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Old 10-02-2009, 11:18 AM   #1
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nevermind. I found out the answer. "ONLY" the collector's edition has TrueHD audio. The regular only has LPCM 5.1 audio (16 bit/48khz)
you realize, that TrueHD does not sound better than LPCM? Both are lossless audio formats.
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Old 10-02-2009, 11:38 AM   #2
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you realize, that TrueHD does not sound better than LPCM? Both are lossless audio formats.
But on Casino Royale, it does.
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Old 10-02-2009, 12:34 PM   #3
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But on Casino Royale, it does.
Agreed. Even the review on this site stops short of saying it was remastered for the Collector's Edition, but there's no denying the TrueHD sound is better than the LPCM - in this case (Certainly not trying to start another debate over the merits of PCM v TrueHD v DTS-HD MA. I know they're all lossless and theoretically the same).
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Old 10-02-2009, 01:11 PM   #4
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ok. now I am really confused. I thought I had this down to the "T".

So if LPCM sounds better than TrueHD, how should I connect my blu ray player to my receiver? Should I set my blu ray's player settings to LPCM, PCM, or Bitstream output to the receiver? (sorry I had asked this question before, but now im very confused)


When I asked this before, I was told I should output via LPCM output from my player to my receiver all with HDMI... Then I was told to output only video from HDMI and use analogue for audio and HDaudio... So what is it?

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Okay let's get this straight BOTH PCM and Dolby TrueHD are in 16bit/48Khz, BOTH are lossless. Any difference heard between the 2 releases is probably the collectors edition using a new master OR the placebo effect which still does effect this sites reviewers.

So G9logitech all lossless/uncompressed audio formats are of equal quality. Now find out if your receiver decodes Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD-MA if it does then choosing bitstream or output in PCM will not make a difference in the audio quality as long as you have them connected by HDMI. Now if your receiver only decodes Dolby Digital and DTS then you should set it to output in PCM if your receiver accepts the PCM signal through HDMI.
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Okay let's get this straight BOTH PCM and Dolby TrueHD are in 16bit/48Khz, BOTH are lossless. Any difference heard between the 2 releases is probably the collectors edition using a new master OR the placebo effect which still does effect this sites reviewers.

So G9logitech all lossless/uncompressed audio formats are of equal quality. Now find out if your receiver decodes Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD-MA if it does then choosing bitstream or output in PCM will not make a difference in the audio quality as long as you have them connected by HDMI. Now if your receiver only decodes Dolby Digital and DTS then you should set it to output in PCM if your receiver accepts the PCM signal through HDMI.
Isn't Casino Royale a 20-Bit track?
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Old 10-02-2009, 04:37 PM   #7
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I'm pretty sure people found out it was a 16bit track in a 24bit container.
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ok. now I am really confused. I thought I had this down to the "T".

So if LPCM sounds better than TrueHD, how should I connect my blu ray player to my receiver? Should I set my blu ray's player settings to LPCM, PCM, or Bitstream output to the receiver? (sorry I had asked this question before, but now im very confused)


When I asked this before, I was told I should output via LPCM output from my player to my receiver all with HDMI... Then I was told to output only video from HDMI and use analogue for audio and HDaudio... So what is it?

Thanks
Well it all depends. For example on what receiver you've got, whether it can decode Lossless codecs internally or whether it will accept them already decoded. If you choose to bitstream over HDMI and your receiver can decode internally(TrueHD, dtsHD) then all you really need is an HDMI cable.
If your receiver lacks internal decoders(for Lossless) and your BD Player has them, then you can use the analogue outputs on your BD Player (assuming that it has them). In this instance point your BD players settings to LPCM.
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Old 10-02-2009, 02:24 PM   #9
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Well it all depends. For example on what receiver you've got, whether it can decode Lossless codecs internally or whether it will accept them already decoded. If you choose to bitstream over HDMI and your receiver can decode internally(TrueHD, dtsHD) then all you really need is an HDMI cable.
If your receiver lacks internal decoders(for Lossless) and your BD Player has them, then you can use the analogue outputs on your BD Player (assuming that it has them). In this instance point your BD players settings to LPCM.
Well, if your receiver would have the LPCM multi-channel through HDMI feature, then you still can do without analogues on the BD-player if the BD-player you use can decode True-HD and DTS-HD MA and thus still only need an HDMI cable. To make the answer easier lol

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