Caligula: The Ultimate Cut 4K UHD (1979/2023) [Potemkine]

[stvn1974]

Caligula is worse than Blade Runner and Showgirls combined, how many versions of the POS does a person need?

[Ron242]

Originally Posted by dallywhitty

Tinto Brass' unfinished workprint, let's gooooooo.

I did suggest to Tiberius when they were prepping their release that they ask Alexander Tuschinski for Tinto's cut, lol, but obviously nothing came of it.

It is a real shame that Tuschinski's workprint never saw the light of day. I assume that this was not due to Tiberius' will, but rather to the fact that Tuschinski's authorization was withdrawn. My absolute dream would have been the 1979 Cannes version, which didn't run 210 minutes as is often claimed, but is said to have contained a few minutes of additional material by Bob Guccione. However, I doubt that Potemkine managed to find it.

[Ron242]

Originally Posted by stvn1974

Caligula is worse than Blade Runner and Showgirls combined, how many versions of the POS does a person need?

To be completely honest: EVERY conceivable version you can get!

[dallywhitty]

Originally Posted by Ron242

It is a real shame that Tuschinski's workprint never saw the light of day. I assume that this was not due to Tiberius' will, but rather to the fact that Tuschinski's authorization was withdrawn. My absolute dream would have been the 1979 Cannes version, which didn't run 210 minutes as is often claimed, but is said to have contained a few minutes of additional material by Bob Guccione. However, I doubt that Potemkine managed to find it.

Alex is the only one preventing the workprint from seeing the light of day. As for the version that was shown privately at Cannes, Ranjit Sandhu's website claims it was the same 156 min version we're all familiar with, no additional footage. I also asked Tom about it once and he denied its existence.

[Ron242]

Originally Posted by dallywhitty

Alex is the only one preventing the workprint from seeing the light of day. As for the version that was shown privately at Cannes, Ranjit Sandhu's website claims it was the same 156 min version we're all familiar with, no additional footage. I also asked Tom about it once and he denied its existence.

It was Alex himself who claimed in his German audio commentary that there was a Cannes version that was a few minutes longer. Does it actually still exist? I have no idea.

[Deciazulado]

Originally Posted by dallywhitty

Alex is the only one preventing the workprint from seeing the light of day. As for the version that was shown privately at Cannes, Ranjit Sandhu's website claims it was the same 156 min version we're all familiar with, no additional footage. I also asked Tom about it once and he denied its existence.

I told you there was another. I've confirmed it by another independent witness. 45 years apart.

[Deciazulado]

Caligula 4K Blu-ray

[Ron242]

Potemkine has just made the following statement on their FB page about the three versions of their upcoming set:

"There will be the 1979 version with porn inserts.
A very rare version, "Io Caligula", which is the Italian remount by Franco Rosselini and the "ultimate cut" version from 2023."

[Ron242]

We offer three versions of the film, including the "ultimate cut" presented at Cannes in 2023.

Three different editions:
- A wooden box including a metal case and a book (Blu-Ray + UHD + book)
- Metal box only (Blu-Ray + UHD)
- Single case (DVD ultimate cut only)

Contents of the wood and metal edition:

Wooden box: original visual by Bill Sienkiewicz

Book (unpublished content / exclusive to wooden box):
- "Caligula, la vérité, rien que la vérité" by Julien Sévéon
- Caligula, between sacrilege and epiphany" by Olivier Rossignot
- Interview with Thomas Negovan- Interview with Mirella d'Angello

Blu-ray/UHD Combo in metal case :
- Caligula The Ultimate Cut
(2023 - 178 min Blu-Ray and UHD 4K Dolby Vision)
- Caligula, uncensored extended version (1979 - 156 min Blu-Ray)
- Io, Caligula, Italian cut by Franco Rossellini (UNRELEASED - 1984 - 125 min)
- Istinto Brass, previously unreleased documentary on the career of Tinto Brass, directed by Massimiliano Zanin (2013 - 94 min)
- Unpublished interviews with Tinto Brass, Teresa Ann Savoy and John Steiner - Comparison of sequences by Olivier Rossignot
- A Documentary on the making of "Gore Vidal's Caligula" directed by Giancarlo Lui (1981 - 1h)
- Archival interviews with Tinto Brass, John Steiner and Lori Wagner

[dallywhitty]

I hope the OG version and Io, Caligola don't share a disc.

[Ron242]

Originally Posted by dallywhitty

I hope the OG version and Io, Caligola don't share a disc.

I hope so too. The documentary "Istintobrass" alone lasts 94 minutes.

[nekromantik]

wonder if they will use the French version of OG or the same one as Umbrella/Germany.

[dallywhitty]

Noticed the Amazon listing has been updated to "UHD + Blu-ray + 2 Blu-ray Bonus," so seems this'll be a 4-disc set.

EDIT: Io, Caligola is SD only.

[Deciazulado]

The CE amazon pre-order:

Caligula 4K Blu-ray CE













Now, if we only had a time machine to fetch the C cut my friends saw...