Jaws 4K UHD (1975) 45th & 50th Anniversary Editions

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

With the right crowd it's great, with a load of twats or even just one unruly f*cktard it's abysmal. I don't have the time to go to the cinema these days, the last time I went was literally a year ago, but when I do I don't care if I'm the only one there. As much as people can enhance the experience I'm not there to watch their reactions, I'm there to watch the movie in a way I can't do at home. If I wanted to hang around with people I'd go somewhere else. But I wouldn't, because people are cretins.

One of the best crowds ever for me was seeing American Pie 2 on opening night. Pretty packed theater. As funny as I found the movie, the crowd's roaring laughter in those moments made it all that much better/funnier. Great time.

[Led Zappa]

Originally Posted by aladdin123

There have always been very unruly people in theaters, especially psycopathic teens. The difference is that now, with the existence of smartphones and social media, they have more tools than ever before to be disruptive. They now have the tools to be even more disruptive than it was possible before.

I always get annoyed that every session has a few people using a phone. It's not the majority of people, but there are always those who can't truly let go of their phone, they once in a while open their phone to text and see messages. Even when it doesn't disrupt me, even when the phone screen's light is low, it makes me furious and pulls me out of the movie. Someday I'm going to lose my temper and actually break someone's phone. I don't get why movie theaters don't enforce rules that make everyone give away their phones before entering a screening.

Seinfeld - We're gonna take it outside and I'm gonna show you what it's like - YouTube

[sojrner]

Originally Posted by blueman_Richie

Where does "the window darkening rotoscoping" occur? Never heard about this detail before.

The night shots on the Orca, inside and out, have been made a much darker blue that is particularly visible on the windows inside. Whether it's Power Windows, rotoscoping, or some other new targeted timing, it's part of the recent master. At certain angles during that night scene, around all the stray hairs on Quint and Hooper, you can see the old gray sky halo munged with the new blue. (That blue color kinda looks unnatural if you ask me, and the darkening makes the barrel light outside look funnier than before too)

It's a goofy thing that is more noticeable on such a large screen and it niggles as to why they chose to meddle with such an amazing scene. Still minor, but visible...

[crissrudd4554]

It’s probably the one scene in the 4K remaster I have the hardest time watching. It’s THAT distracting. I watched the 4K disc with my mother on the 50th anniversary and even she was able to notice the blue leaking into Quint’s hair.

[Martoto]

Doesn't register with me beyond "Oh that's been changed". Which was my reaction when I saw the 4K for the first time. I quickly accepted it.

[baloobas]

The scene right after the kids with the cardboard fin where Brody says “What now?” and his wife tells him “Michael’s in the pond” - was it always possible to hear a tannoy in the background announcing “it’s ok folks, it was only a prank…” etc.?

I definitely felt I was hearing things I never heard before with this release but I could also be going senile so factor that in before you pass judgement.

[Martoto]

Originally Posted by baloobas

The scene right after the kids with the cardboard fin where Brody says “What now?” and his wife tells him “Michael’s in the pond” - was it always possible to hear a tannoy in the background announcing “it’s ok folks, it was only a prank…” etc.?

I definitely felt I was hearing things I never heard before with this release but I could also be going senile so factor that in before you pass judgement.

That's always been there.

When the guy is being attacked in the pond, you can better distinguish the screams of Mike's friends from the victim's.

There has always been a rumbling, rushing sound effect at various points of the movie, when the shark was attacking. I think I heard it less in the night-time attack than usual. And at other times it was louder, like right before and after Quint gets it.

[bigrob]

Originally Posted by baloobas

The scene right after the kids with the cardboard fin where Brody says “What now?” and his wife tells him “Michael’s in the pond” - was it always possible to hear a tannoy in the background announcing “it’s ok folks, it was only a prank…” etc.?

I definitely felt I was hearing things I never heard before with this release but I could also be going senile so factor that in before you pass judgement.

I remember hearing that at the 4DX screening i attended on Saturday

[CreasyBear]

Originally Posted by baloobas

The scene right after the kids with the cardboard fin where Brody says “What now?” and his wife tells him “Michael’s in the pond” - was it always possible to hear a tannoy in the background announcing “it’s ok folks, it was only a prank…” etc.?

I definitely felt I was hearing things I never heard before with this release but I could also be going senile so factor that in before you pass judgement.

Yes, that's been on every version I've ever seen.

[crissrudd4554]

Originally Posted by baloobas

The scene right after the kids with the cardboard fin where Brody says “What now?” and his wife tells him “Michael’s in the pond” - was it always possible to hear a tannoy in the background announcing “it’s ok folks, it was only a prank…” etc.?

I definitely felt I was hearing things I never heard before with this release but I could also be going senile so factor that in before you pass judgement.

If it’s the line where a guy says “Come on lady. It’s overrrrrrr!” then yes that lines always been present.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by sojrner

The night shots on the Orca, inside and out, have been made a much darker blue that is particularly visible on the windows inside. Whether it's Power Windows, rotoscoping, or some other new targeted timing, it's part of the recent master. At certain angles during that night scene, around all the stray hairs on Quint and Hooper, you can see the old gray sky halo munged with the new blue. (That blue color kinda looks unnatural if you ask me, and the darkening makes the barrel light outside look funnier than before too)

It's a goofy thing that is more noticeable on such a large screen and it niggles as to why they chose to meddle with such an amazing scene. Still minor, but visible...

The alteration itself isn't the main problem for me, it's how it's been executed which is sloppy AF, like roto work from 20 years ago. Reminds me of the new digital lighting added to the climax of CE3K, it doesn't look terrible in itself but the new shot of the big reveal over Devil's Tower has some awful banding. Again, just sloppy.

[crissrudd4554]

Originally Posted by crissrudd4554

And to add insult to injury the mono on the 4K is even lossier than the one on the initial BD which was already lossy. The mono the BD is 768kbps, the mono on the 4K is 447kps which is roughly the same as the 5.1 mix on the DVD! Now granted lossy/lossless should be taken with a grain of salt. Even at a lossy DVD compression of 192kbps the mono on the 2005 DVD is still my favorite version of the mono also Frankenstein’s mono on 4K/BD is lossless but is heavily filtered and DNR’d compared to other releases. Universal just doesn’t care about audio.

I just want to clarify something real quick. Despite what I said in this quote plus a few other posts, my issue with the mono on both the BD and 4K is actually not the compression, it’s the mastering. It has filtering done to it that just makes it sound flat in some instances. Not enough that I won’t take it over the revisionist remix but enough that it sticks out to me.

One thing I’ve learned in owning multiple versions of movies especially in recent times is lossy and lossless compression in some instances can be meaningless. I could probably give you a short list of lossless tracks that IMO sound poorly mastered compared to some lossy versions. The 2005 DVD of Jaws had a mono track that despite its compression rate of 192kbps still sounds far less filtered than the 447kbps mono on the 4K.

Even the lossless mono of the Jaws LD has some filtering done to it in my ears. I recently made an MKV version of Jaws ripped from the BD (I don’t have the means to rip 4K discs at the moment) where I’ve included four audio tracks: the BD 7.1 remix (not my favorite track but included it anyways), the BD mono, the LD mono (obtained over at FanRes), the 2005 DVD mono (personally sync’d by me). Listening to the LD it’s just not grabbing me the way I hoped it would. I’d even say some of the BD mono track sounds better despite the filtering. The 2005 mono is still the sweet spot IMO.

Frankenstein has a lossless mono on both BD and 4K and that film has sounded flat and dull since 2004. The Terminator 4K includes a lossless mono track and several have complained it sounds too filtered. I like it for what it is but maybe that’s born out of the relief of finally having a new release of the film with the mono at all. Which brings me back to JAWS. Yes the included mono isn’t perfect. Yes I’d prefer a less filtered track more akin to the 2005 DVD, lossy or lossless withstanding.

That being said, I am still happy the option is there at all especially with Universal’s poor track record with OG tracks. You’d think with the hassle people made with this film when it was remixed the first time they’d take more note of these things. Sad really. I remember those few short years of having to get by with that 25th anniversary DVD and I won’t lie it was a struggle at times. I’m definitely glad we’re not still stuck with that situation now with this film. The track isn’t perfect but it’s enough to replicate the movie I grew up with.

I will also say this. Had we gotten a NEW new release of this instead of basically a repackaging I would totally be fine if the same mono was included in lieu of finally remastering the deleted scenes. The frame rate of them on the 4K makes them practically unwatchable now. It’s time to retire those old LD era versions of those scenes. Too bad.

[GrouchoFan]

I couldn't make it to the 3-D showings a few years ago .

This time, I would not be denied!! Caught a 3-D show Monday afternoon, LOVED the conversion! I need this on disc!!

I also wanted to see it in IMAX (or LIEMax, in my case). And, I wanted to see it again in 3-D! I had not originally intended to do this, but what with scheduling conflicts and the fact that local theaters are dropping the 3-D and IMAX show times next week, I went to a 1:00 pm LIEMax show yesterday, and then a 7:00 pm 3-D show at a different theater. I know, I know, I'm seriously getting into BluBonnet territory here , but what the hell, JAWS is worth it! Besides, I didn't buy my JAWS 50th Anniversary t-shirt and JAWS baseball cap in order to NOT wear them to the theater!

Sadly, the theaters were mostly empty all three times. Guess everybody went over the weekend.

Loved the IMAX, loved the 3-D, but I think I'm JAWS-ed out for awhile.

[erixon20]

Originally Posted by GrouchoFan

I couldn't make it to the 3-D showings a few years ago .

This time, I would not be denied!! Caught a 3-D show Monday afternoon, LOVED the conversion! I need this on disc!!

I also wanted to see it in IMAX (or LIEMax, in my case). And, I wanted to see it again in 3-D! I had not originally intended to do this, but what with scheduling conflicts and the fact that local theaters are dropping the 3-D and IMAX show times next week, I went to a 1:00 pm LIEMax show yesterday, and then a 7:00 pm 3-D show at a different theater. I know, I know, I'm seriously getting into BluBonnet territory here , but what the hell, JAWS is worth it! Besides, I didn't buy my JAWS 50th Anniversary t-shirt and JAWS baseball cap in order to NOT wear them to the theater!

Sadly, the theaters were mostly empty all three times. Guess everybody went over the weekend.

Loved the IMAX, loved the 3-D, but I think I'm JAWS-ed out for awhile.

I saw the IMAX at 67th street in NY and it was great. Didn't get to see the 3D then or this week-but might be able to go next week.

[Matt89]

Yeah I went on Tuesday to see it in IMAX and honestly loved it. I've never seen the film on SUCH a big screen. It was sort of mesmerizing, ngl.

Also everyone jumped out of their seat at Ben Gardner's head. 50 years later and the movie's still got it.

[Talal86]

Are all the releases the same PQ/AQ wise?

[crissrudd4554]

Originally Posted by Talal86

Are all the releases the same PQ/AQ wise?

There’s only been one 4K release. The 50th is a repackaging of the 2020 disc.