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View Poll Results: Did the "Newborn" ruin the movie for you?
Yes - The "Newborn" was the problem. 16 31.37%
No - Nothing could of saved the movie. 35 68.63%
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Old 10-19-2009, 09:08 PM   #1
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Um, do we need another Alien movie? My thoughts exactly.
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Old 10-19-2009, 09:13 PM   #2
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Alien Resurrection was my favorite Alien film... maybe it's because some of the characters though, Ron Perlman saved that movie for me.
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Old 10-20-2009, 01:15 PM   #3
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Alien Resurrection was my favorite Alien film... maybe it's because some of the characters though, Ron Perlman saved that movie for me.
not my favorite but i certainly dont loathe it like some others around here... i enjoyed it
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Old 10-20-2009, 01:24 PM   #4
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Alien Resurrection had a great premiss that just could not live up to expectations. It had some great moments in it, clones, alien killing alien to escape; and some bad ones, mostly involving the base commander and jokes.

What really killed this movie was the expectation that we would finally see the home world after 3.

As for the newborn, it just rounded of a lacklustre film.
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Old 10-19-2009, 09:15 PM   #5
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Um, do we need another Alien movie? My thoughts exactly.
I love the idea and with a great story and script this could be fantastic. I'll be in line opening night for the pre-quel. I think Scott if he in fact is involved, because he sounds busy as hell, will do a great job.
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Old 10-19-2009, 09:16 PM   #6
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Um, do we need another Alien movie? My thoughts exactly.
Um, do we need another smart ass comment? My thoughts exactly.
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Old 10-19-2009, 11:03 PM   #7
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Man...I hate this movie from beginning to end!

I do remember reading somewhere that the studio kept on badgering the director to do this movie and he kept on refusing and asking them why they wanted him to do it and not somebody else because he would not be the right one(apparently the studio wanted another unknown director like Scott, Cameron and Fincher). Well he finally either just gave up refusing their pleas or they made him an offer that he could not refuse.

Ron Perlman is the only thing that I kinda liked about this film.

Here are a few 'fun facts' from IMDB:

- Winona Ryder nearly drowned during the filming of the underwater scene.

- Actor Ron Perlman nearly drowned while filming the underwater sequence. At one point, when trying to surface, he hit his head on a sprinkler in the ceiling, knocking him out cold.

- Jean-Pierre Jeunet's first solo credit as a director.

- The genitals of the Newborn had to be digitally removed.

- The character of Dr. Wren was originally written for Bill Murray, with the intent of reuniting him with Sigourney Weaver, his co-star from Ghost Busters (1984).

- Danny Boyle and David Cronenberg were an early choice to direct but they passed.

- To achieve the shot where the camera travels inside Leland Orser to see the alien fetus about to be birthed, Orser had a camera shoved down his throat and then pulled out. This was then reversed.

- Sigourney Weaver made the behind-the-back half-court basketball shot successfully after two weeks of basketball practice, tutored by a basketball coach. Her conversion rate during that two weeks was about one shot in from every six. When the day came to shoot the scene, director Jean-Pierre Jeunet wanted to have the ball dropped in from above, rather than wait for Weaver to sink the shot herself, which "would probably take about 200 takes". Weaver insisted that the she could get the shot in herself, which she was finally allowed to do. She sunk the shot on the very first take, even though she was six feet further past the three-point line. Ron Perlman was completely stunned (and thoroughly impressed), and turned directly at the camera and broke character, saying, "Oh my God!" The editors looked at the shot and decided that there was "enough room to get the scissors in". Weaver was excited about making the shot, but Jeunet was concerned that audiences would believe the shot to be faked due to the ball leaving the frame. Upon Weaver's insistence, he kept the shot as it was. Weaver described the miracle shot as "one of the best moments in her life", after her wedding day and the birth of her daughter, of course.

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Old 10-19-2009, 11:34 PM   #8
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Man...I hate this movie from beginning to end!

I do remember reading somewhere that the studio kept on badgering the director to do this movie and he kept on refusing and asking them why they wanted him to do it and not somebody else because he would not be the right one(apparently the studio wanted another unknown director like Scott, Cameron and Fincher). Well he finally either just gave up refusing their pleas or they made him an offer that he could not refuse.

Ron Perlman is the only thing that I kinda liked about this film.

Here are a few 'fun facts' from IMDB:

- Winona Ryder nearly drowned during the filming of the underwater scene.

- Actor Ron Perlman nearly drowned while filming the underwater sequence. At one point, when trying to surface, he hit his head on a sprinkler in the ceiling, knocking him out cold.

- Jean-Pierre Jeunet's first solo credit as a director.

- The genitals of the Newborn had to be digitally removed.

- The character of Dr. Wren was originally written for Bill Murray, with the intent of reuniting him with Sigourney Weaver, his co-star from Ghost Busters (1984).

- Danny Boyle and David Cronenberg were an early choice to direct but they passed.

- To achieve the shot where the camera travels inside Leland Orser to see the alien fetus about to be birthed, Orser had a camera shoved down his throat and then pulled out. This was then reversed.

- Sigourney Weaver made the behind-the-back half-court basketball shot successfully after two weeks of basketball practice, tutored by a basketball coach. Her conversion rate during that two weeks was about one shot in from every six. When the day came to shoot the scene, director Jean-Pierre Jeunet wanted to have the ball dropped in from above, rather than wait for Weaver to sink the shot herself, which "would probably take about 200 takes". Weaver insisted that the she could get the shot in herself, which she was finally allowed to do. She sunk the shot on the very first take, even though she was six feet further past the three-point line. Ron Perlman was completely stunned (and thoroughly impressed), and turned directly at the camera and broke character, saying, "Oh my God!" The editors looked at the shot and decided that there was "enough room to get the scissors in". Weaver was excited about making the shot, but Jeunet was concerned that audiences would believe the shot to be faked due to the ball leaving the frame. Upon Weaver's insistence, he kept the shot as it was. Weaver described the miracle shot as "one of the best moments in her life", after her wedding day and the birth of her daughter, of course.

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Too funny, next to the newborn, Perlman was what I hated most about the movie. He annoyed the crap out of me.
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Old 10-19-2009, 11:36 PM   #9
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I like the movie well enough, but the 3rd and 4th aren't in the same league as the first two. I thought the newborn in the end took more away from the movie than they added to it though.
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Old 10-19-2009, 11:42 PM   #10
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Perlman was what I hated most about the movie. He annoyed the crap out of me.
I have to agree and that thing in the wheelchair annoyed me as well.
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Old 10-19-2009, 11:44 PM   #11
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I have to agree and that thing in the wheelchair annoyed me as well.
The thing in the wheelchair got Christie killed. Should have been the other way around.
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Old 10-19-2009, 11:45 PM   #12
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The thing in the wheelchair got Christie killed. Should have been the other way around.

Yes it should have.
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Old 10-19-2009, 11:47 PM   #13
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Too funny, next to the newborn, Perlman was what I hated most about the movie. He annoyed the crap out of me.
It's weird, I found him to be less annoying then Bill Paxton was in Aliens actualy
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Old 10-19-2009, 11:55 PM   #14
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Alien Resurrection is a guilty pleasure of mine I like the movie. The 3rd one is the worst IMO
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Old 10-20-2009, 01:14 AM   #15
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Alien Resurrection is a guilty pleasure of mine I like the movie. The 3rd one is the worst IMO
I agree I didn't enjoy alien 3 as much as I would have liked, I'm not saying it wasn't a good movie but I liked the 4th one more.

My order
Aliens
Alien Resurrection
Alien
Aliens 3
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Old 10-20-2009, 06:10 PM   #16
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Alien Resurrection is a guilty pleasure of mine I like the movie. The 3rd one is the worst IMO
I agree.

I hated what they did with the survivors in 3.

Logan
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Old 10-20-2009, 03:56 AM   #17
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It's weird, I found him (Pearlman) to be less annoying then Bill Paxton was in Aliens actualy
Same here. I got sick of Paxton's whining. I couldn't wait for him to be offed. At least Pearlman's character had some balls.

I liked AR better than the 3rd one as well. The characters were quirky and different and it didn't take itself too seriously. I'm not sure I could sit through number 3 again, especially since most of the creature effects were CG.

As far as the poll question goes, I'd pick the third option (were it available):

None of the above.

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Old 10-20-2009, 05:48 AM   #18
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I thought it was Dan Hedeya that brought the movie down. The breath analyzer, when he slapped the side of his head like "duh", and pulling out a piece of his brain....all these were way too comedic for an Alien movie.
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Old 10-20-2009, 04:59 PM   #19
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The idea of Jean-Pierre Jeunet directing the movie was the major mistake.
His movies like Amelie are great- quirky, unpredictable, just plain fun --> how the hell can anyone translate that style into a horror sci fi. It's like asking Brian Johnson to sing Aretha Franklin, it ain't gonna work.

Another thing that rubs me the wrong way is the military aspect of the movie. Yes, they are trying to replicate Aliens in a way but the guns in the 4th installment were just horrible.
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Old 10-20-2009, 05:12 PM   #20
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This movie was the worst of the series for me. No suspense or horror, bad acting, and I definitely didn't like the newborn idea. Even the nest looked awful. I loved the way the nest looked in ALIENS, looked more like a secreted resin, the way it stuck to the actors encased in it. I can understand if for some reason they couldn't get it to look exactly like that, but at least try. I know this is a small factor in the grand scheme of the movie, but it just really bothered me .
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