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Old 10-09-2009, 03:58 PM   #1
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Well, the reviews I read were that they've actually lowered the quality on the DN-1000 from your 920. The power rating is exaggerated. Though it gets the highest marks for sound quality, a bit of a surprise to me.
Its funny, I started out as a big Sony fanboy when I was a kid, now I'm a bit skeptical bout them :P
Well the power ratings on most of the $500 and below receivers are all exaggerated now-a-days. Look at the Yamaha 665 it runs 42 wpc and listed at 90 wpc, the Pioneer 1019/919 is bench testing at 28 wpc and listed at 120 wpc.

Don't be fooled, they all have suffered power loss and still lay claim to higher output.


https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=104836 Look at post #19 & #24, that is the test results.
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Old 10-09-2009, 04:03 PM   #2
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Well the power ratings on most of the $500 and below receivers are all exaggerated now-a-days. Look at the Yamaha 665 it runs 42 wpc and listed at 90 wpc, the Pioneer 1019/919 is bench testing at 28 wpc and listed at 120 wpc.

Don't be fooled, they all have suffered power loss and still lay claim to higher output.


https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=104836 Look at post #19 & #24, that is the test results.
Yeah, I had come across this as well. (donno if me having Klipsch helps it though )
Thats why I was interested in the HK, coz they tend not to exaggerate their ratings, and I really like their Logic 7 processing, at least in my car

My head's already spinning from the confusion
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Old 10-09-2009, 04:19 PM   #3
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Just sold my Sony 920 for the DN-1000 and I am glad I did. Took 15 minutes to set up, GUI is much better than on the 920. 7.1 never sounded so good.
I have everything running through it (Sony XBR 50, PS3, 360, Laser disc Player and Sony BD S360).
Price was $340.00
Very happy with my purchase.
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Old 10-09-2009, 04:20 PM   #4
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(donno if me having Klipsch helps it though )
Thats why I was interested in the HK, coz they tend not to exaggerate their ratings, and I really like their Logic 7 processing, at least in my car
I vote for the HK. Like Marantz & Denon, HK is very truthful in their power ratings. Here's some feedback on the HK x600 receivers: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1178816
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Old 10-09-2009, 04:31 PM   #5
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I vote for the HK. Like Marantz & Denon, HK is very truthful in their power ratings. Here's some feedback on the HK x600 receivers: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1178816
Yeah, the HK does sound tempting.

I know it doesn't upconvert(most upconversions in this range a bad anyway), but does it conver from Analog to Digital, or do I have to run a component cable from the receiver to the TV too?
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Old 10-09-2009, 04:54 PM   #6
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I vote for the HK. Like Marantz & Denon, HK is very truthful in their power ratings. Here's some feedback on the HK x600 receivers: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1178816
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Yeah, the HK does sound tempting.

I know it doesn't upconvert(most upconversions in this range a bad anyway), but does it conver from Analog to Digital, or do I have to run a component cable from the receiver to the TV too?
Well, I went through that thread, and apparently HK have been misquoting the power rating on the 1600. Its actually 35W per channel. Don't think that'll be enough..
So it seems a straight shootout between the Onkyo and the Sony.
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Old 10-09-2009, 05:26 PM   #7
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35 watts would be plenty for those speakers. Any of your receiver options would be drive them fairly easy.

from Audioholics.com Quintet SL review
http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/s...sch-quintet-sl

The front three speakers of the Klipsch Quintet SL package are of an MTM "D'Appolito" design with a horn-loaded 3/4 inch aluminum dome tweeter flanked by two 3.5 inch mid-bas drivers. Outside of the woofers are two ports. With the grills on, the three speakers should outline three sides of a flat panel nicely. The rear speakers use the same horn-loaded tweeter and one of the 3.5 inch woofers (these are the same speakers that are included in the Quintet III speaker package). While we have found that orienting the center channel vertically will give you better overall sound quality, we're willing to bet that your better half won't let you. But we suggest you try just in case.

The build quality of these speakers is up to the high standards we've come to expect from Klipsch. The stands once again double for wall mounts which is a nice touch as it negates a potentially expensive add-on that other companies are more than happy to stick you with. The 93db@1watt/1meter for the fronts and 91db@1watt/1meter for the rears sensitivity is crazy high for any speaker much less speakers of this size. There isn't a receiver or amp on the planet that should have a hard time driving these speakers to their limits and beyond.

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Old 10-09-2009, 06:02 PM   #8
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35 watts would be plenty for those speakers. Any of your receiver options would be drive them fairly easy.

from Audioholics.com Quintet SL review
http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/s...sch-quintet-sl

The front three speakers of the Klipsch Quintet SL package are of an MTM "D'Appolito" design with a horn-loaded 3/4 inch aluminum dome tweeter flanked by two 3.5 inch mid-bas drivers. Outside of the woofers are two ports. With the grills on, the three speakers should outline three sides of a flat panel nicely. The rear speakers use the same horn-loaded tweeter and one of the 3.5 inch woofers (these are the same speakers that are included in the Quintet III speaker package). While we have found that orienting the center channel vertically will give you better overall sound quality, we're willing to bet that your better half won't let you. But we suggest you try just in case.

The build quality of these speakers is up to the high standards we've come to expect from Klipsch. The stands once again double for wall mounts which is a nice touch as it negates a potentially expensive add-on that other companies are more than happy to stick you with. The 93db@1watt/1meter for the fronts and 91db@1watt/1meter for the rears sensitivity is crazy high for any speaker much less speakers of this size. There isn't a receiver or amp on the planet that should have a hard time driving these speakers to their limits and beyond.
Aah, guess I am a complete noob I did read that review earlier, but forgot bout the sensitivity. Now I'm eve more confused.

Guess should've opened a poll, coz its hard to keep track of the votes.

So far:-

Sony - +3
HK - +1
Onkyo - +1
Pioneer - +1
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Old 10-09-2009, 07:06 PM   #9
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This is a quote from a review of your speakers:
Vince Hanada, The Perfect Vision (January, 2008)
“The horn is precisely shaped to allow sound to emanate as efficiently as possible, meaning you won’t need a boatload of power to get loud, clean sound—a modest receiver will do the trick.”
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If you stop the poll now Sony wins!
What about picking up an HK AVR 254 that has audio pre-outs. Then down the road you can get a 5 channel amp and and use the receiver as a pre/pro!
Wow, that does sound tempting. Just that its at least $60 more than what I'd pay for the 1600..
Any chance of it falling anytime soon? But yeah, it might be worth it with the pre-outs...
Hmm.. Options.....

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This is a quote from a review of your speakers:
Vince Hanada, The Perfect Vision (January, 2008)
“The horn is precisely shaped to allow sound to emanate as efficiently as possible, meaning you won’t need a boatload of power to get loud, clean sound—a modest receiver will do the trick.”
You'd gotten me convinced with your previous comment itself
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Old 10-09-2009, 07:26 PM   #11
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[QUOTE=ak_ka;2405274]Wow, that does sound tempting. Just that its at least $60 more than what I'd pay for the 1600..
Any chance of it falling anytime soon? But yeah, it might be worth it with the pre-outs...
Hmm.. Options.....


There is a refurbished one on Amazon right now for $320. or a used/like new one for $315. Decisions...
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Old 10-09-2009, 08:35 PM   #12
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Wow, that does sound tempting. Just that its at least $60 more than what I'd pay for the 1600..
Any chance of it falling anytime soon? But yeah, it might be worth it with the pre-outs...
Hmm.. Options.....
There is a refurbished one on Amazon right now for $320. or a used/like new one for $315. Decisions...
With the shipping, its more like $340. I'm wary of getting a refurbished one, considering they only fixed the firmware recently.
Guess I should try my local Best Buy again. Hoping I get a good deal like on the Speakers
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I'd go with that one, amazon is very trusted.. its good after-all
I have bought tons of used stuff off Amazon. It has all been flawless. I'd go fer it.
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