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Old 08-27-2025, 12:46 AM   #3721
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Not sure if that is true. Robert was KINDA involved with the production of Deadpool & Wolverine.
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There is a script for Avengers: Kang Dynasty that has leaked online. Written by Jeff Loveness before the Russo's came back and changed everything. Not sure if its legit, but I'm going to give it a read.
It took 5 months but I finally read this. I think its legit. Definitely needs some refining/re-writing. Tons of different characters in it, but most of them feel like background characters and get only 1-2 lines in the story. The characters that I would say are the leads/get the most focus are: Peter Parker, Scott Lang, Sam Wilson, Kamala Khan and Wonder Man.

I'll keep it in spoilers tags since who knows how much it Marvel is keeping for Avengers: Doomsday (if any) and since some it might spoil future MCU movies/tv that haven't come out yet (like Wonder Man). If the mods want I can post this in a different thread.

Act 1
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After Ant-Man 3, Kang the Conqueror gets sucked out of the multiverse into the "The Beyond".

Then it moves to the Council of Kangs, led by Rama-Tut (the one in the Quantumania post credit scene who looked like a Pharoah), Centurion (the one with the metallic body suit) and Immortus (the one who looked like Lo Pan from Big Trouble in Little China). Immortus is the leader of all the Kang's.

They are in their arena, from the Quantumania post credit scene, and are sacrificing the Fox X-Men. They're all strung up on X shaped crosses and their blood is being drained. Professor X, Magneto, Wolverine, Cyclops, Storm and Beast are specifically mentioned. They drink their blood. They learn that the Nega Bands and Ten Rings are on the MCU Earth. Rama Tut wants to use them to kill X-Men and Fantastic Four variants. Immortus says instead let's kill every hero in every reality.

Loki is holding together time and he see's Morbius and the TVA create a "Multiverse Avengers" to train and defeat the Kangs. They recruit 2 Spider-Mans (Tobey and Andrew), Wolverine, Deadpool, Ghost Rider, Fantastic Four w/Franklin. This is written as a montage. Nic Cage's Ghost Rider isn't mentioned here but when they appear later he's apart of the team. Loki shouts "We needed more time" as he realizes the Kang's are making their move.

Ant-Man is having nightmares about Kang. He tries to call Sam and Happy Hogan to warn them, but they ignore his calls. Nobody believes him about the Kang's.

Spider-Man and Miles Morales work together in NYC. Miles loves being Spider-Man while Peter is struggling after the events of No Way Home. He see's pictures of his Ned and MJ on social media. MJ is kissing her college boyfriend. Kamala Khan is having nightmares about Monica Rambeau, who in her dreams is trying to warn her. She goes to Carol Danvers who takes her to see Wong. They realized that the Nega Bands and the 10 Rings are a beacon attracting the Kangs. Whatever was planned for Doctor Strange 3 must have led right into The Kang Dynasty as Doctor Strange, Clea arrive to warn everyone about the Council of Kang’s. America Chavez is also there, still training.

Hulk, She-Hulk, Scaar, Shang-Chi are experimenting with the Ten Rings when Wong arrives and tells them to stop.

The New Avengers are Sam Wilson, Riri Williams, New Falcon, Rhodey, and Shuri. They are stationed in Wakanda. Sam says that he’s been trying to reunite the rest of the Avengers but says that half of the team is off world and the rest don’t want to be found

Clint Barton's living on the farm and goes to a store in town and Wonder Man is being taken to a play by Trevor Slattery to cheer him up. Wonder Man is depressed from the death of his fiancé (from the upcoming series?). As Clint is walking around town and as Wonder Man leaves the play, Immortus, Rama-Tut and Centurion appear in the sky to tell the Earth that it will be destroyed.

Immediately, multi-versal portals appear in the sky and war ships come through and begin to destroy major cities and landmarks (Empire State Building, Eiffel Tower). Think Independence Day. Moon Knight in London and Daredevil in NYC watch people panic. Peter Quill and his grandfather are in a church when it gets blown up from one of the blasts. Quill survives. Hank Pym, Janet and Hope Van Dyne and Cassie Lang are all killed during the attack on San Francisco. Pepper Potts, Morgan Stark and Happy Hogan are at the Stark Cabin are also killed in the destruction.

Nick Fury is in the Shield ship trying to establish communication with the governments of the world.

Immortus parks his base/warship above the Earth while Rama-Tut and Centurion build a fortress in Washington DC where the conduit is.


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Heroes arrive in Wakanda, which hasn’t been destroyed yet: We get the first appearances of Thor w/Love, Valkyrie, Rocket, Groot, Adam Warlock, Phyla-Vell and Cosmo, Punisher and Kate Bishop. They also reveal Kang’s are Nathaniel Richards and from the 31st century.

The heroes form into 3 teams, led by Sam, Spider-Man and Doctor Strange, to save the universe.

Team 1 (Earthbound): Sam, Captain Marvel, Hulk, She-Hulk, Skaar, Wonder Man, Shuri, Ms. Marvel, Star Lord, Rocket Raccoon, Groot, new Falcon

Team 2 (Street Level): Spider-Man, Miles Morales, Daredevil, Punisher, Ant-Man, Hawkeye, Kate Bishop, Ironheart, War Machine, Moon Knight

Team 3 (Cosmic): Doctor Strange, Clea, Wong, America Chavez, Thor, Love, Valkyrie, Shang-Chi, Adam Warlock, Phyla-Vell, Cosmo the dog.

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Team One, Target: Immortus. Destroy his base and keep the Nega-Bands safe.

Team Two, Target: Rama-Tut. Destroy his Fortress and the Conduit. (The conduit is a machine they are going to use to merge the Ten Rings and Nega Bands, I think)

Team Three, Target: Centurion. Also, Keep the 10 Rings Safe.
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The surviving world leaders/politicians, who have arrived in Wakanda, blame the Avengers for what's happened. They don’t trust them and want to use Ross’ Adamantium Sentinels to protect the Earth. They tell Fury to activate the Sentinels, he declines and says he’ll only do it as a last resort. The Adamantium Sentinels could have been introduced in the original version of Cap 4 since Sam Wilson is already aware of their existence in the script.

After Avengers leave for their missions, the politicians activate the Sentinels without Fury and send them to attack Immortus base.

The missions start, it cuts back and forth between each mission but I'll just list them all together. Lots of characters get killed, but there are several characters that don't have death scenes written down but they don't appear again in the story. There are parts written as "The Avengers bravely defeat waves of Kang's, but they Kang's fight back and Avengers begin to fall". Anyone who doesn't have a death scene I'm assuming died during those parts.

Team 1: Immortus blows up the Avengers space ship as it approaches, takes over the Sentinels and has them destroy Wakanda. He tries to take the bands from Kamala, but Wonder Man blasts Immortus across space. The heroes battle Immortus' guard. Rocket presses a button on his belt and Bucky’s arm snaps onto his shoulder, and he starts beating up guards (Bucky is not in the script at all for some reason). Immortus returns, wounds Falcon and tries to kill Sam. Star Lord jumps in the way and is killed. Immortus singlehandedly kills Groot, Rocket, Captain Marvel, She-Hulk and Skaar. He gets one of the Nega Bands on. Wonder Man gets Kamala to give him the other band to fight Immortus and sends the remaining survivors (Sam, Shuri, Hulk and Kamala) through a portal back to Earth. Immortus beats/kills Wonder Man and gets the other band.

Team Two: Moon Knight fights Rama-Tut but is defeated and he turns into Jake Lockley. Ironheart and War Machine are killed while trying to get to the conduit, the script says Rhodey’s armor is ripped off his body by hordes of Kangs. Spider-Man tries to get to the conduit, but Rama-Tut attacks him. Rama-Tut prepares to kill him and Miles tries to protect him. Rama-Tut kills Miles by impaling him with his scepter. Scott becomes Giant Man and starts stepping on/crushing all the Kangs but Rama-Tut drops him with a laser blast. Clint is mortally wounded and dies in Kate’s arms. Kate asks Jake Lockley for help, and he turns back into Spector/Moon Knight, goes on a rampage, and is joined in battle by Khonshu. Rama-Tut kills Khonshu, then fights Moon Knight again. Moon Knight manages to partially destroy the conduit before Rama-Tut kills him.

Team Three: America Chavez creates portal after portal so Strange’s team can go through different realities while Centurion and his army chase them (to get the Ten Rings). They wind up in the Chaos dimension where Centurion tries to take the Book of Vishanti, but is stopped. Centurion transports everyone to the quantum realm. Centurion kills Love, then gets defeated in battle by Shang-Chi. A dying Clea opens a portal for the survivors (Thor, Strange, Wong, Shang-Chi and America Chavez) to go back to Earth. Before they go, Centurion steals Strange’s sling ring and goes through a portal of his own. Strange’s stays behind to go after Centurion.

Strange chases Centurion through different realities. He gets his sling ring back, but Centurion teleports back to Rama-Tut’s base. A portal opens and the FF appear and Strange goes with them back to TVA headquarters where he meets Wolverine, Deadpool, Tobey, Andrew and Ghost Rider. All “anchor beings”. Reed is building a “Life Ark” and tells Strange they need his worlds' Spider-Man and Kamala Khan.

Immortus and Centurion join Rama-Tut on Earth. Immortus has Centurion’s generals executed for failing to get the Ten rings. Immortus manipulates Rama-Tut into killing Centurion. Immortus is named “Kang Prime”.


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We go back to Kang the Conqueror in the beyond. Clones of him materialize and tell him he's a failure. He flashes back to being married to a woman named Ravonna. He became the Conqueror so he could destroy the universes of his variants in The Kang Dynasty. Destroying them all before they could destroy his universe. He gets captured by the Dynasty. Before he gets sent into exile, Kang is able to take control of his time chair and escape; he goes back to his universe to find everything destroyed and Ravonna (pregnant with twins) murdered. The Dynasty find him and exile him to the Quantum realm.

Kang remembers that his wife told him that if the universe died, they could rebuild it together. I still don’t understand this, but somehow he absorbs all of his clones and becomes Beyonder Kang (because he came from “The Beyond”, get it?) and escapes from the Beyond Zone.

The surviving Avengers are hiding out in a Stark bunker, mourning their dead. The script specifically mentions Sam, Spider-Man, Hulk, Ant-Man, Shang-Chi, Thor and Ms. Marvel. (No mention of Shuri, American Chavez, Wong even though they escaped as well. Maybe the studio wasn't sure what they wanted to do with those characters yet?)

The Kang Dynasty finds them and Kang Prime/Immortus and Rama-Tut confront them with their army. It becomes a homage to 300 (the script even refers to Immortus as Xerxes as this point). Immortus offers Sam to become his Messenger of Death, to wear the 10 rings and execute his enemies across the multiverse. Sam shouts “Avengers Assemble” and they charge them. They all get mowed down, with Hulk, Thor and Sam dying, but Sam throws his shield and manages to cut Immortus face. Shocking Immortus (who claimed to be a God), Rama-Tut and the rest of the Kang army.

Shang-Chi fights Immortus. He tries to use the power of the Ten Rings, but Immortus uses the Nega Bands to easily defeat/kill him. Immortus tries to take the rings, but they shoot up into the sky and Beyonder Kang comes down from the sky, wearing the rings and, has his clones as his army.

Both armies battle and reality begins to fall apart. In Yggdrasil, Loki tries to hold the timelines together.

During the battle, the TVA ark arrives. Strange, the anchor beings and the FF come onto the battlefield. Wolverine and Deadpool attack any Kang that gets in their way, Tobey and Andrew grab Spider-Man/Tom Holland and Ms. Marvel and leave. It’s not mentioned what happens to Ant-Man as this point. It doesn't mention that the "Multiverse Avengers" they take him with them, yet he’s still alive like 2 pages earlier when Beyonder Kang arrives (Scott says “That’s him. That’s Kang”) on the battlefield.

Beyonder Kang kills Rama-Tut and fights Immortus. They fight through different realities and crash into Yggdrasil. Loki tries to stop them but gets killed by Immortus. Beyonder Kang actually tries to save him, but then just throws his dying body aside. Beyonder Kang kills Immortus and destroys the multiverse in the process. The heroes in the Ark watch entire realities die before Beyonder reforms reality into what he wants, taking remaining pieces of dying worlds and turns it into Battleworld.

The heroes on the Ark survive, on Battleworld, but they are "trapped by chains of energy" the script says. Beyonder wanders through a field and finds Ravonna alive, and they kiss as the script ends.

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Old 08-28-2025, 07:29 PM   #3725
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[Show spoiler]That would be very interesting, to see Peggy's reaction to Loki in the 1940s. It could either be a knowing smile with something like "Steve told me about you", or maybe he suddenly appears and she's like "Steve! Would you mind explaining this?!"
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Thank god the MCU fandom is dying. Kevin Feige just imports the crew and some of the cast from his favorite TV show Community and people hail him as a genius. Also two writers from Rick And Morty for some reason. His second favorite show I assume?

Last 3 MCU movies tanked, so kinda hard to justify the budget price tag of 1 billion for this feature.
What worked for Infinity War was that it picked up where the last movie (Thor) left off, no filler.
This movie is going to have to spend so much screen time explaining how all these other characters got to this timeline and the introduction of Dr. Doom, because none of the other previous movies had any build up. I already know its gonna end on a massive predictable cliffhanger.
Kang was a much more interesting intimidating villain. With his army of variants. We've seen Doom have his ass handed to him in 3 previous cinematic iterations. They better have like 2 other villains for the bad guys to pose any actual threat to the teams.

And an entire year plus change for a release date with no other movies besides Spider-man taking up a slot? How do they not expect interest not to wane until then? That's where these fake scoops and leaks are coming from; the studio in order to keep the property in the publics mind.
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[Show spoiler]Bringing back Steve Rogers just to tickle at people's nostalgia would just obliterate the poignancy of Endgame's ending. So after they're already bringing back RDJ I would not be surprised if it's true
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[Show spoiler]Bringing back Steve Rogers just to tickle at people's nostalgia would just obliterate the poignancy of Endgame's ending. So after they're already bringing back RDJ I would not be surprised if it's true
They are desperate is all. The normies have rejected nearly every new character introduced from Phases 4 to 6. They squandered the opportunity and the damage to the brand is real.
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‘Avengers: Doomsday’ – Tenoch Huerta Opens Up About Namor’s Return

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I believe it, I guess someone finally told him to STFU with the adlibbing, he isn't funny.
I am always curious when I hear about these sort of things whether it's genuinely an on set drama OR they've basically started seeding it as a means to get people online aware of Doomsday and leaning into how Deadpool (Reynolds) will drive Room (Downey) up the wall with his antics in the movie and prime that through this manufactured alleged conflict on set.

I think Reynolds isn't everybody's cup of tea and I have heard some crappy things about his behaviour towards certain situations but isn't that almost most Hollywood actors or celebs in general that let their own hype get to their heads thinking they're numero Uno.
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Thank god the MCU fandom is dying.
You know no one is forcing you to watch them right?

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Kevin Feige just imports the crew and some of the cast from his favorite TV show Community and people hail him as a genius. Also two writers from Rick And Morty for some reason. His second favorite show I assume?
It's normal to work with people you like? Not sure why this is relevant. Do you have a problem with Nolan having worked with Hans Zimmer so often?

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At least Doctor Doom never got defeated by Ant Man


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And an entire year plus change for a release date with no other movies besides Spider-man taking up a slot?
Spider-Man AKA one of the biggest franchises in history? Seems like a good lead-in to me.

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How do they not expect interest not to wane until then? That's where these fake scoops and leaks are coming from; the studio in order to keep the property in the publics mind.
Marketing. Spider-Man being the movie before this. Time will tell how successful it is, but it's not that hard to imagine a world that Spider-Man and this do exceptionally well. Likely not as well as their previous outings, but that's okay. I agree that the MCU as a whole is trending down and that that's worrisome, but next year's films are basically guaranteed hits.
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I am really skeptical about this one. By the 1990’s, the comics had became so convoluted and diluted the brand so badly that they had become unenjoyable to seasoned readers, let alone new readers. The films and television shows have done the same thing; when it became homework rather than fun to keep up with the new directions (Eternals, etc), I have lost much of my interest here, but not my curiosity. I keep hoping for a return to greatness, but I don’t think that this will be it. Blu Bonnetts team reveals only made me less interested in it, but definitely still curious enough to see it. I barely remember several of the characters BB shared with us.
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With the mutliverse storyline, shouldn't we expect every character that could possibly show up - deceased or not - to show up???
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Not me.
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At least Doctor Doom never got defeated by Ant Man
Are you saying that Ant-Man is a lesser hero?
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Last 3 MCU movies ̶t̶a̶n̶k̶e̶d̶ barely broken even $.

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I am always curious when I hear about these sort of things whether it's genuinely an on set drama OR they've basically started seeding it as a means to get people online aware of Doomsday and leaning into how Deadpool (Reynolds) will drive Room (Downey) up the wall with his antics in the movie and prime that through this manufactured alleged conflict on set.
That's what I'm saying, fake drama advertisement. They know those headlines churn up hype.

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With the mutliverse storyline, shouldn't we expect every character that could possibly show up - deceased or not - to show up???
I would expect Charlize Theron's character from Dr Strange to show up, but I doubt she will.

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