the BFI DVD release. The cut scenes are included in the documentary, but not in the film? One of the cut scenes is in the documentary but the other is not? Who knows??

ABaglivi · 07-02-2025, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BobSimms

Conflicting reports! I just have no idea what is being communicated when people talk about the BFI DVD release. The cut scenes are included in the documentary, but not in the film? One of the cut scenes is in the documentary but the other is not? Who knows??

The ROC scene is in the film of the BFI DVD. The femur scene is not.

dallywhitty · 07-02-2025, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BobSimms

Conflicting reports! I just have no idea what is being communicated when people talk about the BFI DVD release. The cut scenes are included in the documentary, but not in the film? One of the cut scenes is in the documentary but the other is not? Who knows??

The BFI DVD does not have the Rape of Christ sequence. Not only were the BFI not granted access to the director's cut, but they were only allowed to include a censored version of the Hell on Earth documentary.

I have no idea what ABaglivi is on about tbh.

ABaglivi · 07-02-2025, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dallywhitty

The BFI DVD does not have the Rape of Christ sequence. Not only were the BFI not granted access to the director's cut, but they were only allowed to include a censored version of the Hell on Earth documentary.

I have no idea what ABaglivi is on about tbh.

If you have the BFI DVD please watch it and tell me the ROC is not there.

dallywhitty · 07-02-2025, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ABaglivi

If you have the BFI DVD please watch it and tell me the ROC is not there.

I have the BFI DVD. I've watched it several times. That scene ain't there, baby.

ABaglivi · 07-02-2025, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dallywhitty

I have the BFI DVD. I've watched it several times. That scene ain't there, baby.

Is it the two DVD set? Mine has the scene in the film. Your DVD must be defective. Amen. You can have the last word.

dallywhitty · 07-02-2025, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ABaglivi

Is it the two DVD set? Mine has the scene in the film. Your DVD must be defective. Amen. You can have the last word.

TooOldToDieYoung · 07-02-2025, 07:34 PM

"It was thanks to critic Mark Kermode, along with director Paul Joyce, that these two scenes, thought to be missing, were unearthed from an archive and reinstated by the film's original editor Michael Bradsell. However, in spite of renewed pressure for this full director's cut to be released, it remains unavailable. That's despite the fact that when members of the BBFC attended a special screening of the cut in 2002, they had no issue with the reinstated scenes. Various petitions for Warner Bros to release it are ongoing. According to Kermode, in a 2014 episode of his video blog Kermode Uncut, their last response suggested the film's "distasteful tonality" to be the barrier to its future re-release. Instead, audiences have to make do with the truncated versions: in the UK, the British cut can be viewed thanks to the 2012 BFI DVD release, while in the US, the 108 minute cut Russell was so unhappy with is available to stream on iTunes America."

https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/...being-censored

Cremildo · 07-02-2025, 07:54 PM

ABaglivi is clearly confusing the cut "rape of Christ" sequence with some other moment still in the film. Even the booklet says the missing footage is "the primary stumbling block preventing Warners from authorising the release of Russell's 2004 director's cut".

It is not on the BFI DVD.

BobSimms · 07-02-2025, 08:15 PM

We need to get to the bottom of this. ABaglivi, please play the scene as it appears on your DVD and record your TV with your phone’s video camera and upload to YouTube and post it here.

07-01-2025, 11:20 AM	#23
alexroubaix Senior Member Member since:Aug 2009 Location:Denver, CO Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:2	As I await the blu-ray, here is a review that is translated from the Amazon.co.jp product page of the blu-ray: "Director Ken Russell has many disturbing works, but this is the Blu-ray version of one of the biggest. The famous chaos at Loudun has been visualized in a truly chaotic way (how can I put it, I'm not sure how much of Aldous Huxley's book it's based on is true). But the direction is perfect, the art by Derek Jarman is superb, and the dissonant music throughout is amazing, so I have no complaints. The Blu-ray released this time is probably the complete version, as it includes the infamous rape of Christ scene, which was cut from the British DVD that was previously released as the X-rated complete version, and the scene with Grandier's bones near the end. However, the quality of the image in both scenes is a little rough compared to other parts, which may be due to the quality of the footage. Other bonus features include the original trailer, a trailer for the software, making-of footage (about 20 minutes long. I think it was also included on the UK version), a photo gallery, and trailers for other films. Audio is English DTS-HDMA 2.0ch and English Dolby Digital 2.0ch. There is no dubbing (it would be a pain if there was)."

07-01-2025, 01:43 PM	#24
BobSimms Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Apr 2018	Sounds promising. No blurred bushes mentioned.

07-01-2025, 06:38 PM	#25
ABaglivi Active Member Member since:Jun 2010 Location:Westbury, NY 4K collection:124 Blu-ray collection:2017 DVD collection:212 Blu-ray reviews:1	Contrary to the review translated from Amazon, the BFI DVD does include the ROC scene.

07-02-2025, 04:40 PM	#31
BobSimms Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Apr 2018	Conflicting reports! I just have no idea what is being communicated when people talk about the BFI DVD release. The cut scenes are included in the documentary, but not in the film? One of the cut scenes is in the documentary but the other is not? Who knows??

07-02-2025, 07:34 PM	#38
TooOldToDieYoung Active Member Member since:Sep 2022 Location:Germany	"It was thanks to critic Mark Kermode, along with director Paul Joyce, that these two scenes, thought to be missing, were unearthed from an archive and reinstated by the film's original editor Michael Bradsell. However, in spite of renewed pressure for this full director's cut to be released, it remains unavailable. That's despite the fact that when members of the BBFC attended a special screening of the cut in 2002, they had no issue with the reinstated scenes. Various petitions for Warner Bros to release it are ongoing. According to Kermode, in a 2014 episode of his video blog Kermode Uncut, their last response suggested the film's "distasteful tonality" to be the barrier to its future re-release. Instead, audiences have to make do with the truncated versions: in the UK, the British cut can be viewed thanks to the 2012 BFI DVD release, while in the US, the 108 minute cut Russell was so unhappy with is available to stream on iTunes America." https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/...being-censored

07-02-2025, 07:54 PM	#39
Cremildo Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Jul 2011 Location:Brazil 4K collection:165 Blu-ray collection:1050 Trading Score:51	ABaglivi is clearly confusing the cut "rape of Christ" sequence with some other moment still in the film. Even the booklet says the missing footage is "the primary stumbling block preventing Warners from authorising the release of Russell's 2004 director's cut". It is not on the BFI DVD.

07-02-2025, 08:15 PM	#40
BobSimms Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Apr 2018	We need to get to the bottom of this. ABaglivi, please play the scene as it appears on your DVD and record your TV with your phone’s video camera and upload to YouTube and post it here.

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