I have sumed up some things here. To do lists for both formats.

[hmurchison]

Originally Posted by kevinca1

Lets see

1 You stuck in a time warp here?

2 UMMM toshiba player is same price but also is more then PS3 and the Samsung.

3 Hmm lets see toshiba had 2 months release lead. they launched with 3 titles blu-ray had 7. tiltes announced and out are equall and blu-ray has yet to have all studios supporting to release as in Fox.

1. I am?
2. How is $499 more than $499?
3. That's a piss poor excuse. 2 months is nothing. HD DVD had to prove itself and it did with great quality. The second part speaks volumes about Blu-Ray. They told us how great it was and then half the studios ignored supporting the launch.

I'm not counting out Blu-Ray but to sit and think that HD DVD's inertia is just going to dissipate because of the Playstation is foolish.

Originally Posted by Brian@BBY

Kevin, don't bother with Hmurchison, his sig is B.S. he's got the HDDVD love goggles on and can't see past the fifth element and house of flying daggers.

I don't love HD DVD but I've always championed that it is the more sensible format. They delivered on time with decent media. Blu-Ray has not..period.

Originally Posted by PurpleAardvark

Well Then let us correct his mistakes:

This should be interesting.

Let me beat down your puerile rebuttal with ease.

1. Having a studio advantage is only such when said studios actually deliver movies in quantity. Add up Universal and Warner movies and then compare then to how many movies Disney and Fox have delivered. Note the difference?

2. You thought wrong. I've been in IT sales for a while and Sony doesn't manufacture even half their optical drives. LG and Liteon are very good oem suppliers of optical drives. This helps both platforms

3. http://reviews.cnet.com/Panasonic_DM...2.html?tag=nav
clearly shows the $1300 Panasonic will require a firmware update for TrueHD and DTS-HD MA support. WTF how late is this player??

4. The context here is the effect on movie purchases PA. So while everyone gets a BD player not everyone purchasing a PS3 will have a HDTV or care about movies. I get your point but your context is a bit off. We're only concerned about the game consoles in the context of how many movies the owner buys. With a HD DVD add on it's primary function is to play movies. There's no Trojan Horse here.

5. Because the lens assembly uses simply optics and numerical aperture. You get DVD and Blue Laser support with a simple OPU and lens. In Blu-Ray you have to "graft" on Red Laser DVD support. Meaning it's more expensive. I would say your anecdotal evidence pales in comparison to actually understanding why HD DVD is cheaper. Go study some more

6. LOL..the same PSP that studios have abandoned. http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/6025/53/

It seems that Sony can't catch a break in 2006. If it's not overheating batteries eroding profits due to recalls, overheating PlayStation 3 consoles causing machines to malfunction at games shows, poor PSP sales and Blu-ray manufacturing problems delaying PS3 production

7. My gf is a counselor with a Master's Degree with plenty of coursework in Psychology. I think I'll defer to her knowledge on the subject over yours. Thanks anyway. I'm not saying games screw your kid up but not every family wants game consoles

8. Sony/Columbia and Fox won't be over for a while. But if Lionsgate and Disney come over then that virtually guarantees HD DVD survival.

9. Please don't embarass yourself. You're not a "numbers" guy. Just stick with being the impassioned Pom Pom toting fan and let those who are a bit more articulate discuss the number. Just a friendly suggestion.

I'm not here to piss in your cheerios about Blu-Ray. HD DVD has its issues as well but they've clearly executed better than the BDA has. Reading these forums you get a sense of hope and great support for the format but if you are correct your statements should hold up under scrutiny. Some of you want a bully pulpit ..a mutal admiration society where everyone agrees with you statements. If that's case then just let people know that frank and open discussion is not wanted on these boards.