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Old 09-27-2007, 09:50 AM   #1101
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True that. 日本 actually means "under the sun" which can also be interpreted as "land of rising sun".


Well, when I fly from California to Tokyo, it does feel like time is slowing down. I get on the plane at 11AM, and 11 hours later, I get off the plane at 5PM....

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not exactly, 日本 means the base of sun, as 日 means the sun or day, and 本 means the base or Origin, so in the old old time when Japan just changed the name from Woguo (倭國) to Nippon (日本), literally meaning "Origin of the Sun".

In True Meaning of Shiji (史記正義), it says Wu Zetian (武则天) ordered a Japanese envoy to change the name to Nippon. God how powerful China used to be eh...
 
Old 09-27-2007, 09:51 AM   #1102
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11 hours left before either we get warner exclusivity or ban the OP
You won't be able to ban him. He's posting under a nom de bulls**t.
 
Old 09-27-2007, 09:52 AM   #1103
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not really... it's all depends on the content, and also there is a guideline what to use, not just how u wanna use it. the other interesting note, Nippon sounds very much like Chinese pronunciation of 日本, which means in the old old old time Japan was introduced to the Chinese as Nippon not Nihon. again like my last post, Nihon is more like a adj. and not very commonly used.
Yes, as I said, there are some guidelines (romaji form of official documents are always "nippon", even if they are also pronounced "nihon" when Japanese people are talking to each other).

I've heard "nihon" and "nippon" interchangably in many cases. Heck some times I don't even remember which one I used. Just go to ja.wikipedia.org and see how many words have both "nihon-" and "nippon-" listed as acceptable pronunciations.

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Old 09-27-2007, 09:53 AM   #1104
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-Tomorrow Warner will announce going Blu-ray exclusive.
-New Line will also go Blu-ray exclusive )
-One big catalogue title will be released exclusive on Blu-ray by Q2 2008. I believe Peter Jackson has something to do with that title .

so does that mean that The Frighteners are coming to blu ray ROCK ON mikey J fox in HD
 
Old 09-27-2007, 09:55 AM   #1105
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Yes, as I said, there are some guidelines (romaji form of official documents are always "nippon", even if they are also pronounced "nihon" when Japanese people are talking to each other).

I've heard "nihon" and "nippon" interchangably in many cases. Heck some times I don't even remember which one I used. Just go to ja.wikipedia.org and see how many words have both "nihon-" and "nippon-" listed as acceptable pronunciations.

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again there is a guideline, there are things u cannot change, u have to say Nihon Jin, not Nippon Jin, as I said Niho is more like a adj. and why r u arguing with a Nihon Jin about his own language?
 
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i'm celebrating by buying nando's two double chicken breast burger with spicy rice
man you got me hungry lol im going there tonight now
 
Old 09-27-2007, 09:57 AM   #1107
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Are you Japanese? You know that there's a Nihon-bashi in Tokyo, right?

(And of course that Nihon-bashi is prounounced "Nippon-bashi" in a famous song -- go figure.)

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of cosure i know that, the reason is becuz Nihon is older than Nippon, just like Kyoto to Tokyo, so when we say Nippon bashi it means the one in Osaka, and when we say Nihon bashi it means the one in Tokyo surrounding oldest and largest commercial districts of the city.
 
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of cosure i know that, the reason is becuz Nihon is older than Nippon, just like Kyoto to Tokyo, so when we say Nippon bashi it means the one in Osaka, and when we say Nihon bashi it means the one in Tokyo surrounding oldest and largest commercial districts of the city.
My doctor said my nose wouldnt bleed if I kepp my finger out of there
 
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My doctor said my nose wouldnt bleed if I kepp my finger out of there


kepp = kept
me bad at typeing that id unposeble
 
Old 09-27-2007, 10:03 AM   #1110
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again there is a guideline, there are things u cannot change, u have to say Nihon Jin, not Nippon Jin, as I said Niho is more like a adj. and why r u arguing with a Nihon Jin about his own language?
Because I'm nippon-jin too.

Seriously, both nihon-jin and nippon-jin are acceptable. Go look up ja.wikipedia.org or a Japanese dictionary of your choice. For your information, my Sanseido dictionary lists 日本人 only under "nippon-". But that's just the example they picked, doesn't mean they disapprove of "nihon-jin".

Some things have to be one way or the other (I've never heard Nippon-bashi in Osaka pronounced Nihon-bashi), some things can be either (Nihon-bashi in Tokyo has been pronounced Nippon-bashi on occasion, in particular the "Oedo Nippon-bashi" song). That's all I'm saying.

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Old 09-27-2007, 10:04 AM   #1111
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my fav places in Tokyo r Shinjuku-ku 东京新宿, Chuo-Ku 银座 and Akihabara 秋葉原電気街 Denki Gai.
 
Old 09-27-2007, 10:05 AM   #1112
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You won't be able to ban him. He's posting under a nom de bulls**t.
un nom de m***e??


well why we won't be able to ban him?

okay, what I understand is that "nihon" and nippon are interchangeable, but nihon is more common. I'll leave you two with it...
 
Old 09-27-2007, 10:06 AM   #1113
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Because I'm nippon-jin too.

Seriously, both nihon-jin and nippon-jin are acceptable. Go look up ja.wikipedia.org or a Japanese dictionary of your choice.

Some things have to be one way or the other (I've never heard Nippon-bashi in Osaka pronounced Nihon-bashi), some things can be either (Nihon-bashi in Tokyo has been pronounced Nippon-bashi on occasion, in particular the "Oedo Nippon-bashi" song). That's all I'm saying.

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well the reason is cuz some old ppl and also when they sing the song they try to have a bit respect for the history or whatever the reason, or sounds cool maybe??
 
Old 09-27-2007, 10:07 AM   #1114
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Don't be so proud. Here's how they're discussing it over there.

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Just had a quick read through those linked forums. Are they all teenagers or something? The comments are cringworthy and take me back to the times of Spectrum V Commodore, AtariST versus Amiga, Sega V Nintendo and XBOX versus Playstation.

Sorry, but the people on that site, really are immature to be getting all hot under the collar about different formats. I mean would this still be the case if either camp wasn't linked to xbox and playstation??
 
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Because I'm nippon-jin too.

Seriously, both nihon-jin and nippon-jin are acceptable. Go look up ja.wikipedia.org or a Japanese dictionary of your choice. For your information, my Sanseido dictionary lists 日本人 only under "nippon-". But that's just the example they picked.

Some things have to be one way or the other (I've never heard Nippon-bashi in Osaka pronounced Nihon-bashi), some things can be either (Nihon-bashi in Tokyo has been pronounced Nippon-bashi on occasion, in particular the "Oedo Nippon-bashi" song). That's all I'm saying.

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well to say i am Nihon Jin is not true, I am only part, but still....
 
Old 09-27-2007, 10:08 AM   #1116
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has a bridge that had to be made wider to accomodate ever increasing traffic...

A group of Japanese engineers designed a means of 'bolting on' an extra couple of lanes to the exisitng construction. It's name? The "Nippon Clip-on".
 
Old 09-27-2007, 10:10 AM   #1117
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has a bridge that had to be made wider to accomodate ever increasing traffic...

A group of Japanese engineers designed a means of 'bolting on' an extra couple of lanes to the exisitng construction. It's name? The "Nippon Clip-on".

funny one, do u know which city that is?? nowadays more ppl and companies use Nippon then Nihon ever since the 8th C. when the name was changed.

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Old 09-27-2007, 10:13 AM   #1118
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my fav places in Tokyo r Shinjuku-ku 东京新宿, Chuo-Ku 银座 and Akihabara 秋葉原電気街 Denki Gai.
You're mixing Chinese and Japanese now. 東京新宿、銀座、秋葉原電気街 would be how I'd write them.

To those of the bemused audience, you may want to increase your font size and look at the first letter of the first two words with a magnifier.

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Holy Blu Cow! The replies to this thread has been growing like bacteria while I got my beauty-sleep

This thread will definitely get a lot more hits throughout the next hours up until the anouncement is rumored to happen.

Is this how they felt December 18th 1918 at around 8 in the morning? Could it be true? Could it be blu?
 
Old 09-27-2007, 10:19 AM   #1120
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well the reason is cuz some old ppl and also when they sing the song they try to have a bit respect for the history or whatever the reason, or sounds cool maybe??
Exactly! That's what I'm saying! Often it's for what sounds right in the particular context.

"Oedo Nihon-bashi" doesn't sound right, because you need to actually sing it like "Oedo Niihon-bashi" (notice the extra "i") so someone just decided to change it to "Nippon-bashi" even though in 99% of other places, the one in Tokyo is pronounced "Nihon-bashi".

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