Oh noes teh sky is falling!

[Afrobean]

Originally Posted by blacklion

Somehow, I don't think the zillions of kids growing up on mp3, iPod, youtube etc will ever step up to HD audio or video especially on a physical disc. A whole generation is getting used to 'gud enuf' music and video through crappy headphones and tiny screens. It wasn't just the lack of industry support and marketing; the emergence of mp3 roughly at about the same time was a major part of the premature death of SA-CD and DVD-A and the industry responded too little, too late. I can easily see blu-ray going the way of SA-CD and DVD-A if the studios don't come to their senses.The time is now if blu-ray is to go mainstream, before the next big thing rolls in.

Blu-ray already is mainstream, albeit making up a smaller slice of the mainstream than its similar competitor.

Blu-ray will NEVER go the way of SACD or DVDA. Worst it MIGHT do is go the way of laserdisc, except it'll make up a market like 20 times laserdisc's slice of the market.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Afrobean

If they're already stealing movies and don't find it against their morals, NO purchased media of this kind will ever appeal to them.

exactly, you can't compete with "free" if people don't see anything wrong with it. The only way (and most likely impossible) is to make it impossible for them to get it for free. Why would someone that does not care about theatre taped shaky cam (or what ever the DL) because it is free, go with something they need to pay for?

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by ZoetMB

It is not illegal to make your own backup in the U.S. as long as the backup is stored and not used unless the primary copy is destroyed. The copyright law permits any consumer to make a backup copy for their personal use (as a backup).

you are kind of right but completely wrong.

The copy is not illegal, but according to DCMA it is illegal to brake any encryption (be it CSS on DVDs, or BD+ or AACS and every BD/DVD you buy has them) and it is illegal (CSS/AACS/BD+ agreements, to make a player that makes a back up and plays such back ups). Since it is illegal to back it up before decryption or back it up after decryption any back up is illegal.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by blacklion

My understanding is that component cable can indeed carry 1080p but the BD association's standards for CE manufacturers specifies that native 1080p output is restricted to HDMI only and that upscaling to 1080p is also via HDMI only.

yes and no, component can pass 1080p, but it is not the BDA, it is part of AACS, so it is not just BD, it will/does apply to more or less everything. The idea being that if the 1080p is not encrypted then it can easily be saved and encoded so you have an almost perfect copy.

[blueblood]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_shrimp_dvds


If this technology works out, could it also be applied to BD tech?? Will it hurt BD if people start to think dvd is "good enough" once more???

[Blu Titan]

Originally Posted by blueblood

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_shrimp_dvds


If this technology works out, could it also be applied to BD tech?? Will it hurt BD if people start to think dvd is "good enough" once more???

This is just speculation about something that currently has zero practical use. I would not worry about this.

[Lord_Stewie]

BT response is the best. I agree that its not something to worry about as well.

[blueblood]

Worried??? Why would I worry??? Its not a plague or anything... I just wanted to know if its realistic. And btw, Im all for BD, but if it makes my current dvd collection look better, im all for it.


I hope it does happen

[Blu Titan]

Originally Posted by blueblood

Worried??? Why would I worry??? Its not a plague or anything... I just wanted to know if its realistic. And btw, Im all for BD, but if it makes my current dvd collection look better, im all for it.


I hope it does happen

OK I will put it in other words. I would also love to see warp technology become a popular way to travel. I would save a lot of time in getting to work everyday.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by blueblood

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_shrimp_dvds


If this technology works out, could it also be applied to BD tech?? Will it hurt BD if people start to think dvd is "good enough" once more???

the issue is
1) there is really nothing in that article (i.e. how would it apply to disks)
2) if a disk based system used this it would not be a BD or DVD, so calling it a DVD is just dumb. DVD is DVD specs for movies (MPEG2, DD...) on a disk with a data layer at .6mm that uses a red laser, HD DVD had different movie specs, a data layer at .6mm and a blue laser, BD had the data layer at .1mm.

was HD DVD DVD because they where both at .6mm? was HD DVD BD because they both used the same blue lasers?

[krazeyeyez]

i am still waiting for those eyedrops made from some random new sea creature that was supposed to allow me to see at night like it was the middle of the day, this takes a back seat to that imo

[crackinhedz]

Originally Posted by krazeyeyez

i am still waiting for those eyedrops made from some random new sea creature that was supposed to allow me to see at night like it was the middle of the day, this takes a back seat to that imo

No, thanks, I'll stick with my HD Vision's w/ night vision WrapArounds.

[blueblood]

LOL, its funny how everyone here is filled with fear when a new technology emerges so you all have to put it down and make fun of it because of the almighty BD pride, LOL

Remember, bd technology emerged from sh it like this so maybe it will be a good thing for us all............

[DealsR4theDevil]

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

No, thanks, I'll stick with my HD Vision's w/ night vision WrapArounds.

oooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmgggggggggggggg

wooooooooooooooow

just woooooooooooooooooow

lol ... lol .... lol .... ugh :P

[krazeyeyez]

Originally Posted by blueblood

LOL, its funny how everyone here is filled with fear when a new technology emerges so you all have to put it down and make fun of it because of the almighty BD pride, LOL

Remember, bd technology emerged from sh it like this so maybe it will be a good thing for us all............

This i agree with LOL, and it swings both ways. Many people on here get defensive about new tech that could replace or compete with BLU, and i still here people say things like "i thought something better then blu-ray was coming soon", the ladder just recently being when i tried to explain the shifting aspect ratio of the IMAX version of ROTF and the dude thought i was saying an IMAX version and not an IMAX blu-ray, to which i stopped explaining when i realized he was shocked to here me mention black bars on a HDTV lol, obviously a zoomer or such.

But the fact remains BLU-RAY is not just good enough, it is better then good enough for the majority of screen sizes out their based on the human eye. It would be a long time before i could see any real demand or market size big enough to make anything beyond blu-ray worth it for the consumer and provider, like when everyone is sporting 100" plus screens.

I also don't expect any general public applications to come from shrimp eye's any time soon though to be honest

[DetroitSportsFan]

Originally Posted by blueblood

LOL, its funny how everyone here is filled with fear when a new technology emerges so you all have to put it down and make fun of it because of the almighty BD pride, LOL

Don't be bitter because people aren't seeing any merit in this ridiculous article you posted.

[benricci]

Originally Posted by detroitsportsfan

In this case, i don't think blu has much to worry about.

+1

[koontz1973]

Originally Posted by Blu Titan

OK I will put it in other words. I would also love to see warp technology become a popular way to travel. I would save a lot of time in getting to work everyday.

I will beat you with my personal transporter, complete with sound effects

As for this new type of DVD, you will probably not see this in any way.

Don't worry, be happy.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by blueblood

LOL, its funny how everyone here is filled with fear when a new technology emerges so you all have to put it down and make fun of it because of the almighty BD pride, LOL

It is not fear, it is the ability to recognize something stupid and badly researched articles.

Remember, bd technology emerged from sh it like this so maybe it will be a good thing for us all............

unless DVD and CD are what you mean by sh!t then it did not emerge from sh!t like this. The tech is exactly the same: laser beam bounces off reflective surface and OPU picks it back up after it bounces off the disk, if the light hits a pit then it does not bounce to the same place and that way the OPU differentiates between a 0 and a 1. Yes the depth changed from 1.2 to .6 to .1 mm and that meant less dispersion and yes the beam changed from IR to red to blue and the smaller wavelength meant tighter pits could be used, it is not magic.

Now bring us an article that discusses cheap diodes that emit UV or X-rays or Gamma rays, that won't deteriorate the disk (plastic) with use and that there is a cheap way to make the "reflective" data layer(especially for X-rays/gamma rays), and then it will be interesting and like BD (especially if it is not by some written by a retard that does not understand that you change something as fundamental as the laser then it is no more BD, CD or DVD)

[financially stable]

downloads become mainstream.........yeah sure